r/canadaguns Apr 02 '23

Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions

This thread will be used for the "new"-type questions, PAL/RPAL applications, references, CFSC/CFRSC requirements, storage/transport, or other general "new-to-me" firearms ownership questions.

In response to this thread, the community was quite positive for a thread to cover these subjects.

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u/sinep_snatas Apr 07 '23

Newby question about the gun ban.

I was at the gun store the other day looking at various rifles and checked out this gun that was chambered in 9mm and looked like an 'assault rifle' (whatever that is). It had a synthetic stock, aluminum hard guard / rail thingy, box style magazine, etc. The guy told me that "AR pattern" guns had been banned, but not this one.

Presumably (and I might be getting this wrong), the feds banned the AR style guns because they look like an assault rifle... which seems insane... to ban a look, and it's more easy to commit crime... ?

The question that I have is; in terms of committing crime, the gun I held can shoot just as fast as any other semi-auto (as fast as you can pull the trigger). It does just as good a job at committing crime as any other semi-automatic gun. This all seems stupid to me, but I would like to hear their rational. Why did they do this? It seems like some semi-automatic rifles were banned that use the same cartridge and operate identically to ones that haven't been banned. How do they justify this? I know this will bring out the "ahh, because they're idiots" responses, but I'm really interested in knowing if there's a logical explanation for all of this. What am I missing?

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u/Falken1010 Apr 08 '23 edited Apr 08 '23

Easy - end goal is to ban all guns ASAP. Quickest way is to kill off the platform that is most versatile / numerous. When they ban the AR platform the are banning a whole host of weapons with different capabilities. The AR platform also has by far the most options when it comes to accessories, so they reduce the options greatly there as well.

Again, it’s a matter of speed rather than anything else. They can’t just ban “Guns” outright, so they ban some of the guns every couple of years until there is nothing left.

Right now they can’t buyback all the guns they banned, but it people aren’t allowed to buy more guns then the number of guns also can only go down.

Even if there are guns available but they are all shit quality - which is a line we are close to approaching and crossing. Banning AR rifles was a quick way to get us close to that line too.

Personally, if the SemiAuto ban had gone through, I may not even bother with firearms. It just becomes a liability when you’re limited to using some old-ass lever / brake action museum piece. If I am going to have a firearm it’s gotta be something of quality, reliable, capable and reasonably up to date technologically. There wouldn’t be much of anything left in this sense if the ban had gone through. I mean, anything that is not a semi-auto is outdated, more so for some types of guns rather than others but substantially disadvantaged regardless.

People criticizing the fact they left out “just as/more” capable guns out are missing the point, which in the words of the libs would be: “Don’t worry, we will get to those soon. Sit tight”

Most of Canada seems to support this and goal as they also want to entrust the government with absolutely everything and believe citizens shouldn’t have guns, so unless something changes soon for some odd reason, they’ll get what they want probably within a short period of 5-10 years.