r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Apr 02 '23
Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions
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u/CanadianMoney92 Apr 06 '23
Does anyone have a guess as to what’s going on ? My pal was received by the RCMP at the end on January 2023 online, it states that its still being processed. RCMP has stated everything is good on their end and its being processed by the CFO. I have no criminal record or anything. A friend submitted his application first week of March 2023 and it was issued the first week of April.
I called the CFO office and spoke to someone, she couldn’t give me a reason for the delay and then stated that there’s a minimum 6 month wait for new PAL applications. This doesn’t line up with what my friends experience was or any of the other recent online application experiences I’ve read on here. Any idea what’s going on or what if any action I should take next ?
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u/_Connor Apr 06 '23 edited Apr 06 '23
Nothing is going on. Two months is just the start for mailed in applications. Wait can extend for 4 - 6 months plus and that's standard. There's no issue with your application or the process. I waited 5 months for my license and that was almost two years ago.
Did you friend submit his application online by any chance, because thats the difference if so. Seems like online applications are going through a different processing route than mailed in ones.
But in terms of mailed apps, there's nothing 'wrong' with yours. Your timeline is standard.
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u/Falken1010 Apr 06 '23 edited Apr 06 '23
No, the time RCMP commits to process is 45 days. Without checking boxes there is no excuse. Anyone that decides to simply accept anything beyond 45 days is being taken for a ride because they are too afraid to be deemed a naughty boy.
OP should email / call / have references call / MP / ombudsman / etc
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u/_Connor Apr 06 '23
No excuse according to who?
4-6 month processing time for mailed applications has been the standard for literal years.
There is nothing 'wrong' with his application.
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u/Falken1010 Apr 06 '23
Once again, there are people who get theirs in 30 days (recently and “literally years” back) and the “standard” stated by RCMP is 45 days. Do some people take months / years to get theirs? Yes. Is that reasonable? No. If it’s not reasonable it’s because there is no reason. If there is no reason then push to have it processed according to the standards.
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u/_Connor Apr 06 '23 edited Apr 06 '23
The people that are getting theirs in a month are people who are applying through the newly minted online service.
I have not heard of anyone applying through snail mail getting their license in a month.
You're also moving goalposts. No one here is arguing what is or isn't 'reasonable.' That's an entirely different discussion as to what a normal timeline is for a snail mailed application. It's normal in Canada to wait 18 months for a hip replacement. It probably isn't reasonable having to do so.
There's no reason to believe something is 'wrong' or 'up' because he hasn't gotten his snail mailed PAL after 30 days. That certainly is not the norm regardless of whether you think it's unreasonable.
There may be some random outliers out there like people who got restricted transfers approved in a few days (without calling in) compared to people who had already been waiting for 6+ months, but it's certainly not standard to get a mailed in application completed after a month.
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u/AZMB99 Apr 04 '23
Heads up guys (Ontario), according to the Ontario CFO (they replied to my email), there is a 6-month delay from the day your application is received.
- This is for the people who mailed their application, not sure about the online application.
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u/Falken1010 Apr 05 '23
And yet there are people in ON who’ve mailed their application and got approved in 31 days.
The reply you got is either generic or target toward you specifically. Either way seems like a “fuck off” situation. A lot of other people who email the ON CFO get approved a couple of days later (from recent reports both here and other forums).
Also waiting for mine, 42 days in, Online application.
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u/PartOfThePr0blem Apr 07 '23
I got that email response too a month in. Then got mine issued in 2.5 months.
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u/mad_bitcoin Apr 05 '23
Just got my PAL/RPAL in the mail. Submitted application online February 20th, marked received same day. References contacted via email, marked initial review complete February 22nd. Approved and mailed March 20th. Received in mail April 5th. I'm in BC so six weeks if you submit online👍
Shopping time🫡
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u/turkppc Apr 02 '23
How are new pal and gun owners going to the gun range right away? Dont you have to wait for your license to arrive to be able to go shoot it?
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u/LePapaPapSmear Apr 02 '23
Yes you need to wait until you have the physical card and the registration for restricted firearms before you could legally transport them
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u/throwaway1010202020 Apr 03 '23 edited Feb 05 '24
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u/nyg420 Apr 02 '23
In you guys' opinion, what's the best rifle chambered in 5.56 can you get in Canada?
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Apr 06 '23
Bren 2 or x95 for semi auto
Tikka T3x or any of the CZ 600 series rifles for bolt action
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u/Inevitable-Site-3249 Apr 04 '23
Can anyone offer some insight on this (I'm aware these timeliness are grossly inconsistent person to person)
I got my pal issued and had the please call if you don't see it in 2 weeks status (was approved in 31 days so rather fast) however it's now been over 2 weeks I called the help line and was given my pal number and the status was checked as still in queue for printing and hasn't shipped yet. How long did this process take for others?
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u/MBGLK Apr 04 '23
I keep calling to get an update on my PAL application, submitted February 20th online, it still says the status is successfully submitted, I just want to call and ask for an update but it keeps hanging up on me, so fucking frustrating, how do others get through to someone?
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u/fimakazmin Apr 04 '23 edited Apr 05 '23
Try emailing them. I got mine approved within an hour after I emailed my CFO
edit: Make sure you're checking the right spot for your application status too. It should be in the individual web services part of the RCMP site, not your MyCFP account.
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u/MBGLK Apr 05 '23
oh shit you're right I was checking the wrong thing this whole time. It says initial review completed, I'm in AB where would I email? I appreciate the help man
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u/fimakazmin Apr 05 '23
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/contact-a-chief-firearms-officer
Here's a list of contact info for all the provincial CFO offices. Happy to help!
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u/Machiavelliana Apr 05 '23
Which email did you use exactly?
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u/fimakazmin Apr 05 '23
Damn that sucks. For Ontario it should be CFOON@cfp-pcaf.ca Good luck dude
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u/TheSmallSlice Apr 02 '23
Anyone know any decent ranges for both shotgun and rifles in the gta and or greater gta that allow walk ins or that have reserve services? All the places in the surrounding cities near me are private clubs that ether aren't taking new members or the wait list is stupid long.
I really wanna buy my first firearm but I don't have immediate/weekend access to a decent spot to practice or bring friends and family out to. Any suggestions would be appreciated!
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u/canadianwrxwrb Apr 02 '23
Check Silverdale for membership. I applied early March and was approved the next day. They said they were done taking new members March 15th I believe but it's worth a call
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Apr 02 '23
As said above SGC allows walk ins but you need to make reservation in advance. I applied fir their membership in march and got approved. today was the orientation. They did mention that there are couple of spots available, so give them a call and find out
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u/moonmanpro92 Apr 02 '23
Looking for some advice?
Hey everyone, just taking a shot in the dark here but I'm a new PAL owner and just wondering which firearm I should buy. I'm torn between 4 options.
American Ranch Rifle 7.62x39mm 16.12″ FDE
Russian SKS Surplus W/ATI Stock 7.62x39mm 20″ FDE
Chiappa M1-9 NSR Carbine 9mm 19″ Black Non-Restricted
Federation Firearms SPM-12 Magazine-Fed Pump 12 Gauge 18.7″ Black
As of right now I'm just looking for a firearm I can take to the range for some fun inexpensive shooting. I'm probably going to look in to hunting in a couple of years. Any thoughts would be awesome.
Cheers!
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 02 '23
Also depends on the range, an indoor range probably prohibits steel core, bimetallic, any shotgun load other than slugs.
Chinese SKS, original stock.
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u/UltraMittens Apr 03 '23
Probably answered before but ive searched around and can't find an exact answer. I have a few rifles that were previously non restricted and are now prohibited under the new bill while only having my PAL. Do I need to register these guns? I know I'll need a transfer form to move residences but do they need to be registered first?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 05 '23
Yes, why wouldn't they? But they are surplus, so they aren't being made and what's available is available.
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u/Ok-Regret6767 Apr 06 '23
I just got my pal and am looking at a ruger pcc for my first gun.
Any suggestions for cheap but decent budget optics?
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u/RydNightwish Apr 06 '23
I would instead put that money initially into extra glock mags and use the conversion kit that ruger provides. Its a pcc so the irons will carry you while you learn the fundamentals.
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u/Mammoth_Attention_59 Apr 06 '23
To add on to the reply already given - if you have a non iron sight version ie Adjustable stock w/MLOK
Cabela’s has great Wednesday sales / occasional random sales. I’d look into them for any vortex RDS, or the Sig Romeo 5.
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u/Ok-Regret6767 Apr 06 '23
Is there any internal differences with the adjustable stock/mlok version? Or is it just a different handguard/stock?
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u/Mammoth_Attention_59 Apr 06 '23
Internals are all the same, just ergonomics. Imo if you’re looking to make it “tactical”, you save some money down the line by getting the adjustable stock/mlok versions Iver the standard carbine
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u/Ok-Regret6767 Apr 06 '23
Makes sense, as much as i like the tacticool look, im not sure theres much of a point in spending the money on it (factoring in a sight aswell).
Probably gonna get the regular version, iron sights are fun to me anyways.
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u/Neither-Process1275 Apr 06 '23
This question has probably been in here 1 million times but, there is nothing stopping me from putting a 10 round 5.56 pistol mag in my rifle correct? Do I need an R-PAL to do so?
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u/Mammoth_Attention_59 Apr 06 '23
Looking to start prepping for my black badge!
FIL gifted me a CR Speed belt, but now looking into a pistol holster and magazine holster
Anyone recommend any tips on what I should start my search?
Pistols I have are a CZ P-09 and P-10F. Any help is appreciated!!
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u/rlyx6x Apr 07 '23 edited Apr 07 '23
I went to the Calgary gun show today. That was my first gun show and it really was not a pleasant experience. Mainly older guys being absolute pricks. In no particular order:
I had a stamp and was re entering, but that didn’t stop some random guy from grabbing my shoulder and saying “back of the line asshole”
I was talking to a friend about how I wanted a .308 M1 Garand not a 30-06, and somebody felt the urge to butt in and call me an idiot for my opinion. And also had the urge to share his l opinion about historical accuracy
I wanted to take a picture to send to a friend, and the vendor threatened to have me removed for photographing his merch. Later on I saw him berating this poor kid with a DSLR.
And just overall condescension when talking to most of the vendors and asking questions. It felt like the old boys club, and those under 50 need not apply. Was I just unlucky with my run ins or is this normal for gun shows?
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u/chillyrabbit Apr 08 '23
People are assholes in general, you would run into the same at an amusement park line.
M1 Garands in .308/7.62x51 are entirely valid M1's as Italy kept them them around and even rechambered them as they were building BM59's.
You also can't take pictures at the gunshow without permission, it's been like that forever. Normally there is a constant PA announcement telling people that they can't take pictures without permission. Their gunshow, it's the vendors private property, therefore its their rules.
Overall yeah, I try to avoid interacting with the people and just go to buy oddball parts, or uncommon items. 90% of the time online shopping is just plain better for most things.
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u/Jayou540 Apr 02 '23 edited Apr 02 '23
Anyone know if the Heckler & Koch USC Semi-Auto Carbine, 16.50" Barrel, 45 ACP is a solid firearm? Any chance the stock could be swapped?*never mind it’s restricted 😓
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Apr 02 '23
Anyone have a muzzle break on their bolt action rifles? Is it worth it? Pros and cons
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u/jons420 Apr 02 '23
I have an mrx bison 5.56 that came sith a muzzle break. Didn't necessarily need it as there isn't much recoil anyways. Makes it pretty loud, but I imagine it would be beneficial on a larger calibre
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 03 '23
Have you tried turning it the other direction? Don't force it though, but it may have been broken from new.
Also, at what distance?
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u/liarsusestatistics Apr 03 '23
Looking for Beretta 92S grips, and haven't had much luck finding something this side of the border. Came across a company form the states, Lok Grips, that seems to have some great quality options. They do ship internationally but wondering whether even grips would get stopped by customs and take months to get to me, just because it's gun-related.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 03 '23
Probability is high that CBSA will allow it through even though they have written their own laws for AR parts.
And some Canadian stores stock Lok grips.
Have you looked at Hogue?
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u/Jxh57601206 Apr 03 '23
Anyone know where to sell my non restricted hunting rifle?
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u/l_st_er Apr 03 '23 edited Apr 17 '23
Most gun stores act on consignment so they won’t give you the money until it sells. They also take a cut as expected. Your* best option is to go stage some nice photos in your house with decent lighting and put it on GunPost.
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u/TheAlphaCarb0n on Apr 03 '23
Dumb Q - I can bring more than one gun to a range, right?
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u/SpudsnGuns Apr 03 '23
Perfectly fine unless otherwise stated by your particular range. Make sure you have all your paper work if bringing restricted firearms.
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u/tomasz_db Apr 03 '23
I'm going for my CFSC/CFRSC course later this month so apologies if this is a dumb question, but when storing non-restricted rifles, am I able to keep them in a locked case in my closet or would I need the closet to be able to lock as well?
(asking because Safes are expensive and I'm not sure if I should invest in one of those first before buying a gun) I live alone.
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u/RydNightwish Apr 03 '23
Canadian tire has cheap safes for just over 100 when on sale. They meet the legal requirements and you can fit two 10 gun (really 8) side by side in most closets.
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u/ddawgmvp Apr 03 '23
non restricted dont have to be in a safe, but if not secured that way, they need to be trigger locked/disabled. There are gun cabinets at reasonable prices out there.
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u/Glass_Arrival_ Apr 03 '23
Hi all my application was received on November 3rd in CC charged and everything and says under review, should I expect an answer soon ? I’m located in Quebec
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Apr 03 '23
Suggestions for a new rifle (price range $500 to $3000)
Hello all
I am thinking of getting a new rifle, preferably a semi, and want to get some suggestions from this great community we have here. It's doesn't really matter what caliber it is chambered in, but I was thinking of something that is a very common one like: 7.62x39, 5.56/.223, and .308/7.62x51. But if anyone can think of a semi in some other very common round, then by all means suggest it.
I look forward to the suggestions.
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u/RydNightwish Apr 03 '23
SKS is always solid choice for a reliable starting rifle. Ammo is very common and its really not a significant amount of extra effort to mix some dawn and boiling water to neutralize any corrosives from surplus.
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u/Empire_On_Decline Apr 03 '23
I agree. My first purchase was a real nice Russian SKS. I feel like it's the Canadian way. Everyone needs a SKS.
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Apr 03 '23
I've been asking the same question for awhile now. After seeing what the community had to say and doing some research, for under 3 grand. Seems the best reliable rifles people keep telling me are the Sterling Arms R18 if you want a solid reliable AR style rifle. And if you want something different, many people suggest the IWI tavor x95. Thats the one I decided on, the X95. Just my opinion though. Lots of options out there.
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Apr 03 '23
Ok so online vs mail application is totally different, my friend who’s applied through mail November just got his I who I applied less than a month ago getting my licence in the mail anytime in the next 2 weeks .
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Apr 04 '23
Why is it that used firearms are cheaper brand new than on gun post even without attachments, and why do people think it’s worth more used than new?
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u/afookenleaf Apr 04 '23
On gunpost you don't pay taxes, also sellers will set their prices higher since people will haggle.
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Apr 04 '23
have you accounted for taxes?
also buying privately avoids being "registered" in a store, just that you get a transfer number for a private purchase.
or just stupidity, either from seller not knowing, or knowing some buyer won't know
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Apr 04 '23
Will a gsg15 drum mag fit in a issc mk22
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u/AZMB99 Apr 04 '23
I’m 98% sure they’re the exact same rifle (other than the stock), and the drum mag should fit.
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u/SmoothMoose247 Apr 04 '23
Bit of an odd/newbie question:
My PAL is expiring in December. Recently completed the course for my RPAL. If I submit the application for the RPAL, will I still need to renew in December? My biggest concern is I don't want to submit the RPAL and have my PAL lapse while I'm waiting.
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u/AlbinoSankey Apr 05 '23
Is it legal to put a tube extension on a semi auto shotgun that has 4 rounds max?
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u/Scopequest Apr 06 '23
As long as no one can get 6 of the largest shells it's rated for in the mag it's legal (or easily modify it to allow that, like by removing a plug).
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u/Neither-Process1275 Apr 06 '23
I’d contact the Canadian firearms program or the RCMP information line.
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u/Super_Watercress4641 Apr 06 '23
So I recently just learned that a family member living at my residence is being charged with a domestic crime. Not exactly sure where this leaves me, or if it puts my rights in any jeopardy. We live at the same address but a separate house, no one has access to my safe. Curious if anyone has any insight or advice? so I can prepare if necessary and plan accordingly.
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u/phantomnolife Apr 06 '23
Does anyone know if it is possible to change the information after summiting the pal application to the RCMP during the review stage? My photo guarantor decide to not want to help me.
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u/RydNightwish Apr 06 '23
Contact them in the morning and let them know the situation. They will instruct you from there. I suspect that they pause your application and give you some time to find a new one before just turning it away.
Then inform your former guarantor that they need to lose your contact info. While also cursing them to be attacked by spider monkeys on a regular basis for the rest of thier days.
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u/phantomnolife Apr 07 '23
Edit: I called the RCMP this afternoon, and they changed it for me after verifying my information. The only way to change data after summited is by calling them.
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u/NuffinSaid Apr 07 '23
Is it true Canadian semi auto handguns don't require manual safety's, but in the US they do? Are there some examples of semis we have without a manual safety but on US versions they have one on?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 07 '23
My Walther GSP has no safety but the US version does. It's a competition target pistol. I believe my wife's Hämmerli is the same.
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u/sinep_snatas Apr 07 '23
Newby question about the gun ban.
I was at the gun store the other day looking at various rifles and checked out this gun that was chambered in 9mm and looked like an 'assault rifle' (whatever that is). It had a synthetic stock, aluminum hard guard / rail thingy, box style magazine, etc. The guy told me that "AR pattern" guns had been banned, but not this one.
Presumably (and I might be getting this wrong), the feds banned the AR style guns because they look like an assault rifle... which seems insane... to ban a look, and it's more easy to commit crime... ?
The question that I have is; in terms of committing crime, the gun I held can shoot just as fast as any other semi-auto (as fast as you can pull the trigger). It does just as good a job at committing crime as any other semi-automatic gun. This all seems stupid to me, but I would like to hear their rational. Why did they do this? It seems like some semi-automatic rifles were banned that use the same cartridge and operate identically to ones that haven't been banned. How do they justify this? I know this will bring out the "ahh, because they're idiots" responses, but I'm really interested in knowing if there's a logical explanation for all of this. What am I missing?
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u/Neontiger456 Apr 08 '23 edited Apr 08 '23
Simple, they're using the general public's ignorance to ban guns piece by piece. First fully automatic guns were banned, that didn't stop shootings. Now they banned "scary" looking guns (there's no such thing as an "assault" rifle btw), and this too won't stop shootings. Then they banned handguns, still won't stop shootings. So obviously the next step is to ban most semi automatic guns (bill c-21) and that too will not stop shootings. Eventually they will come for every gun and that too will not stop shootings because criminals will always find a way. However we'll all be left defenseless, unarmed, and at the mercy of the government. So unless something changes it ain't looking pretty.
In an ideal world the government would admit that there is no way to stop all shootings and that millions of legal gun owners shouldn't be punished for the actions of a few criminals, but I'm not holding my hopes up for that.
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u/Perfect-Emphasis-211 Apr 08 '23
If you can get a legitimate answer to this question from the Canadian government you will be 1 step closer than anyone else in our society.
They essentially say these “assault rifles” are designed for and used by mass killers. Only criminals need these firearms, they have no other practical farm use, if they ban legal guns then the illegal guns will magically disappear.
Every argument is counterintuitive or misleading, and those who are in charge of the list used questionable sources (like this Reddit page presumably) to create the ban list, up to and including a brand of BRCC coffee because the individual must have thought it was a firearm.
Another specifically mentioned firearm is the buttmaster, a one of a kind firearm made as a joke and would have been prohibited just by its characteristics.
Long story short, it’s all making as many political gains out of tragedy’s as they can.
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u/sinep_snatas Apr 08 '23
I think the 'they're doing it for political gain' theory makes more sense than 'they're trying to stop us from rebelling' one. But who knows.
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u/Jayou540 Apr 08 '23
I think you have imo. I hate it when people imply that their gun collection gives them a fighting chance against government tyranny. Reminds me of what stupid cornfed Americans say.. I can see it leaking into Canadian gun culture and it’s cringe. Like no jellyroll even if you were in military shape that modded out Bren isn’t gonna stand a chance against anything.. I immediately think a person like this is a threat to their community and police. Like Who would be enforcing the laws of your tyrannical government?! Think about it. (Not calling you jelly roll just the cringy gravy seals I see talking like you)
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u/Falken1010 Apr 08 '23 edited Apr 08 '23
Easy - end goal is to ban all guns ASAP. Quickest way is to kill off the platform that is most versatile / numerous. When they ban the AR platform the are banning a whole host of weapons with different capabilities. The AR platform also has by far the most options when it comes to accessories, so they reduce the options greatly there as well.
Again, it’s a matter of speed rather than anything else. They can’t just ban “Guns” outright, so they ban some of the guns every couple of years until there is nothing left.
Right now they can’t buyback all the guns they banned, but it people aren’t allowed to buy more guns then the number of guns also can only go down.
Even if there are guns available but they are all shit quality - which is a line we are close to approaching and crossing. Banning AR rifles was a quick way to get us close to that line too.
Personally, if the SemiAuto ban had gone through, I may not even bother with firearms. It just becomes a liability when you’re limited to using some old-ass lever / brake action museum piece. If I am going to have a firearm it’s gotta be something of quality, reliable, capable and reasonably up to date technologically. There wouldn’t be much of anything left in this sense if the ban had gone through. I mean, anything that is not a semi-auto is outdated, more so for some types of guns rather than others but substantially disadvantaged regardless.
People criticizing the fact they left out “just as/more” capable guns out are missing the point, which in the words of the libs would be: “Don’t worry, we will get to those soon. Sit tight”
Most of Canada seems to support this and goal as they also want to entrust the government with absolutely everything and believe citizens shouldn’t have guns, so unless something changes soon for some odd reason, they’ll get what they want probably within a short period of 5-10 years.
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u/AZMB99 Apr 04 '23
Question regarding contacting an MP or an MPP:
I want to contact an MPP or an MP regarding my PAL application (it’s taking way too long), but I’ve never done it before.
What exactly do you ask them? Do I just provide them with my PAL application details and they’ll do the rest?
If you were me, would you contact your MPP or MP?
Is an email sufficient or do I need to visit their office?
Thank you!
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u/AZMB99 Apr 05 '23
What should I do to get my PAL quicker?
It’s been months since my application was received, CC charged.
Some people suggested emailing the CFO (Ontario), I did, and I was told to expect to wait 6 months! Would calling them every other week help? Or should I contact my liberal MP (probably won’t answer my email) or maybe try contacting the ombudsman? If you’ve tried any of the above, what was your experience like?
Thank you!
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u/CanadianMoney92 Apr 06 '23
I’m in the same boat. Spoke with CFO on the phone and they were super unhelpful. She claimed there was a minimum 6 month wait for new apps. Had a buddy submit online First week of March and approved first week of April.
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u/Inevitable-Site-3249 Apr 06 '23
Pal has landed in the mail! Received application Feb 17th, issued march 21st, arrived today (April 6th). In Ontario.
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u/Machiavelliana Apr 07 '23
You're saying all this happened in 2023? Or did they receive your application in Feb 2022?
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u/DJ_Necrophilia Apr 02 '23
Does a handgun optics mount exist where the mount utilizes the rear sight dovetail?
I was planning to get my hi power milled, but wanted to find a spare slide to do it to and those are tricky to find/expensive as hell
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u/janoypilled Apr 02 '23
Will Type 97s be coming back in stock? Seems like they're sold out everywhere.
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u/CanadianBushWookie Apr 05 '23
I’m going down to the states for Easter this weekend and given the ammo prices up here and all round lack of ammo I’m thinking of bringing some back up. From what I can find online the explosives act allows you to bring 5,000 rounds for personal use, obviously this cannot be restricted ammo. Just wondering if anyone has done this before and how it was at the border? I’m travelling with 1 other person and don’t want to hold them up for 4 hours, thanks.
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u/zulu_tango73 Apr 05 '23
I don't think it's an issue at OUR border. There may be issues with the purchase, possession, and export of ammo in the US as a non-resident alien.
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u/Healthy-Cow-4703 Apr 05 '23
As a Canadian citizen they cannot legally sell you ammo. Not sure how it works in a dual-citizenship situation.
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u/ggdrguy Apr 06 '23
Is that true? Or maybe new? I went down to the states 10ish years ago and went to a gun range to rent some guns and they told us it would be cheaper to buy ammo from Walmart than from them so we did without issue. No id or anything. Maybe they just don’t check?
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u/PissSoakedchaps Apr 08 '23
Are you allowed to shoot guns in shanick ontario area?
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Apr 02 '23
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u/LePapaPapSmear Apr 02 '23
No. Firearms can not be purchased and used for the sole purpose of defense of self or property.
Your friend would very likely go to prison for a non insignificant time if ever used and it was uncovered that it was purchased with the intent to use it defensively
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u/ForwardPlant2528 Apr 04 '23
Hi there, newbie here. I have a quick question about buying/shipping in prop guns from out of the country. If anyone plays Valorant here, they may have seen the prop guns that some streamers bought and I was wondering about the laws around getting them into the country as Id like to buy as well. I come here as I believe they are subject to the same laws as real firearms so I thought id ask here for insight. Thanks for all the help!
Edit: They don't shoot, they are 3d modeled designs based on skins from the game, and they have LED lighting.
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u/Machiavelliana Apr 03 '23
Quick question.
Best value for bulk ammo?
Online stores? Recommendations?
Gun shows?
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u/1that-guy Apr 03 '23
Sighting a rifle in. What’s the best distance? I have always been told 100 meters. A buddy said 200 meters because that’s when the bullet reaches its ‘highest point’ during its trajectory. I have never heard this before as a reason to sight in at 200 meters. Reference I have a browning ab3 in .308.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 03 '23
The distance you are going to shoot it.
If you are out hunting what do you feel an ethical distance would be? In Ontario forests you won't get a 200 yard clean shot.
If you are target shooting, the target distance.
200m peak to the parabola is a gross oversimplification, it could be 2000m at the right barrel elevation.
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Apr 06 '23
The "highest point" thing doesn't make any sense. Bullets drop. They don't rise. There are a few other reasons one might do this, but his reasoning isn't based on knowledge of firearms or how his gun works
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u/jicajijipi Apr 03 '23
Anyone know where I could shoot military surplus ammo in Quebec or Ontario near the border ? Can't find range that accept ammo with steel core
Used to go to the ruisseau noir range but they changed there politic I got like 200 bullets of sks and mosin nagan sitting in my gun safe
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u/NoClueInvestor1 Apr 03 '23
Hey guys, recommendations for Newbie with PAL ( restricted and non restricted) Any suggestion for a firearm that can do that, ideally that wont break my bank 1) Target practice in the range ( if i can get into one) 2) Target practice outdoor 3) small game hunting
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Apr 03 '23
Get a .22 of your choice (semi auto is more fun), check small game regulations for your area as some are only rimfire
I was personally thinking about getting a gsg-16
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u/Zzz_sleepy6 Apr 03 '23
Hey just wondering if there are many semi auto 308s just got my pal and looking for a versatile range gun.
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u/catsaredangneat Apr 03 '23
Newish to firearms. I got a red dot for my birthday this year for a t97 rifle. Works great, but I want to add a magnifier. This specific red dot doesn't have a matching magnifier. For context, I'm using a Romero 5 red dot.
Are most magnifiers universal or do they really only line up with specific red dot sights.
Also, recommendations for magnifiers?
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Apr 03 '23
Noob question! I'm new to firearms, I know this is going to be a dumb question but..
Looking at buying a X95 Tavor and had a quick question regarding the caliber.
I see X95's in 223, 223/556. I'm looking to shoot 556, I know 223/556 are the same for the most part. But I heard you can safely shoot 223 ammo in a rifle chambered in 556, but not the other way around in shooting 556 in a 223 chambered rifle? Does it matter? I heard people say it should be fine. Something about X95 is different when it comes to that? I just want to confirm before I drop the amount it costs for a Tavor.
Thanks
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u/RydNightwish Apr 03 '23
Easiest way to tell is to make sure the barrel or the gun has 5.56 on it. That means it was built and tested for the higher pressures that a 5.56 creates. As long as the barrel is 5.56 rated you can safely shoot both rounds.
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u/zencraft Apr 03 '23
Any recommendations for a skeet shooting club relatively close to the GTA? Looking to try out the sport.
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u/Jxh57601206 Apr 04 '23
gsg 9 22lr with collapseble stock?
I've seen the 16in with collapseble stock, or a 9in with ar15 style buffer tube stock, but not a 9in with collapseble (basically mp5 clone).
Is there a version with 9in and collapseble stock? or can I remove the ar15 style stock on the gig 9? Or does that make it restricted/prohibited??
Thanks.
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u/AZMB99 Apr 04 '23 edited Apr 04 '23
Yes, it won’t satisfy the minimum length requirement for a non-restricted firearm if you have a 9 inch barrel with a collapsible stock.
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u/deletekeemstar Apr 04 '23 edited Apr 04 '23
What should I buy first?
A) Ruger PC carbine
B) Chinese SKS and a Savage axis 2 (308)
Main uses: prepping and target shooting. I currently own a 12ga Mossberg 500 and a Savage a22.
Pros of A: I can shoot it at ranges closer to where I live (they don't allow centerfire rifles).
Pros of B: More versatile. I can get an SKS before prices go up even more.
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u/RydNightwish Apr 04 '23
Might as well buy an SKS new if you get one. Not doing yourself any favors going second hand when a new one doesnt cost a whole lot more.
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Apr 05 '23
What distance are you shooting? If it's under 500 meters, consider getting a rifle chambered in .223 instead. You'll save money and have just as fun of an experience. I have a .223 savage for target shooting, I only bring out my .308 on hunts or past 500m shooting distances
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Apr 04 '23
just got my licence and my friend selling me his Russian SKS with ati tactical stock and wood I trust this guy and he say’s everything good condition and is offering for 800$ is that a good price ?
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u/RydNightwish Apr 04 '23
Not really. Brand new SKS in an ati stock costs 770. Second hand I wouldnt pay more than 650-675 at mates rates. He might not be out to shaft you but its probable that what I call good conditon and what he does are 2 very different benchmarks.
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u/cyborg998466 Apr 05 '23
Any websites other than gunpost that achieves the same result of buying and selling firearms in Canada
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u/Jayou540 Apr 05 '23
What are the overall top 3 cheapest calibres for Lever action rifles?
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u/cyborg998466 Apr 05 '23
Should I get both Russian and Chinese SKS rifles?
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Apr 06 '23
They make fantastic deer rifles or just fun range funs. They're only getting more expensive and both are great
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Apr 05 '23
Looking for recommendations on a lightweight 7 RemMag/7mm PRC "mountain" rifle. Hoping to keep the rifle, rings, scope well under 8.5 lbs. The light the better.
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u/cyborg998466 Apr 05 '23
I'm paranoid of buying from a private seller. What things should I keep in mind so I don't fuck up or get fucked up. What public places can I suggest to meet at other than the owner's house. Police station?
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Apr 07 '23
Public parking lots. Mcdonalds works. Just try to be relatively discreet. Don't be announcing your presence to the entire parking lot.
Other than that, most people on gunpost and the like are honest. The gunpost review system does a good job of keeping in person scammers away. At least that's been my experience.
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u/Free-Math-7440 Apr 06 '23
Gun people are honest I wouldn’t be too concerned
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u/chillyrabbit Apr 06 '23
And if the person is someone who takes google pictures of guns to steal money and PAL ID's? I get it, people are usually nice but sometimes people are assholes.
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u/SlipperyBridge Apr 06 '23
Awaiting my PAL to arrive in the mail and i have 2 choices on first shotgun. Maverick 88 Security or the Canuck Enforcer as i want the shorter barrel length and for the price these seem right. Im looking for pros and cons of both from people who have owned either or. Also the reason for lower priced shotguns is im also planning on getting a 22lr pretty much sametime and later down the line i plan on getting a more expensive rifle.
Cheers
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u/PartOfThePr0blem Apr 06 '23
Timeline - ON Course - Dec 3 Online submission - Jan 4 Card charged - Jan 6 Card issued - Mar 20 Card recieved - Apr 6
Calling didn't do much for me. Emailing did the trick.
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u/Teezy902 Apr 07 '23
Trying to get RPAL got an email that reads
"Please be advised we are offering a restricted firearms course on April 28th (630 pm to 9 30 pm) and April 29th (8 am to 4 pm), however with the current Federal Regulations in place with respect to restricted firearms, to our knowledge the only people who may get their Restricted Firearms License approved are people who show proof that they will require their restricted firearms licenses for employment purposes."
Is this true ?
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u/IWIKapps Apr 07 '23
So a guy has a Beretta 92S. Picks up some Pro Mag 96 mags that work perfectly in it and hold >10 9mm rounds. Even prints off the RCMP pages saying it's fine. A guys only concern is they mags are not marked at all. No part number, no 40 S&W, nothing. Is there any other precautions that could be taken?
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u/PartOfThePr0blem Apr 07 '23
How low in price does the Ruger 10/22 get? I see it going for $460 and wondering if that's a good sale price.
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u/SlipperyBridge Apr 07 '23
All depends on what version. Right now cabelas has the basic wood stock version on-sale for $430
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u/Dawnsenph85 Apr 08 '23
Just picked up a GHM9 (restricted) after a long wait. Any recommendation on optics?
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u/Jayou540 Apr 08 '23
cz512 vs the derya tm22? What is more reliable or has a better overall track record?
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u/cyborg998466 Apr 08 '23
What historical (pre 1990) Soviet/Chinese or US/Canada rifles can be purchased in Canada and be good hunting rifles (mainly for deer, elk, or black bears)?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 08 '23
SKS is an excellent deer gun.
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Apr 08 '23
Total newb question: what do you all recommend for ear protection?
I just got my membership accepted at a local range and can finally start shooting! I’m looking to get 2x pairs (one for me, one for guests).
I see Canadian Tire sells some for $20 to $40. Are those ok for beginners? I don’t want to break the bank dropping $150 x2 for some amazing noise-cancelling ones. I also want to protect my hearing properly.
EDIT: if relevant, I’ll be shooting .22 rimfire, 30-30, and 12 gauge to start.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Apr 08 '23
Start with foam ear plugs and a YouTube instruction video.
I bought my 3M hearing protection a Cantire when they were on sale. A few Cantire products are just fine.
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u/cowontag11 Apr 08 '23
Hearing loss is cumulative - being new or a beginner you should spend buying the best equipment you feel your health is worth, verses upgrading at a later date - buy once, cry once. The cheaper solution and one I'd always do irrespective of the ear pro I owned if shooting indoors is doubling up. Personally I don't like the sensory loss of doubling up outdoors so I own modified Sordins.
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u/aristo2jzgte Apr 02 '23
I'm going to go to my first gun show next month is it acceptable to haggle on prices at them