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u/Apples_and_Overtones Your feet suck and so do you Jul 07 '22
Lol this drives me crazy. One gun shop I've perused online before (Wild West in Edmonton) changed their web store at some point and now it's practically unusable. No filters for anything except broad searches like "ammunition" or "handguns"
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Jul 06 '22 edited Jul 06 '22
My detailed Ontario RPAL application process!
TLDR: It took 5.5 months to be approved for an RPAL even with having to resubmit a photo. Don’t use printer paper. Only use PHOTO PAPER for the ID picture. I think I’m one of the lucky ones that has been rushed through.
(sorry for the long post I’m hoping it can help more than one person)
My girlfriend and I did the course Oct 21, 2021. It took 6 weeks to get our course papers in the mail needed to apply for for the RPAL.
I sent mine and my girlfriends application in separate “protected & tracked” envelopes on Jan 21, 2022. It was marked as received on Canada Post tracking on the 24th.
March 12 my girlfriend and I were charged by the RCMP for the licences. After this we were able to sign in to the IWS. Before the credit card charge we were unable to sign in and received an error message when we tried.
March 20 I received notice in the mail that our photo printed on regular printer paper could not be accepted. They mentioned the new photo scanning machine only works on PHOTO PAPER. We got our photos taken at shoppers drug mart that day & mentioned it was for our PAL. They cut it to size and I mailed them both back that same day attached to an “application number” they mailed me.
June 16 my girlfriend and I logged into the IWS and our status changed from “completed initial review” straight to “your licence has been issued”. Due to my childish impatience I checked the IWS daily and this was the only change in the status.
At this time (July 06) my girlfriend and I are still waiting on our cards. I hear that one of the printing machines have broken and to expect an additional 2-4 week delay (4-6weeks total) for card printing. Reading this sub, the current timeline really seems to be between 22-27 days total. I will update this post when we receive the licences.
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u/chief_robb Jul 08 '22
PAL Update from Alberta
Received Feb 18
CC charged & initial review May 12
License issued June 14
PAL in hand July 8
10 days shy of 5 months.
Now to go shopping.
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Jul 07 '22
ONTARIO TRANSFER UPDATE
May 31, they started the transfer that afternoon from Northern Elite in Sask
July 7 just got the email 1 minute ago (noon)
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Jul 07 '22
On a side note, the email says I can go pick up my firearm. It's being mailed, but do I have to email Northern Elite the transfer? Or will their system get a notif saying they can send it?
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u/Apples_and_Overtones Your feet suck and so do you Jul 07 '22
The retailer is supposed to get a copy. However I just bought one and the retailer asked me to forward my copy to them because for whatever reason the CFO sometimes doesn't send it or something.
I suggest calling the store and asking.
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u/CringelordCameron Jul 07 '22
This gives me hope. Unfortunately my transfer was initiated on June 1 but I'm assuming it will go through sometime next week at this point.
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Jul 07 '22
Do you mind sharing the first three digits of your Reference number? (this is non-identifying info) That will be more useful for helping us track timing. I'm guessing you're somewhere around 589****
I ordered one on May 30th, and one on June 1st. I got the 30th already, just waiting on the 1st.
( and then two more two weeks later... LOL )
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u/the-Mutt Jul 05 '22
Alberta based RPAL.
Application received 14 Feb 2022 Licence issued 23 June 2022 Card is now in hand.
Call me happy, and now to empty my bank account ……..
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u/Grimmerthan Jul 06 '22
Awesome! I'm glad you got it. This gives me some time-frame for processing. My RPAL application was received April 11th, and I'm crossing my fingers.
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u/inderrawal Jul 06 '22
How do you know receiving date. Did you send registered mail or you can see details online?
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Jul 08 '22
Application received: April 5 CC Charged: July 7
Initial review.
Location: ON
🤞🏼
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u/sagervai Jul 03 '22
We'd like to get some unrestricted firearms, probably hunting rifles. But, a member of our family has suffered depression before, and we want to keep them safe. Are there any ranges in southern Ontario that can store for you? Will our family member's health history prevent the rest of us from getting licenses? Thanks so much!
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u/iloveneuro Jul 03 '22
Your family member’s heath history has nothing to do with your ability to acquire a firearms license. You would however have a responsibility to ensure your firearms are not used for unintended purposes (i.e. to harm a person).
Lock them up in a safe or room and don’t give them the key or combination. It’s that simple.
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Jul 03 '22
If your family member is not licensed it's illegal for them to have access anyway. I would recommend spending the money on a proper gun safe and go above and beyond and put trigger locks on Aswell.
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u/NoName762x39 Jul 04 '22 edited Mar 07 '23
Paperwork sent with tracking on 16 Feb
Delivered to RCMP on 24th Feb
Credit Card charged 5th May
RCMP Portal said Licence issued and sent on 5th June
Actual Issue date of Licence 23rd June
Picked up from mailbox 3rd July
Alberta
Thank you to everyone who helped me and Thank you to the kind people on the other end of the telephone at the RCMP
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u/Distinct_Ad9770 Jul 04 '22
I know they used to print on thursdays and send out the cards only on Fridays... but after the delays with the card printing, do they send out the cards every day?
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u/Distinct_Ad9770 Jul 04 '22
Nevermind, I think what I was assuming was right, just received mine this afternoon 😁😁
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u/Major_Let_2874 Jul 05 '22 edited Jul 05 '22
I sent in my application February 3, 2021 and haven't got my license yet.... my CC was charged around April 2021, online it says it's under review, and I've called several times and they won't give me any info/tell me it's processing and to call back in a month. Has anyone else experienced/heard of this?!?!
*I'm in Alberta
ETA: not February 2022… it’s been over a year since I sent in my application.
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Jul 05 '22
2021?? If that’s not a typo, then I would be contacting my MP to see if they can help.
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u/presdint100 Jul 05 '22
Interesting I sent mine on February 11 and got my card last week not sure why they are so inconsistent in processing times
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Jul 03 '22 edited Jul 03 '22
Last week the CFO in Alberta called me and told me my PAL application could take a year because of the backlog. Government efficiency at its best.
Edited: It happened last week.
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u/The_Crover Jul 03 '22 edited Jul 03 '22
What the context? Did you send the application in yesterday or 6 months ago? Did they say where the backlog was? With the Federal side or with the AB CFO?
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Jul 03 '22
Sorry I mistyped it was last week on Thursday. She said the delay was on the federal side. I called them to confirm it had been received and not lost in the mail. I submitted it mid April.
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Jul 03 '22
How did you get confirmation that they received it? I really don't mind waiting but I hate not knowing
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Jul 03 '22 edited Jul 03 '22
The CFO said it was received but just said it would be a year. They haven’t even looked at the file. I hope that they are just saying that to get people to stop calling. A year is crazy.
I hear you. I’m ok waiting but I do want to know it was received and is being looked at.
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u/DiviHeisen Jul 03 '22
Hey folks, newbie here. Just completed my safety course last week and iam now going over the PAL application form.... the history section asks about a youth record and conditional discharges etc. My issue is I had an assault charge as a youth (school yard fight) approximately 18 years ago and a B&E charge at 18 years old which was granted a conditional discharge 16 years ago. I dont have a criminal record... no tickets not even a speeding ticket. Young and stupid i guess. My current job required a background check. I got my background check and my record is clear. Its was so long ago i dont remember specific dates or even what the conditions where. I dont wanna fill this out wrong and prolong my waiting period or better yet have to redo the form but i have no idea how iam suppose to access the details on this stuff? Especially when my record appears to be cleared. Would the RCMP have this info still? Any help is appreciated .
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u/cowontag11 Jul 03 '22
Horse police would have this info. I would suggest putting down everything to the best of your knowledge but note on your application these are best guesses (I'm assuming timeline is the issue). They'll have the correct info. Don't omit anything.
"Young and stupid" You should rethink that if asked as no shortage of "older and stupid" This isn't something that'll win you points, own it. "Poor behaviour/judgement, lesson learned"
hopefully you get approved. Best of luck.
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u/Abztract Jul 03 '22
Answer truthfully. In terms of your criminal charges, parrot what your conditional discharge stated. Don't make it an essay. If you don't remember specific dates make approximations. It may take a bit longer for approval when you tick yes on any boxes (6 - 12 months). If you have any further questions DM me and I'd be happy to answer.
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u/NakedMoleToTheMoon Jul 07 '22
Bought a restricted june 1st during the mass buying Transfer approved today july 7 Qc
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u/giovannigionta Jul 07 '22
Can you please provide the 4 first numbers of your transfer. That would help me understand where we are in the queue more or less. Thanks !
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u/Timtam1225 Jul 10 '22
BC transfer time: purchased June 16th from a BC gun store, received transfer notice today Saturday July 9th. They must be working overtime on a weekend.
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u/spaceymonkey2 Jul 03 '22
Just had my first restricted transfer go through, and in that email it said that the ATT's are now attached to my RPAL. Does this mean that they send me a new PAL card, or is it electronically attached? What is the current process that I need to follow going to and from the range?
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u/BigPapaPump6969 bc Jul 03 '22
If it's your first transfer, you'll get a new PAL as well as a registration certificate. The new PAL will have your long term ATT attached so you can use it and the certificate to go to the range and anywhere you need to. You'll need a short term ATT to take it anywhere that's not a range (gunsmith, store, etc). For going to the range, keep your PAL and cert with you, double lock the firearm, and don't take any unnecessary stops (if you're caught, ya get fucked by da feds)
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Jul 03 '22
Do you know if they snail mail you the registration or email??
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u/BigPapaPump6969 bc Jul 03 '22
Your transfer notice is emailed (you'll need this to pick gun up from store) the rest is snail mail (you can also use your cert to pick gun up from store)
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u/lordoffire on Jul 04 '22
If my licence (PAL/RPAL) is showing a "has been issued" state on the PAL web portal, can I call in and get my number/card details, and get an online purchase started? Or is it better to wait for the physical card (assuming the first bit is even possible)?
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Jul 04 '22
The printing of the PAL cards is also delayed recently and is taking longer than the 2 weeks it’s supposed to. You can call in and ask to get your PAL number (e.g to apply for a range membership). Once you have it you may be able to start a purchase without the card, but I guess it depends on the store. I wouldn’t try to take take possession until you have received the card though.
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u/CringelordCameron Jul 04 '22
Has anyone here had a transfer go through for a handgun purchased on May 30-31 in Ontario? I know it's going to be a long wait but I have some hope that it won't be too much worse than normal.
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u/ggdrguy Jul 04 '22
Might as well release that hope… Sask I usually a day or two at most and it took me 27 days for one and still waiting on another from the same order…
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Jul 04 '22
APPARENTLY the CFOON was on to May 30 on Thursday. Pretty sure that's when a lot of the panic buying started. Throw in the long weekend and we're probably looking at the end of this week I'd guess.
My transfer got initiated on May 31 from a retailer, so I'm waiting too
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u/discostu55 Jul 05 '22
So I’ve been waiting over a month now for a transfer for a purchase made on June 3rd. I called cabelas and asked them and I asked if they are getting any more handguns in. The lady say they’re first shipment was completely sold out and so was their second. She’s says it’s unlikely they will get more before the end of the year. So that’s sucks.
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u/jk_can_132 Jul 07 '22
Timeline on RPAL intake to issue?
I did my course back on Feb 5/6, mailed April 1, received April 7, and credit card charged on July 7 (today).
When should I expect my RPAL to be issued? I am in Ontario
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Jul 07 '22
It's going to be at least a month after CC charged. Then another 2 weeks to get to you in the mail.
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u/jk_can_132 Jul 07 '22
Okay not bad then will be a slightly early birthday gift from the RCMP then lol best one I ever got 😂
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u/MrDrVladdzy Jul 07 '22
- Course Jan 6
- Charged CC April
- Card in the mail July 4th
I may have been a bit longer as I had to disclose I was laid off during the pandemic in the application form. Right on there it says if you choose yes for any of these options you may be subject to further review. So, plan 7 months worst case from application date
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Jul 07 '22 edited Jul 07 '22
5.5 months approximately
My timeline including missing info
(Had to resend photo printed on Photo Paper)
- Received from RCMP Jan 24
- CC charged March 12
- Received notice of illegitimate photo March 20
- Resent photo printed on photo paper March 20. Photo done at Shoppers Drug Mart
- Approved June 16
- Photo printed July 03 (called CFP to ask)
- Yet to receive licence, expected next week.
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u/cowontag11 Jul 09 '22
Do you have a sense of the rate in Ontario? Specifically is it about one calendar day a week etc. I've got a June 6th and 23rd transfers (retail purchases) I'm curious as to approximate completion.
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Jul 03 '22
I just received a notification that the RCMP payment for the PAL application was charged to my credit card. I'm expecting it to be another 3-4 months. Is that a fair assumption?
In the meantime I've started a layaway for a Tikka T3x Lite Veil Alpine in .308. Pretty stoked.
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u/Outrageous_Ad521 Jul 03 '22
Nice! When did you send in your application? I sent my application 1st week of April and haven’t heard anything yet.
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Jul 03 '22
Mine was about 2 months after that.
Received Feb 25
CC charged May 19
License issued June 21
I’m in Ontario
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u/daws6996 Jul 04 '22
Is anybody else having a bitch of a time getting through to CFP over the phone ? I'll call as soon as the clock strikes 0900 and it goes straight to "call cannot be completed at this time". It's like they're just keeping the line off so they can't be bothered....
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u/wert989 Jul 04 '22
Lol you're definitely not alone. Ever since the announcement they made back in May, people have been buying restricted firearms like crazy and it's causing a sharp influx of calls on top of them having pretty full queues before.
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u/daws6996 Jul 04 '22
Has anyone heard of longer processing times ? A transfer was submitted 2 weeks ago by mail using their form from the website and still haven't heard nothing. Last time a transfer was initiated it took less than 48 hours...
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u/wert989 Jul 04 '22
Yeah of course. Every week a few people usually mention their wait times as a point of reference for the rest of us. Earlier in this thread there are people who still haven't gotten their transfers approved from mid-May.
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u/WhereTFAmI nt Jul 04 '22
What time zone are you in? It’s 9 - 5 nationwide calling. They use your area code to determine your hours of operation. So if you’re in Alberta, the phone lines have already been open for 3.5 hours by the time you can call at 9am.
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u/BuyRelevant1000 Jul 04 '22
Call and select the French option, they're bilingual. Sincerely, guy who got through and was told this is the way by the bilingual clerk.
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u/Ornery-Chest-7394 Jul 04 '22
Lol what are the options to select. I don't speak a word of french. I just tried this and I think I got the same "call can't be completed" message in french. 😂
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u/Markiavelli98 Jul 05 '22
Just purchased my first restricted on July first from an Ontario online retailer and I live in Ontario. I’ll keep updating with info as I receive it, but as it stands I’m assuming I’m in for the long haul.
Once the transfer is approved does the firearm ship? Or does the store need to wait until I get the required paperwork by snail mail?
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u/loadedjellyfish Jul 05 '22
They can ship it as soon as you have the emailed transfer confirmation. But like any seller, your product ships when they have time to ship it, and it's an incredibly busy time for them.
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Jul 06 '22
Is 7months wait normal for waiting for a PAL to come in?
Submitted my shit 7 months ago and haven’t heard back since. Should I try and get in contact with them? Or is this normal? I’d love to be able to buy a gun before all of them are banned lol
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u/inderrawal Jul 06 '22
I am following timeframe that people have been posting it looks like that 4 months is the time frame for application received till feb...3 months for the CC to be charged and 4-5 weeks after that...i would say you need to contact your MP...and keep fingers crossed that horse police replies back to MP..😂😂
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Jul 06 '22
Hi I was approved in 5.5 months and I had to resubmit a new photo on top of everything. Ontario.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 06 '22
If your credit card was charged call your CFO.
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u/djdirtyshawa1976 Jul 06 '22
Same boat as you. Dec 14 received, cc charge January 27. Contacted rcmp in April said it was at CFO. Contacted CFO in May got generic it's in question to be reviewed. Emailed my MP end of June they said not much they can do. Than got an email again from MP on Monday asking for all my information and letting them call on my behalf. Hopefully after 7 months them contacting will push it to the finish line.
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u/norcm1a Jul 06 '22
I’m wondering if anyone else has had this issue. I applied for a RPAL upgrade at the middle/end of March. I sent the application through registered mail and with a certified bank draft it was received by mirimachi. I finally called today and was told it’s possible my application was lost. They said to give it two more weeks and call again. Anyone else had experiences with this?
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u/Immediate-Pop-5267 Jul 09 '22
I sent application march 21st, june 17th cc charged and online portal says completed initial review. I dont know if that will help your timeline
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Jul 06 '22
Long story short, I didn't send the full amount for the PAL application on accident and I was wondering if they would accept a credit card not in my name as I don't have one.
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Jul 06 '22
Anybody know the rules regarding transportation of a restricted on a motorcycle?
Trigger lock, in locked case, and in a backpack.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 07 '22
The laws do not diffentiate between car and bike and front end loader
Trigger lock, in locked case
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Jul 07 '22
I called the RCMP yesterday and they said my application is in the photo scanning process. Anyone have any idea how long it takes from this stage?
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Jul 07 '22
I'm trying to sell a restricted firearm online right now. I have someone who wants to pay half now and then pay the other half when the transfer is approved. I know it's best to take the full payment first but there is quite a bit of money at stake so I understand where they are coming from. Just wondering what would happen if the transfer is approved and then he doesn't pay the rest. Could I just transfer it back? Or hold out on shipping till it's payed?
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Jul 07 '22
Don't do it. Find another buyer if he won't budg. It is very standard to take full payment. Why would the transfer not be accepted anyway? It is a crazy notion.
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u/Chief_Nods_A_Lot Jul 08 '22
How long are you guys waiting for your license? I started my process on April 21st! I just phoned and they said I'm waiting for an officer to finalize it. I asked her if that was normal and she said it's only because of a back log. Really frustrating because I'm moving soon.
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u/chief_robb Jul 08 '22
Received mine in the mail today. Just about 5 months from them receiving my application to receiving the license in the mail.
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u/Chief_Nods_A_Lot Jul 08 '22
That is really messed up! Im moving at the end of the month so it'll be interesting to see if they issue my STATT
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u/chief_robb Jul 08 '22
Once your card is charged, you’ll be able to login to the site. On there you’ll see a reference number. Once you have that, call in and update your address.
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Jul 09 '22
The comment above yours reported 5 months in Alberta. I think this is the worst it has ever been.
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Jul 09 '22
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u/CanadaGunsMod Jul 05 '22
Update on BC:
Things are definitely clearing. I've had three transfers complete in the last 24 hours and received a registration on a handgun purchased on 06/02 that cleared two weeks ago.
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u/ultra_bright Jul 07 '22
Bruh this Ontario restricted transfer time is killing me, it's almost week 6.
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Jul 07 '22
Yup, June 3rd and 4th, still in CFO review with no timeline.
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u/CringelordCameron Jul 07 '22 edited Jul 08 '22
They started approving transfers initiated on May 31 so it shouldn't be too much longer
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u/Maleficent_Cancel_46 Jul 03 '22
I just got my first rifle (Savage Mark II .22) but can’t find any ammo to buy. All sold out. Any tips on how to go about it? (Calgary area)
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u/Abztract Jul 03 '22
I'd like opinions on starter guns:
Handgun:
Walther PDP 4.5" optic ready full size Glock 17 Sig Sauer p320 Some sort of 1911
Rifle: Savage Mark ii Ruger 10/22 (possible tacticool conversion kits for the Ruger?) GSG-16
Any leads on ranges accepting members or crown land in Ontario would be helpful too.
Thank you for any replies!
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u/knine71551 Jul 04 '22
What are the use cases for the handgun and what do you like more? Striker vs DA/SA
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u/wert989 Jul 04 '22 edited Jul 04 '22
Not in MB, I'm in Ontario, but have been waiting since November. We've definitely been waiting longer than some of the people here but it's not unheard of. At this point I'm just going to be patient since a few other posters in the past few weeks have been saying they had to wait 9 to like 13 months if I remember correctly?
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u/investor-369 Jul 04 '22
Is Sig Sauer MPX 8" still available for canadian? If yes, where can I find it? I have no luck looking for 1
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u/WhereTFAmI nt Jul 04 '22
How long has it been taking you guys to get the transfer approval email after completing a transfer over the phone? I completed a transfer almost two weeks ago, and I’m just waiting for the confirmation email so the seller can ship it…
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u/NonTraditionalPotato Jul 04 '22
Depends on the province's CFO. Take a look through the previous weeks threads and you'll probably find people in your province. Took 3 weeks for me. I'm in Labrador, June 3rd to June 26th (if I remember correctly) to get the TN
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u/WhereTFAmI nt Jul 04 '22
Ok. I just wanted to be sure they’re actually sending them out. Nothing I can do but wait now anyways.
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u/UnrulyCitizen Jul 04 '22
Hey guys, I had a question for you all. I have an old revolver that is currently classified as restricted, but I'm am almost certain that it is actually an antique after doing some research. Now, how do I go about getting it reassessed by the RCMP for them to proclaim it as an antique and therefore "not a firearm"? I have evidence from some reputable sources but I have no idea if there is even a way to do something like this at all. Any help would be appreciated, thanks guys.
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u/CringelordCameron Jul 04 '22
You need to find a registered firearms verifier in your area. They will confirm that the classification is antique, photograph the firearm and send all information to the rcmp. Once the rcmp approves the reclassification, the handgun will be removed from the registry.
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u/BopplzLife British Columbia Jul 04 '22
I've asked this question a couple of times with no luck, hoping someone is able to help me. My question is about the Minor's Possession License, specifically for anyone who currently has one (or had one recently) and is in BC. Especially if you got it during COVID times.
What conditions can I expect to get on my license? I know Alberta has a couple of conditions they put on every minor's license, I would assume that BC also has some conditions they put on every license, just wondering what those are. I am wondering about license conditions that are attached to the license by the provincial CFO of BC. Thanks.
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u/BopplzLife British Columbia Jul 05 '22
So are you saying we have the same conditions put on as Alberta? (linked in original post) I'm trying to figure out if I am able to borrow my parent's NR gun and go shooting without any supervision as well as if I am able to act as a supervising person for someone without a license? My interpretation of the RCMP page on MPLs is that you can do that under federal law but was wanting to see if the CFO would put conditions saying I can't since it looks like that is what AB does.
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u/BopplzLife British Columbia Jul 05 '22
Thank you very much. Any idea if direction means like supervision in this context? I have a sneeky suspicion it does but then what is even the point of an MPL? Especially when the parent doesn't even need to have a license for the minor to get one. Maybe it just means the parent can tell/direct their minor what they can do with the firearm on any given day?
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u/BopplzLife British Columbia Jul 05 '22
Yea, I'm a bit under two years off being able to apply for my PAL. I'll probably ask the CFO if they call or I'll call if they don't. I'd like to be able to go out to crown land and do some shooting without needing to bring a PAL holder with me. Thank you for your help.
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u/Honest_Mat3 Jul 05 '22
This may sound dumb but I would like to ask: can I put a handgun on hold by simply buying it from gunpost and wait until my rpal arrives before transferring it?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 05 '22
As someone who sells and buys on gunpost, no, I would not accept your money until after I had verified that you had a current rPAL.
I could be stuck with the gun for months unable to sell it because of a 'deposit'.
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u/Scopequest Jul 05 '22
It's not that simple. If you initiate a normal sale/transfer they will eventually realize you aren't providing licence info and tell you to go away.
Some people/businesses may be willing to take a non-refundable deposit and sell the gun to you if you become a legal recipient in a set period of time. But that's a special case you'd have to ask about and I bet many will not be willing to do so.
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u/blockboy187 Jul 05 '22
If you happen to lose ur ATT paper slip could u get a new one ?
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Jul 05 '22
I assume you have to get one from the RCMP. Good luck.
FYI, you should keep the original in your safe. I only carry photo copies when I'm transporting. In fact, I've got multiples, one in my gun case. One in my range bag, on in my PAL wallet. Just to make sure there's zero chance I forget it somehow. I also keep copies of my PAL in my gun case and range bag. Again... just to be sure.
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u/cryrid Jul 05 '22
Fill out the form and cough up whatever fee they ask for the replacement document
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/wam/media/3633/original/eac635de7d2c3fd49575350060f8c146.pdf
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u/accuracy_frosty Jul 05 '22
What’s the time looking like to get my PAL, I live in Ontario if that matters and I’m about to go through the process now
I imagine the RCMP is getting swamped by all the restricted transfers and people rushing for their RPAL but still
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u/djdirtyshawa1976 Jul 05 '22
Anywhere from 4 months to a year. I'm on month 7 right now but have seen people get it faster.
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Jul 05 '22
I ordered a plate carrier from Spiritus Systems on June 14, it shipped out on June 16, and USPS tracking has stated “held in customs” since the 26th. Been over a week now. Anyone have any experience ordering gear from the states/have similar experiences? I understand international orders can take a little longer, and customs would want to take the time to confirm that the “tactical/military” gear can indeed be shipped into Canada but I’m starting to get a little worried. Any information/advice would be greatly appreciated.
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Jul 05 '22
A year or so ago I ordered a carrier from China, took like 2 months to show up. It'll probably be stuck in customs for a few weeks
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Jul 05 '22
Keep in mind, what we all call the long term or permanent ATT actually is just a Transportation Condition. This Transport Condition allows you to take your restricted firearm to the any range in your province or to a police station (don't take them to a police station) without having to get an actual ATT.
Are you buying your first restricted firearm? You can take it home as soon as you get your transfer approved. But you are only permitted to go to the range once you have the registration certificate and your updated PAL card with the Transportation Condition on it. (and the paper the PAL card was attached to that explains the details of the Transportation Condition).
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u/CanadaGunsMod Jul 05 '22
It's active as part of your RPAL conditions. As soon as you have the copy of the transfer notice, you can transport the firearm home. When you get the registration, you can take it to the range. You don't have to do anything.
You can transport to any range in your province. Outside your province, you need an ATT.
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Jul 05 '22
If it is their first restricted, then do they not need the new license that will come, reflecting the ATT?
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u/CanadaGunsMod Jul 05 '22
Yes, they will need to wait for the new license as that license will have the conditions attached.
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u/Apples_and_Overtones Your feet suck and so do you Jul 05 '22
I'm also wondering this. Technically you need to carry that conditions paper with you so I'd assume you need the physical copy, but I've never known for certain.
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u/CanadaGunsMod Jul 05 '22
Yes, you are required to wait as you need to be able to present that conditions paper to a peace officer if requested.
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u/egodarren Jul 06 '22
Hii guys i live in QC i did a transfer may 25 for my first restricted gun. Which was pre announcement. I still have no news. My friend told me they call references for my first restricted, i asked my references and no one has contacted them yet. What can i do? who can i call to see what is going on or is this normal? Thx
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u/NakedMoleToTheMoon Jul 06 '22
Took 2 months for my first restricted. They’ll call both your references and they’ll call you too. They’ll ask your references questions along the line of « is this person violent » « do you have any reason to believe this person shouldn’t own a firearm » « how long have you known this person » that’s about it. They’ll ask you how long you’ve known your references, if you had any major events in the last 2 years (job change/loss, breakup and such), they’ll ask you why you want a restricted firearm and that’s about it.
Once they start calling your references, it’ll be pretty fast from there, 2-3days max and you’ll receive your transfer confirmation and will be able to take possession of your gun. You can call them or email them and see how far they are in the first restricted process.
1-800-731-4000 and when they ask you, use extension 7005 this will connect you directly with the qc cfo office.
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u/PM_YOUR_HOT_FEATURE Jul 06 '22
It's been over a week since my credit card was charged but I still can't log in via IWS - how soon have people been able to?
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Jul 06 '22
You should be able to login right away. They may have entered your information incorrectly so I would give them a call to check.
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u/wally233 Jul 07 '22
Hello Reddit, I received my RPAL this year and purchased the typical non restricted firearms combo of SKS, .22 LR, 12 Gauge, and a .308 rifle.
I never had interest in hand guns but got my RPAL just in-case, and now with law changes on the horizon I don't want to miss out on owning a hand gun.
Only problem is I know almost nothing about handguns or where to get them (my closest Cabelas in Barrie doesn't seem to have any in stock).
I've been told the CZ Shadow are good, but I can't find any in stock and have no idea the price range.
What would you suggest, and where should I look? I'm interested in just a basic firearm that is good value for money, much like the other firearms I've purchased which everyone else seems to as well.
Thanks for any guidance!
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u/giovannigionta Jul 07 '22
It is common practice to order from legitimate Canadian online stores (even out of province).
CZ makes excellent firearms. Definitely highly recommended amongst many. I would stick to either a Shadow 2 or TS2. You are looking at roughly 1,600-1,700$ for their standard editions and 2,800-3,000$ for the higher end editions.
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u/NonTraditionalPotato Jul 08 '22 edited Jul 08 '22
Shadow is great but expensive. If you pick up a Sig P320, with it modularity, you could upgrade it to the X5 Legion someday with a Completion Kit or you can change calibre between 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 cal, or even .45 ACP if you change the slide release on the FCU (fire control unit). Sig P320 have FCUs with the serial number. So the FCU can change out into different grips and uppers to become "different" guns with the same serial number. I picked one up myself because of the freeze due to this.
Edit: said rail instead of slide release
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u/giovannigionta Jul 07 '22
I am looking to have an idea of the current wait times for transfers to Quebec residents. If you have received a transfer in the last couple of days, can you please provide some further details (purchase date, transfer date, approximate transfer number, private or business purchase). Thanks !
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u/nrgyzer Jul 09 '22
I bought a Walther PPQ M2 22LR at Al Flahertys for $650 while gotenda was selling them for $730 I've seen Tenda relist them on and off, the latest being for $830. If people are willing to buy, I guess all the power to them. I've seen a lot of fair prices at Al Flahertys through all this and I will go out of my way to support them.
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Jul 08 '22
Whats the law to transporting ammunition to the range? Do you have to lock it up inside an ammo container? Or can I just store it inside a backpack kept in its original paper box container.
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u/EngineNecessary8696 Jul 08 '22
Saskatchewan,
Application received Feb 24 CC Charged May 15th Initial review done.
Called the RCMP today and they said my application is with CFO in the final stages. Should I call the CFO?
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u/Tiekal Jul 09 '22
Do I submit the carbon copies of the course with my pal/rpal application or do I make photocopies like it says ?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 10 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
If there is stock in Canada it won't take long at all since Stoeger Canada is nearby.
Side note, Stoeger Canada sell parts and accessories online and free shipping over $50.
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u/EarthedVein-Erotica Jul 10 '22
Hello all, What number do we call to speak to a CFO to follow up on RPAL applications after CC is charged? (from Ontario).
Sorry if its answered or mentioned elsewhere already..
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u/cryrid Jul 10 '22
The decimal value should have been bumped up (so if the first card ended with .0001, the second would end in .0002). The attached conditions slip, which you also need to keep and have on you, should now list the condition of being able to transport firearms to the range.
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u/cryrid Jul 10 '22
I assume the paper is important in any province as it should form part of your ATT. I'm not in Ontario, but mine includes the line:
"Carry this document with your license card as you must be able to produce this document on demand if requested by a peace officer or other authority".
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u/KindaFatBatman Jul 10 '22
Assuming the ban, or "freeze" bill is passed, will we be able to shoot handguns that we own? Or will it be the same with no prohib semi auto rifles
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 10 '22
There is no way to predict what petty stupidity the government will be up to.
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u/kingair250 Jul 03 '22
Brought forward from last week:
What's everyone waiting for transfers in Alberta? I ordered a restricted on June 1st, still waiting. Called the gun shop, they said no word from the RCMP, keep waiting essentially. I've tried calling the CFO about 25 times over the last few weeks, but no luck getting through.
I already own restricted firearms and have an ATT. No mail from RCMP.
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u/The_Crover Jul 03 '22
I had 3 handguns purchased from businesses the day after the announcement transfered to me roughly a week and a half after.
The story is different for my friend who also purchased a handgun day of the announcement. The store he bought them from admitted they dropped the ball and didn't put the transfer through until the Satuday after the announcement, and he still hasn't gotten his transfer back.
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u/CaptRustyShackleford Jul 04 '22
I registered a pistol I found in my grandfather’s things back in December. The portal says the initial review is done and that they will call if they need anything. It’s said that since March. When should I call?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 05 '22
One month after registration.
Did you have to take the gun to a verifier?
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u/Jasbirion Jul 04 '22
Hi Friends, newb question from BC resident here...sorry if this has been answered before...here goes..
I finally got my registration paperwork for my pistols. Super excited to take them to the range.
Should I be completing a ATT to take them to the range? I'm going there and back, not even stopping at Timmy Ho's for coffee.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 05 '22
Reasonably Direct is the wording of the law, is it reasonable to stop at a gas station, restaurant, or motel on a long journey?
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Jul 05 '22
Apparently they had an issue with one of the card printers breaking down, so the printing of new cards is being delayed. Some people have been told it may take 4-6 weeks instead of the normal 2 weeks to receive the card.
I am at 2 weeks exactly since my license was issued, and I also have not received the card in the mail yet.
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u/Scopequest Jul 05 '22
You submitted about 1 month ago, if everything was running well I'd say 1 month is on the faster end, so it doesn't sound out of the ordinary yet.
Now that it shows renewed there is nothing you can do but wait for it to get to you. Give it 2 weeks for the mail to get to you. If it doesn't show then call it in as missing
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Jul 07 '22
Anyone buy a restricted from Cabela's and not receive a combo for the lock?
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u/KindaFatBatman Jul 06 '22
Are we still able to purchase handguns? If so, and the transfer isn't cleared before the restrictions fall in place, will we still be able to take ownership of the gun?
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Jul 06 '22
Yes you can still purchase handguns at this point. I think everyone is assuming that any purchases that are in progress (have a transfer number already) would still be allowed to go through if they haven't already been completed by the time the freeze comes into effect. I guess the million dollar question is whether or not that is true, or will the RCMP reject pending transfers as soon as the law passes.
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u/djdirtyshawa1976 Jul 07 '22
Finally... Ontario update.
Received Dec 14/21
Cc Charge Jan 27/22
Called Rcmp April/22 stated at CFO
Called CFO early May/22 in line no timetable
Emailed MP June 21st said nothing they could do.
MP called asking for application number and information on Monday.
Licence issued today.
Hopefully anyone that has been this long their MP will help them like they did me .