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Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 10 '22
How to contact your CFO:
With the main number all backed up I thought I would give this a bump.
1-800-731-4000
NB 6000.
AB 9026.
ONT 7503.
BC 9530.
Man 8004.
Q 7005.
NS 6505.
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u/H0NOUr Oct 14 '22
Finally got mine! yessssss
Alberta Aplication
- Application received July 11
- Credit card charged Sept 21
- Card Received Oct 14
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u/TheSunshineVampire Oct 12 '22
FINAL UPDATE
NB Resident PAL -> RPAL upgrade
July 16, 2022 Took RPAL course (in NS)
July 18, 2022 sent application to RCMP processing center in Miramichi, NB (tracking #)
July 19, 2022 RCMP processing center got the application
Sept 26, 2022 RCMP website shows my application has passed the initial review (CC also charged). This was the 1st update the website showed.
Oct 5, 2022 RCMP website shows my application was approved, card should arrive in 2 weeks.
*Oct 6, 2022 I use my existing PAL # to purchase handgun online*
Oct 11, 2022 My new RPAL card arrives in the mail.
Total time from RCMP center receiving my application to card at my door was 12 weeks or 3 months.
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u/TheSunshineVampire Oct 12 '22
Just received 2 x Mec-Gar magazines from Firearms Outlet Canada, good communication, fast shipping. Got em at my door 5 days after my online order.
Now I just have to wait for my Jericho 941 transfer from TheAmmoSource (SFRC) to be completed and shipped.
Can't wait, will be my 1st and likely only handgun.
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u/chief_robb Oct 15 '22
Upgrade to RPAL Update:
Received at RCMP - Aug 7
CC charge and online - Oct 7
Approved - Oct 14
Alberta.
Placed and order last night. So glad I made it in time.
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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 15 '22
Nice! What were you able to get? I just made it in two weeks ago and scored two CZs (*as long as the transfers are truly grandfathered in), a P-09 and a P-10 F.
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u/chief_robb Oct 15 '22
CZ 75 Omega & M&P 9 2.0
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Oct 15 '22
Wow! One week for the Alberta CFO. That is amazing. She said she was spending money to fix the delays. I guess that is about as good as she can do. The 2 month time for the CC charge is at the CFP in New Brunswick; out of the control of the provincial CFO.
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u/chief_robb Oct 15 '22
Yep. I was shocked at the 7 day turnaround. We’re lucky to have her here.
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u/MLI691H Oct 11 '22 edited Oct 11 '22
Just got my RPAL number from CFP this morning, today is hand gun shopping day!
Sincere apologies to my wallet, but Trudeau made me do it.
Edit: Picked up a CZ-P10F yesterday, called in this morning and updated my RPAL.
Picked up a Ruger Security Six on Friday, calling the store in BC to give them my RPAL today when they open.
Now just need to decide what I want to get for a double action pistol:
surplus Beretta 92s in very good condition, or
surplus CZ 75 in fair condition.
Or even the Tanfoglio Mossad.
Edit2: Decided on/bought the CZ 75 B surplus.
Going to try and pick up a 22LR pistol, we’ll see.
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u/motomagnus25 Oct 11 '22
Hey, I also bought a p10f as a first purchase with only my number. I am trying to get my hands on another 9mm but the buisness is telling me they are getting an error message and might have to call it in? What do you mean you called in to update RPAL? Is there something I need to do after first purchase as well?
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u/MLI691H Oct 11 '22
I didn’t have my RPAL # when I ordered yesterday, I just put in a place holder.
I called CFP this morning and got my license #, then called the store to update the RPAL #, and they will process it today.
If the store is getting an error on the portal then they will have to call into CFP. Hopefully portal is up and running without issues today.
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u/motomagnus25 Oct 11 '22
Awesome man thanks I appreciate it! Yes hopefully it is.. but knowing OUR government they’re probably having issues, I wouldn’t doubt there’s a lot of transfers being initiated right now lol Good luck on your shopping spree!
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u/MLI691H Oct 11 '22
You too! Just 1 more 9mm double-action pistol, but having a hard time deciding. If I didn’t already ordered a CZ P10-F then the CZ 75 would have been an easy choice. I want something else but CZ 75 is hard to pass up.
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Oct 09 '22
Just found out my RPAL has been approved and mailed. This may be a silly question, but is it possible to start the process of buying a handgun without the physical card in hand? If I was lucky enough to get through the CFO phone line queue and get my RPAL license number?
Normally I’d wait and be patient. But who knows how much longer we’ll have. Thanks all!
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Oct 09 '22
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Oct 09 '22
Thanks for your response! I’ve had quite a lot of difficulty getting through the phone lines, but will give it a shot early Tuesday morning.
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u/jx84 Oct 09 '22
Yes you can. I did this with my first purchase. Lots of stores just need the number. And I believe you can get the number by logging into the RCMP individual web services site.
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Oct 09 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
I got my RPAL recently. Is there still anyway I could buy a handgun in time?
I'd really appreciate if you could share some leads on sellers. Thanks in advance.
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Oct 10 '22
Maybe. Buy it now! As long as the shop puts in the transfer request right away, you will probably be ok.
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Oct 10 '22 edited Oct 19 '22
Oh I have! Thank you.
But from a store that doesn't garner much confidence here or CGN.. I hope they are legit..
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Oct 10 '22
Ask them for the transfer reference number. If they have a transfer reference number, then you should be good.
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Oct 10 '22
Thanks again! I wouldn't have otherwise known to ask for this. I'm so grateful for this community. :-)
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u/W01F360 qb Oct 09 '22
Most reputable gun shops have the ability to start transfers online, except for consignment sales i think they might still need to call in as it is technically private to private sale.
They can typically have transfer entered within 1 business day, so I would suggest buying online if you only have your PAL number.
So far everything indicates that once a transfer is started, they should honor it.
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Oct 10 '22
Thank you! I have the card too but online still seems like the only option.
One more question.. Do I need to become a member of a gun range/club before I buy online?
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u/_Connor Oct 10 '22
Do I need to become a member of a gun range/club before I buy online?
No. Ontario doesn't require it. If you're really worried about it, just write 'looking' in the box.
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u/W01F360 qb Oct 10 '22
I would check into regulations based on your province.
Where I'm from you need to pass a special course before you can even become range member. Good luck!
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u/investor-369 Oct 10 '22
CGN Ontario Restricted Transfer
https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/u/0/d/1zIoOPwS9cTHbG6eAD8_QXgkdaFnx7oKc2hhdN-8IZRg/htmlview#
I've noticed they stop doing transfer from Oct 6, any idea why? Thanksgiving weekend? Dont tell me they stop doing transfer after that.
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u/iloveneuro Oct 10 '22
Oct 6 is just last Thursday. Almost definitely because of thanksgiving weekend. The spreadsheet is updated when people post so it’s not live.
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u/sticksnstones456 Oct 11 '22
Anyone else here have issues when calling cfo office and they hang up or it says the call failed after being on hold for 20 mins? Ontario
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 11 '22
Everyone who has tried to call since May.
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u/raptors200 Oct 13 '22
Does the chief firearms officer call you, if you put yes to the personal history question?
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u/MLI691H Oct 13 '22
I am posting this as a record. Just got my RPAL, bought 5 hand guns over the past week. I bet this will trigger a flag! Waiting for CFP or CFO to call and ask why. I will be frank and tell them I am a Costco shopper and I follow “buy now think later” rule.
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u/iloveneuro Oct 13 '22
Ya probably not. They know what’s going on right now. It’s buy not or not at all.
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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 14 '22
You’re probably OK as this is definitely not unique behaviour given the circumstances.
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u/GinnAdvent Oct 14 '22
You will probably be fine. My buddy bought 30 handguns in 2 months and he hasn't got any call yet.
If you got a call, it won't make a difference since its assume they are in a safe or cabinet plus trigger lock combo.
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Oct 14 '22
Having just gotten my RPAL, I've ordered a used surplus Beretta 92S for which transfer has been initiated (Ontario).
If this might very well be our last ever chance to buy handguns, I'm considering buying a second handgun just in case the Beretta turns out to be a dud of some sort. This might be a dumb and ignorant fear..
Question 1) Is that even remotely likely?
I also read that the sights are bad in Beretta 92S.
So I'm considering buying a new Norinco NP17 or NP22.
Question 2) Would you say these Norinco clones will be inferior in every way to the Beretta or is there any weight in getting them as a backup?
Thank you for reading this. I'll appreciate your comments even if they don't answer my questions. :-) Guns are fun to even just talk about! :-)
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u/MLI691H Oct 14 '22 edited Oct 14 '22
I bought a surplus Beretta 92s this week. But I’ve also bought a few other guns. Beretta is just something I wanted to have in the collection.
Norinco NP22 is a clone of P226, parts can be replaced with P226 parts.
Do you need 2 Double action hammer fire firearms? Perhaps diversify? Spend a bit more and grab a CZ P-10F.
Check the sticky post on the other subreddit for deals. Also, Check CGN hand gun discussion section on where to find hand guns to buy.
Edit, by the way, congrats on your purchase!
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Oct 14 '22
I'd also followed your lead with the Beretta. I don't think I would have found them without a markup without your help. Thank you!
And Congrats to you too on your purchases! Would you mind sharing their names?
CZ P-10F is a solid recommendation. Although, as far as handguns go, I'm for whatever reason completely sold on double action hammer fires. I don't think I'd like them any other way :P But yes, perhaps they are a bit redundant. Will do, Thanks.
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u/MLI691H Oct 14 '22 edited Oct 14 '22
Nice! I had a list of stores and went through them daily, LOL.
I bought: P-10F, Ruger, Security Six stainless (pretty sure it is stainless), Beretta 92S, Chiappa 1911-22 (easy shooter for bringing people out first time), CZ 75 surplus off of Gunpost
And I bought a Type 56 rifle. It will probably get banned soon.
If you are on a budget, Norinco is a fine choice. If you can afford a bit, CZ P-09 or CZ 75. Send me a msg and I can tell you where to go.
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Oct 14 '22
CZ 75 Shadow 1 and TS2 are still available so I would DEFINITELY jump on those!
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Oct 14 '22
Ah yes. Thanks for pointing me towards them. The Beretta and NP22 not being considered IPSC standard was a little bit upsetting. I expected all competitive class guns to have been sold out by now. Still shelling out a 100% markup is a bitter pill to swallow. But I guess that's why they have survived the market so far and remain an option till today. :-)
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Oct 14 '22
Exactly and im happy I could help :) Its worth having a shadow 1 for sure and ALSO there is a website with Shadow 2 Orange available for sale but the markup is crazy but if you really want one its out there. I just wanted to throw that out there since it’s one of my favourite handguns
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u/raptors200 Oct 09 '22
Firearms license Ontario
Anyone else still waiting for firearms license after 8 months?
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u/Colyn45 Oct 10 '22
I called ON CFO this past week. It’s been 5 months since credit card charge for me. The lady on the phone told me the average wait in Ontario right now is 9 months and to call back in 4 months if I haven’t gotten it by then. So, I’d say wait another month and then give them a call.
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u/raptors200 Oct 10 '22
So it’s 9 months after ur credit card is charged or when they receive the paperwork
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u/wert989 Oct 10 '22
You're definitely not alone, dude. I'm at 10 months, 18 days and counting since they received application (9 months 21 days since the CC charge). It's not unusual for those of us who checked off personal histories to take over a year from what I've gathered over the last several months.
Granted I've seen outliers to that generalization where some users have taken 5-8 months. But there were variables ranging from where they contacted their MPs or the powers that be made a decision a lot quicker than the "norm" for whatever reason.
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u/raptors200 Oct 10 '22
Yeah it’s crazy long especially since you’ve pass the initial review for months
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u/chemdaddy1040 on Oct 10 '22
Anyone know of a good range in southwestern Ontario where I can drop in to zero a rifle?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 11 '22
Every year at the beginning of hunting season hunters complain about drop in fees when they don't want to support the club for the rest of the year.
Silverdale
During hunting season and winter, September 1 to March 31, we have a 50-yard range open at $20.00 (cash only) for sighting in your rifle or just pleasure range use. We are open every day except Christmas Day between 10 am and 4 pm.
Range use will be limited to 1 hour when others are waiting to sight in. When not busy there is no time limit.
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u/helltotheo Oct 11 '22
Is it too late to buy a handgun in Ontario? I have my RPAL already.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 11 '22
Buy online today from a shop to get the application for registration in today. (Possibly, depends on how late the shop is open)
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u/helltotheo Oct 11 '22
How does this work? It is my first gun
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u/remms123 Oct 11 '22
Just pick your gun. Put your pal # in and you should be good. As long as they start the transfer in time.
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u/jx84 Oct 11 '22
You buy, the store submits the transfer, and then you wait for the transfer to be processed by your province’s CFO.
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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 12 '22
Also a good idea to follow up to get the transfer ref number. Sometimes they email it, sometimes they don’t.
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u/Sticky_3pk Oct 13 '22
NB timeline
Mailed July 5
Received July 8
Initial Review visible online Sept 22
Emailed NB CFO Oct 12 asking estimated timelines
Approved Oct 13
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u/MLI691H Oct 13 '22
Congarts, now call CFP and get your license # and go shopping! Not a whole lot left, but still some good stuff such as surplus Beretta 92S, etc.
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u/ODINSPULSAR Oct 13 '22
A few questions for a first time restricted owner.
Got my transfer and firearm, got my new card, and got that other paperwork.
Just a little confused about what I need to do with the slip attached to the new card and other paperwork.
Do I need to have the conditions slip and other paper with me anytime Im going to the range?
Can I photocopy everything on to one page and keep that with my firearm?
Is keeping the paperwork in my case a bad idea?
Thanks!
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u/jaredmn Oct 13 '22
It’s technically not illegal not to have your licence and registration certificate with you. If you can’t produce them if demanded to do so by a police officer, they can seize your firearms. You then have 14 days to produce your licence and certificate and your firearms will be returned to you. I carry my licence with me and keep copies of the licence conditions and registration certificates in my gun case. A police officer would have to be an absolute prick to seize your guns if you produced an original licence and copies of the documents, but all it would mean is you would have to deal with the inconvenience of going to the detachment with your original documents to collect your guns.
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Oct 14 '22
I bet most police don't even know what a registration certificate is. As long as you have your PAL card, I would bet you would be totally fine. But yes, I do just like you do. Copy in the locked gun case.
P. S. if ever asked by a police, I'm not opening the locked case, and I'm not consenting to a search.
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u/jaredmn Oct 14 '22
100%. As diligent as we are about following the rules, we can make small mistakes with serious consequences. Assume that you’ve screwed something up in properly securing your gun for transport and don’t make it easy for your mistake to be discovered.
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u/CanadaGunsMod Oct 13 '22
You can make a copy of the conditions slip and take it with you, keep the original at home. But you need to be able to produce it on demand of a peace officer, same as your PAL card.
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Oct 13 '22
So, still waiting on my card but my license is approved. Any chance in hell, I can still get my hands on a pistol?
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Oct 13 '22
Call in, get your RPAL number, and go buy one of the P320s still in stock.
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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 14 '22
Yes, I bought two online with just my number. One from Elwood Epps and one from Prophet River. Do it now!
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Oct 14 '22
Did you previously have a PAL? If so, your RPAL number is the same, they just increase the number after the decimal by one. Use this number to buy online. Do it ASAP (right now) because the freeze may come into effect any time.
As others said, if this is your first licence, call the CFP or your CFO's Office (it may take a lot of trying to get through) and ask foe your PAL number "so you can buy a range membership". Do you nt tell them it is so you can buy a gun, they don't really like that.
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u/NuclearMelon23 Oct 14 '22
Just turned 18 last month always wanted to own a handgun for target shooting but looking at the way things are going should I even bother getting my license?
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u/woudythewoodcutter Oct 14 '22
Just do it.. you never know when it might be reversed..
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u/GinnAdvent Oct 14 '22
Do it, you don't want to go through the PAL application twice.
Things might change, so you never know. Plus, you could still go for restricted rifles.
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u/DJDarkViper Oct 14 '22
Just looking for some practical clarification on restricted transportation and storage
I'm to understand by the RCMP website that I do not need to apply for an ATT when heading direct to a recognized range within my own province with a restricted firearm. Correct? And if so, this is all well and fine for local ranges around me.
But what if it's a bit of an overnight thing? That's the part I'm a little confused about logistically. I live in the lower mainland, if I went to the Okanagan or further north to use their ranges for whatever reason, I'll likely not be coming back the same day, so what's the play in that situation?
I'm sure im overthinking it lol thanks
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u/panzermeister36 Oct 14 '22
So long as you are taking a direct route, even if it's over the course of more than one day, it should be fine.
And yes, your RPAL extra conditions sheet functions as an ATT to Provincially recognized ranges. You still need one for Federal ranges (Connaught for example) or to go to a gun store for serving the restricted firearm.
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Oct 14 '22
The key is "reasonably direct". Just remember it doesn't matter what we say or what the RCMP say. It only matters how a judge interpretes that statement.
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u/CanadaGunsMod Oct 14 '22
We routinely stay at hotels for IPSC shoots. I've called in ATT's before but I've also been told I don't need one. So who knows, it depends on who you run into that day.
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Oct 14 '22
So I my pal was approved over the phone last week and I'm just waiting for it to show up in the mail. I asked her for my pal number but she wouldn't give it to me. What are you guys asking for when you call to ask for your pal #? I asked for it so I could join a range. She said they'll call and confirm when i try to join so I don't need it.
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u/MLI691H Oct 14 '22
Call CFP. If someone won’t give you the license #, thank them, hang up, call again and get someone else.
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Oct 14 '22
Lmao thanks.That sounds exhausting haha. But ill give it a try
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u/MLI691H Oct 14 '22
Do whatever you have to get your license and get a hand gun before the freeze.
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Oct 14 '22
No handguns for me unfortunately, I only got my pal. I prefer long range anyway. But the rifle I want is hard to come by these days and 3 of them just came back in stock. So I'd like to order it before they're gone.
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Oct 09 '22
Mailed PAL application August 2nd in Ontario. Status changed to initial review completed and CC charged October 6th. How much longer of a wait am I looking at?
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u/IWIKapps Oct 09 '22
Mailed my Ontario RPAL upgrade August 6th. Hope yours is soon and mine is 4 days behind yours....
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u/nyg420 Oct 10 '22
Completely random, there are ppl who had their CC charged in late September and already got their card in hand.
I got my CC charged on August 13 and still nothing.
The process is random.
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Oct 09 '22
Can i order a slide off brownells? Or is there a site that imports slides ?
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u/jx84 Oct 09 '22
Question about the Holosun 507C with the ACSS Vulcan reticle. Does anyone know if it has a multi reticle system where it can be changed to a standard red dot, circle dot, etc like the standard 507C?
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u/Fear_The_Batman Oct 09 '22
Boresighters are a great way to set up for the range. That way you can plan your "sight in range", but will still undoubtedly need to zero it in at that range with a few rounds.
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u/cowontag11 Oct 09 '22
.22 ammo is cheap, shoot the rifle. A laser gives you a (hopefully) dead straight line, which is not what a 22 bullet will do beyond say 75 yds.
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u/fugits Oct 10 '22
Anyone have an Manitoba timeline non RPAL? my cc was charged August 28th still nothing :(
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u/ComradeVoytek Oct 10 '22
I know you said Manitoba, but I waited about 4 months in BC and my buddy is in month 3.
I'd say anything sooner than Christmas would be "quick" for them, these days.
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u/iloveneuro Oct 11 '22
What is the best way to get rid of several hundred rounds of miscellaneous bad ammo?
Basically just stuff I don’t want to potentially fuck my guns up with (old and not well labelled reloads, damaged casings, severely corroded, etc…).
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u/panzermeister36 Oct 11 '22
ranges will usually have a way of disposing of bad ammo. a little bin or something. talk to the range and they should have a way of disposing of your bulk ammo
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u/pm_me_your_brass Oct 11 '22
If you know any reloaders, you could donate it to them and they could pull them apart for components if they're still in good shape.
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u/punishwrongthink Oct 11 '22
whats the better rifle? Ruger PCC or the fx-9?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 11 '22
Just going to add my two cents, neither is a rifle as the both shoot pistol calibre. Rifle starts at about four times the power.
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u/UnderstandingFirm432 Oct 11 '22
I would guess because there's an influx of new applicants so naturally it would take longer. You are correct, it's way longer than 45 days. Right now, it's more like 4-5 months, seeing the timeline of people here.
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u/MLI691H Oct 11 '22
Minimum of 45 days. I got mine approved at 11 weeks, so that’s 77 days, and looks like I may have been in the lucky group.
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u/justsomeguy1919 Oct 11 '22
Does anyone know what the transfer time is currently? Or some recent who has had a handgun transfer go through?
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Oct 11 '22
What Province. Each province has a different timeline. It seems the federal government portion of the process is about 2 or 3 weeks. Then the province has to do their portion. Provinces like Alberta will do their portion faster than provinces like Ontario.
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u/Maleficent-Unit6763 Oct 12 '22 edited Oct 12 '22
Ontario PAL RPAL Timeline (Both me and my wife)
Sent in mail July 24
Received July 29
CC Charged Oct 04
Issues Oct 11
Just put in an order for a Norinco NP22. Going to call CFO for the license number tomorrow. Does anyone know their business hour?
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Oct 12 '22
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Oct 12 '22
Ontario RPAL for me. Sent in July 17th. Received approval and got my license number by phone yesterday October 11th. Went ahead and purchased a p226. Seems to be about a 3-4 month wait on transfers.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 12 '22
The estimate right now for Ontario is April, 6½ months for handgun transfers.
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Oct 12 '22
Ah okay, just going off of the estimate provided by a gun shop in Oshawa ON. Can’t confirm how accurate as this is my first firearm purchase.
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u/DISKFIGHTER2 Oct 12 '22
Odd, I've emailed Firearm Outlet Canada and they told me that back in early September that they were starting to receive June 3 approvals.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 12 '22
Someone on CGN has compiled a spreadsheet tracking Ontario transfers
Link below
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 12 '22
We have provincial police and they run the provincial CFO.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 12 '22
The error is that they haven't opened a file for you yet, sorry. Not until after payment (typically 28 days)
Why are they taking longer as time passes? We are not permitted to know.
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u/jx84 Oct 12 '22 edited Oct 16 '22
Ontario is taking a while from everything I’ve heard. Your dates seem like you might still be waiting a bit.
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u/RydNightwish Oct 12 '22
For anyone in AB, I just got through to the CFO and had my transfers approved (yay!). If you call now and get put in the queue wait time is about 30 mins.
Ext is 9026.
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Oct 12 '22
Yah, if you call after about 3 weeks, the Alberta CFO will approve your transfer while you are on the phone.
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u/Reddit_BroZar Oct 12 '22
Awesome! What was your overall timeline from the day of the purchase?
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u/RydNightwish Oct 12 '22
12 weeks. Ordered mid July. And a second from mid august. Didnt really start calling until 2 weeks ago and even then only did maybe a half dozen attempts on a given day. Office is closed now or shortly but I called just the once today just after 1300 so that might be a better window than first thing in the morning.
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u/Scopequest Oct 13 '22
That pitting looks terrible and deep but it shouldn't be a problem.
A) that part of the gas tube isn't handling pressure, just guiding the rod.
B) that part of the tube is very thick.
C) if it was to break and vent it won't vent much and its vent path/area is covered.
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u/Burger_Baron Oct 14 '22
Just wanna make it clear that this is not an offer to sell.
Blasphemous question: What’s currently the best way/place to sell firearms? Gunpost?
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u/Adept-Detective-8749 Oct 14 '22
Update to new RPAL wait times (ON):
Application received: April 4 2022
CC charged: July 7 2022
Approved/Issued: Oct 13 2022 - called (3 hour wait on hold with CFO) on Oct 6th and managed to convince the person to request the application be moved up.
Called Oct 13th - managed to get through and got RPAL Lic # and expiry.
Purchased Oct 13th - CZ P10F ODG out of Western Metal Inc. (price inflated; but at least it was still available).
Now waiting on transfer: 6051XXX - probably be late 2022 or early 2023.
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u/Substantial-Cash-834 on Oct 14 '22
So I recently moved and changed my address with the CFO. However, now I’ve found I made a mistake on the postal code. Ordinary I would just sign in to RCMP web services and change it, but I have 2 transfers in progress using the address (not yet approved). Do I need to get an ATT to change a few digits of my postal code even though I don’t even have any restricteds in hand yet? It would be great if I could just fix it online and be done with it, but given how much of a legal pain things can be I’m not 100% sure on this one
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u/Psnaps Oct 14 '22
Hey there I’m in Ontario. The RCMP just received my forms this morning, any idea wha the wait times are to find out if you got accepted?
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u/Adept-Detective-8749 Oct 14 '22
Mine (ON) was:
Received Apr 4
CC charged July 7
Issued Oct 13
I also spoke with the CFO and convinced them to send an email requesting mine be moved up on Oct 6 after seeing several people from Ontario receive their license before me; but applied well after. Wasn't easy to get through. Called at 7:47am to get in the call que and they picked up at 10:30am.
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u/Psnaps Oct 14 '22
Ah I see, I hear lots of people call in to see the status of the license and for it to be issued sooner. Who do I call exactly in Ontario the CFO or the RCMP themselves? What do I say when I call? Obviously it’s a tad bit early for me to call since they just received my forms today however when should I call?
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u/MLI691H Oct 14 '22
Wait at least until your application appears on the portal and your CC charged. For me it was 70 days/10 weeks.
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u/Adept-Detective-8749 Oct 18 '22
Call the CFO. They will be able to tell you if the file has been sent to them from the RCMP and if it has, then you'll want to talk to them. Don't bother calling though, if your CC hasn't been charged. I would wait at least a month after it shows up on the website as the mandatory 28 day wait time starts when the file is entered into the system.
CFO in Ontario is xt: 7503 1-800-731-4000
Once they have it, it becomes a crap shoot on whether or not the person on the other end decides to push it forward. I spoke to them about 5 times over the 3 months since they had it in their pile before this person decided to send a request to move it up. She told me right off that she can't approve it and that the email might be ignored.
The tricky part is getting through. They open at 8:30am. I would call in around 7:45am to get in the call queue. Then you'll wait on hold for a few hours. Mine got answered at 10:30am.
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u/iloveneuro Oct 14 '22
I’m guessing you mean you registered your letter so you know it was delivered? It will be put in a box and locked in a room for 28days minimum. From there it will eventually undergo initial review and they’ll charge your credit card. Expect this to occur 3 months after they receive it.
Do not bother calling them until then.
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u/PersonalKipt Oct 14 '22
My PAL was approved on Sept. 26, issued on Oct. 3, but I still haven't got my card in the mail. I called the CFO and they told me the card was sent out on the same day as when it was issued, and that I should be receiving it any day now. Does anyone have an ETA? BC btw
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u/jaredmn Oct 14 '22
I’m in BC. I received my updated RPAL with transportation conditions in the mail 10 days after it was issued
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u/_Connor Oct 14 '22
Its been 8 business days my guy, I'm not sure why you already felt the need to call the CFO. Snail mail isn't delivered over night.
When I got my new card in the mail, it took 11 business days.
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u/Brilliant_Gift1917 Oct 15 '22
If it's anything like drivers licenses or outdoor cards then expect 2-3 weeks.
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u/Deluxedaddyrg Oct 14 '22
Customs Review Timeline?
Ordered som tritium sights off Brownells and they have been in review by CBSA since October 3rd.
Just wondering if anyone else had done something similar and knows how long i can expect them to be held?
Thanks
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u/iloveneuro Oct 14 '22
Customs is a black hole that holds onto things indiscriminately and spits them out only when it pleases.
I knew someone who had their house (the truck with all their furniture and stuff) stuck in customs for 2 months when they were moving from the US to Canada. No guns involved just customs being customs.
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u/chief_robb Oct 14 '22
I have some parts coming from them as well. At customs since September 26th.
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u/CraftyStatistician42 Oct 15 '22
Anyone know what transfer day they are working on for Ontario restricteds?
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Oct 15 '22
These transfer dates on that spreadsheet are disappointing first it says February now it says April in a couple days it’ll probably say June Jfc
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Oct 11 '22
I'm predicting the OIC/Regulation handgun transfer ban comes into effect tomorrow, in the regularly scheduled Canada Gazette Part II release:
https://gazette.gc.ca/pi-ip/ds-p2-eng.html
I'm fairly confident this is the process. If they miss this one, then November 9th.
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Oct 11 '22
Oops, put this in the wrong thread, will move it over...
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u/Maleficent-Unit6763 Oct 11 '22
maybe I missed it but why not oct 26?
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Oct 11 '22
Ah, I got you, you're right.
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u/mammal911 Oct 11 '22
So you're thinking the 26th? Why do they list two dates there anyway?
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u/Adept-Detective-8749 Oct 11 '22
https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/44-1/c-21
Here is the status link to bill C-21. It's still in the house and then needs to go through the senate.
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u/Maleficent-Unit6763 Oct 11 '22
I think the main concern now is the OIC that bans handgun transfer before C21 makes it to become a law. Speculation is that this OIC can come into effect anytime.
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u/Acceptable-Star-8469 Oct 15 '22
Ontario pal application timeline: Me(18 male)and my father both sent sent our pal application’s on July 27th.
Arrived on august 3rd.
Application statuses viewable online and were in initial review stage on October 6th.
Application’s approved and issued October 15th.
Now we just have to wait for pal card’s to arrive in the mail.
Extra information for anyone interested.We used money order’s instead of cc for payment,did not use tracked mail( not recommended btw).We didn’t call or email the CFO and none of our reference’s were called.
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u/TheSmallSlice Oct 15 '22
Congratulations, but man it is realllyy starting to grate on me, how the hell is everyone who sent theirs after I sent mine getting approved? Like seriously what's going on? There should be literally nothing to constitute me not getting approved.
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u/UnderstandingFirm432 Oct 10 '22
What does the process look like when I order a restricted from an online store? I know the transfer itself takes months. Do I just make the payment and wait? What about the ATT, file it right away?
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u/jx84 Oct 10 '22
The store initiates the transfer, then you just wait. I waited about a month and then called my province’s CFO (BC) and they approved it over the phone. They emailed me and the store a copy of the transfer. I then contacted the store, sent them my copy of the transfer, and they mailed the gun out to me. Before you can take it to the range you have to wait for the registration paperwork to come in the mail, and then you are good to go.
If this is your first restricted you will also receive a new license card that will have the transport conditions attached to it. You do not need an ATT to take it to the range.
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u/UnderstandingFirm432 Oct 10 '22
Thank you. This registration paper work in the mail will be from CFO? This new license card with transport conditions attached, do I have to fill and submit to get that?
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u/jx84 Oct 10 '22
I can’t recall if the paperwork was from the CFO or CFP, but it took about 3 weeks for it to arrive in the mail.
No you won’t have to do anything for the card. It is issued automatically.
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Oct 10 '22
Better hurry. The rumours are that the freeze is likely to go into effect on Tuesday.
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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 11 '22
You might also ask the store for the Transfer Ref number. A/ so you confirm it’s been initiated, and B/ so if you call the CFO later to try to push it through you have a number to give them.
I got my license a couple of weeks ago and immediately purchased two handguns from two different stores. One sent an email with the ref number the next day, the other I had to call to get it, but they were totally cool about it.
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u/Grimmerthan Oct 13 '22
Jeez, I'm pissed off now. Very unsatisfying call with Alberta CFO.
I called on Tuesday to ask about approval for a transfer, as the seller was moving out of the country. I had a great chat with the officer, and she approved that one, as well as one that was 10+ weeks overdue.
Today, I get through, and I asked about approval for a transfer, in that the seller is selling his house and moving into a supported living facility. This time, the officer simply told me that you're just going to keep calling in and asking for exceptions one by one, they're not going to do that, and you're slowing things down for everyone else.
The first officer told me about how she feels badly that they're not able to process these orders as they had in he past. The second officer told me I'm part of the problem.
Which officer is more common?
Am I calling back next week? Oh yes, 100%.
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u/UnderstandingFirm432 Oct 11 '22
What does the process of transffering a NR look like?
It says that you can go through the Web Portal. I have not logged in yet, so I don't know what it looks like what I just wanted to confirm if it's instant or if there's something I need to prepare before heading to buy a NR from a private seller.
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Oct 14 '22
I’m in BC and purchased a glock on July 17th. I got the transfer number from seller and kind of just forgot about it till now. I realize it’s been three months. What have my fellow bc residents wait times been for restricted? Been trying to get ahold of the cfo all of today and can’t even be put on hold.
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u/motomagnus25 Oct 14 '22
Hey everyone, I’m in Ontario. My licence was approved and I got my RPAL number Sept/ 29th Ive been buying a few handguns online and getting transfer numbers as usual, also ordered one NR, then 4 days later get an email from the CFP saying I have a new message in the individual web services, I can’t log in as a registered licence holder, it says no info in the system? Is this normal? Also what are the timelines for licence mailing in Ontario after it’s issued. Thanks!
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u/MLI691H Oct 14 '22
The letter is just your NR Reference number issued.
You should be able to log in with your last name, license #, birthday, and your city of birth and see the letter. If you can’t, there is something wrong with your info.
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u/motomagnus25 Oct 14 '22
Awesome thanks, glad it’s not something important that I need to see right away I emailed my CFO, hoping I can get it straightened out because I am entering all my info correctly online, worries me after making all these purchases
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u/HemiJay_Toronto Oct 09 '22
Anyone in Ontario have their restricted transfer approved in the past couple of days? If so, please post the first 4 digits of your reference number.
And before anyone says check the spreadsheet - it’s a nice guideline but it is based on averages.
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Oct 09 '22 edited Oct 14 '22
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u/HemiJay_Toronto Oct 09 '22
The CGN spreadsheet - which I look at daily - is based on averages rather than true numbers.
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u/sinep_snatas Oct 11 '22
This has probably been asked before, but I can't find a way to search this thread. Bought my handgun online on Sep. 27th (two weeks ago). The status went to 'Transfer in Progress' pretty quick and the page tells me this means it's with CFO.
How long have RPAL transfers been taking these days?
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u/ggdrguy Oct 11 '22
All depends on your province, could be days, could be months and months
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Oct 13 '22
Well fellas It’s not looking like I’ll get a pal I’m so disappointed They said if I’ve waited 7 months and I can’t even see my application progress wen I type in my name and city of birth , then there’s a reason to be concerned. So I guess they just decided I wasent a good fit …. Guess I’m an archer now
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Oct 13 '22 edited Oct 13 '22
Why wouldn't you be a good fit if you don't mind me asking? It actually takes a lot to be denied a license and if you checked any boxes, you are going to wait a year plus.
If you aren't even in the system, then maybe there was some sort of fuck up.
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u/chowdowncowtown Oct 13 '22
Did you send it via registered mail? Might have just gotten lost by Canada Post if you sent it regular lettermail.
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u/Brilliant_Gift1917 Oct 15 '22
Are there any guns at all, preferably non-restricted, that are chambered in 5.56 and have an upper charging handle like the AR15? I know Raven whoever is making one but it's just a concept right now, no one has seemingly got one from their pre-orders.
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