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Weekly Newbies Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions
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u/canucktobian19 trading feet pics for ammo May 03 '21
Hey all, should i be alright to order attachments in prep for my pal arrival? Just some mags, optics, a grip, etc. Already bought a bolt catch/release but i wanted to double check.
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist May 03 '21
Definitely.
Big-name retailers wouldn't do something illegal (Home Depot selling switchblades notwithstanding) so if they don't ask for your PAL, you're good to go.
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 04 '21
I ordered a cheap Optic, grip and stock for my GSG-16 in preparation, I also bought a gun cabinet/safe.
I am 99.9% sure I'm going to get it, but I bought stuff that I know I can refund or sell for a profit or what I bought at just in case. Everything else I'm waiting for.
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u/rus-shackleford May 05 '21
Looking for recommendations for range/clubs in southern Ontario that potentially have a decent range to shoot on for longer range/precision? I’m aware of the ORA but they’re strictly competition structured. Thanks in advance
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u/Good2bDone May 05 '21
Ontario Timeline - Restricted & Non-Restricted
Book Training: August 28/2020
Training October: 16-18/2020
Ontario CFO stamped docs in hand: December 02/2020
RCMP received documents: December 23/2020
Credit card charged: April 15/2021
License in hand May: 04/2021
Total process time: 8 months 7 days
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May 07 '21
how do you know when the RCMP received your documents? I sent mine by mail. No tracking number.
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist May 06 '21
LOL, just ordered 1000 rounds of 9mm. Don't even have anything to shoot it with yet. :)
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 06 '21
Buy it cheap, stack it deep 😉 what ammo did you buy and for how much?
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist May 06 '21
CCI Blazer 9mm FMJ Aluminum. 1000 rounds for $289.
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 06 '21
Sweet, I’ve been working my way through some steel case stuff I got 220$ for 1000$ of Winchester USA forged
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u/_Connor May 08 '21
Posted my application February 15th and my CC got charged on Thursday.
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u/Bond4141 Saskatchewan May 03 '21
Going to buy a gun off Gunpost from another province. He'll have to mail it, what's the right way to do it? It's a restricted pistol, so it'll have to go through the CFO and whatnot.
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 03 '21
I asked this question a couple threads ago and the gist I got was this.
1: One of you call the CFO/CFP to set up a transfer, and get the transfer number. The other person calls confirming the transfer.
2: Payment happens. From here you have to wait for the transfer to be approved and to receive the paperwork.
3: Once approved the seller will ship the firearm and now its yours.
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u/ggdrguy May 03 '21
If we knew when it would stop, there wouldn't be a shortage... Depending on what you are looking for there are always restocking and used, just need to stay on the forums and used sites. Anything specific? I might be able to guide you somewhere 🤷♂️
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u/canucktobian19 trading feet pics for ammo May 04 '21
Considering either a savage rifle in 30-06 or .300winchester for deer and such, ive looked into a lot of the ballistics, but would anyone suggest one over the other for overall practicality? I would like to try my hand at 1000+ yards shooting eventually. Grew up using a .243 but I wanted something more.
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u/mogulrider1 May 04 '21 edited May 04 '21
Recoil equals accuracy. We use 243s and 350 legends for deer. 30-06 is over-gunned for deer. It's not necessary.
We use 6.5 creedmoors for deer hunting at longer distances. (When we field hunt over 250yds). Also, 6.5 creedmoor is the long distance shooter choice these days. I cant count the number of gut shot and wounded deer we've found over the years. If you hunt be ethical. The last year we used 350 Legend and its amazingly accurate and extremely light recoil.
Your accuracy will be less with higher caliber rifles. If you chose a large caliber rifle like 30-06 and such, drop your bullet weight to help lighten recoil and increase your accuracy. Recoil does matter in accuracy. Just because your buddies use them doesn't make them right. The rifle needs to fit you - not them. Just my experience and opinion
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u/canucktobian19 trading feet pics for ammo May 04 '21
Already decided, thanks for the opinion anyways.
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u/canucktobian19 trading feet pics for ammo May 04 '21
And on a side note, are the scopes sold with the savage rifles any good?
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May 04 '21
My opinion, deer don’t need 30-06. So depending on what your “as such” is, maybe consider a faster caliber. Many hunters love .270win.
If your looking at 1000 yards, the current general consensus is 6.5mm Creedmoore. 30-06 definitely is not a 1000m caliber.
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u/canucktobian19 trading feet pics for ammo May 04 '21
Thanks, but im set on at least a 30-06, few friends use them and as long as you place your shots good with good cartridges, it always turns out quite nice. My “and such” is for when i decide to pick up some larger animals such as moose, elk, and blackbear etc. Really dont want to get too many rifles before im moved into my own place. 6.5 will have to wait, ill be doing long range on a budget for a while.
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May 04 '21
30-06 seems like a good choice if you may go after elk, moose,or bear. .308 would be a good idea too. It has better options for lower cost plunking, and hunting rounds are almost identical to 30-06, plus’s better for long range.
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u/ri7ani sic semper tyrannis May 07 '21
beretta 92s, is the lower aluminium????
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 07 '21
Yep, the frame is aluminum on the surplus guns
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u/Geddy_Lees_Nose sk May 07 '21
If you were going to buy a Lee Enfield (not sporterized) which one would you want and why? I'm just starting to look into them and not clear on which no./mk is considered best/coolest/whatever
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 08 '21
Personally I look for 2 things when looking at surplus.
1: Was it used in a battle or war?
2: Is it in pristine condition?
If it's used in a battle or war, I don't care if it's perfect, the history behind it is good enough for me. But if I find one that is in amazing condition, even if it's not in a war or battle, I would still be interested in it. Basically I just would prefer to not have a poor condition rifle that wasn't used in any war or battle. Also no matter what it has to actually be shootable.
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u/jb121902 May 08 '21
No. 4 mk 1 I believe I was using in my time as canadian ranger, my first gun I shot. She was a beautiful rifle, sighted in perfect, accurate. Furthest I shot was 400 m iron sight, groupings the size of a dinner plate. It's my mission to acquire one, when my pal gets approved.
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 08 '21
N01 mk III for the looks, n04 mk 1 for shooting (much nicer sights)
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May 02 '21 edited May 02 '21
Currently split between a gsg 16, gsg stg 44 or a 10/22. I really like the 10/22 but i don't want to spend the $80 on a magazine adapter then have to find mags so im not limited to 10 rounds. Anyone have any experience with gsg products? Going to be using it as a range toy mostly.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro May 02 '21
I really like the 10/22 but i don't want to spend the $80 on a magazine adapter
Savage A22, newer, stronger, more Canadian, often packaged with scope and 25 round magazine.
https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/fkd40j/savage_a22_review/
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u/rabaful May 02 '21
The GSG-16 is great range toy as long as you clean/lube it properly and feed it decent ammo (CCI mini mags works great). Yes it's plastic and feels cheap but the MP5 slap is just sooo fun.
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 02 '21
Stg 44 is cool but super duper heavy, I’d go with that gsg16 a 10/22 or the b22 like u/beretta_errata said
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist May 03 '21
The GSG's are fun range plinkers that look great but likely won't be as reliable as the 10/22.
Id buy a GSG as a first fun toy and invest into a 10/22 for a long term project. Lots of upgrades available for the 10/22 platform.
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u/throwa37 May 04 '21
The 10/22 is a proven rifle, and higher quality. I get the tacticool appeal of the GSGs, but it's better to buy a good rifle from the beginning and learn how to use it, than a rifle that you buy because it looks cool but that you regret when you're more experienced. I'd recommend the 10/22, and I wouldn't even worry about having more rounds than 10 for a range toy, personally. Then, if you want to branch out into hunting later, you have a reliable tool to use. Just my two cents.
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u/Kickass_chris666 May 02 '21
Application made it in on Dec 21, visa charged April 14. Eagerly awaiting my card in the mail while looking up SKSs and cheap ammo 😁
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u/Smoking-Seaweed-81 May 02 '21
Anyone from Nova Scotia? I have been trying to book the PAL course anywhere near Halifax for 6 months and its been constantly full. Any tips or tricks?
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u/canucktobian19 trading feet pics for ammo May 03 '21
Not from nova scotia but if i were you i would try and get ahold of one of the fellers putting on the courses near you, i had a similar issue and they got me into a course pretty quickly.
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u/sour_individual May 02 '21
What's the standard for the photo for PAL application? As in, what kind of paper should it be printed on? Also, should I wait and follow the Restricted course and then ask for PAL/RPAL or can I apply for a PAL right now and later on apply for RPAL once my course is done?
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May 03 '21
If you go to a shoppers drug mart and tell them its for a PAL photo they will know the dimensions you need and print you out the right photo.
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u/pmfhhaoa May 03 '21
Go to Walmart and get a passport photo. But say you don’t need it stamped. This will be the right size and mine only charged $0.97 for two prints
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u/KrinsicFluid May 04 '21
You apply for both at the same time to save time and money. As for photo they will give you a small paper at your PAL/RPAL course with the dimensions they want and you can have it taken at any place that does passport photos. You can use regular printer paper and a at home printer but it usually does not come out clear. You can try at home with a printer, if it doesn't print clearly the cost for a passport photo is at most a few dollars.
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u/jns90 on May 03 '21
with my incoming rpal hopefully only a few weeks away I've started to get excited and buy whatever I can that doesn't require my PAL (sights, eyes & ears, snapcaps etc) and just noticed that my astigmatism makes seeing my red dot clearly with my contacts on almost impossible. I read online that holo sights seem to be better for this; I was wondering if anyone with the same problem has any suggestions?
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u/Ma3l1ch May 03 '21
A prism sight or regular scope will work for you. The dot/reticle is etched into the glass so it works with astigmatism. For red dots, see if you can try out a holosun sight. They have a few different reticle options. I have astigmatism and the dot doesn't work well for me but the circle option with a dot in the middle is usable. Some people find sights with green dots work better with astigmatism too.
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u/jns90 on May 04 '21
Thanks for the quick reply! Going to look into prism sights for sure, really appreciate it
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist May 03 '21
Buying my first red dot is how I found out that I suffered from the same stigmatism. the "dots" look like a snowflake or firework to me.
I was told the only ways to eliminate/minimize this is to use a magnified red dot, use a red dot in combination with a magnifier, or wear glasses with a regular red dot.
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u/RotoMoto89 May 03 '21
I have my PAL/RPAL courses coming up in a few weeks. Was given the handbook, all 300+ pages of it. How much of it should I know going into it?
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May 03 '21
They cover the entire thing in the course so reading ahead isn't really advantageous unless you struggle with that sort of thing. Doing a quick read of ACTS and PROVE wouldn't hurt though.
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u/ADrunkMexican May 03 '21
Not really necessary. I knew next to nothing about firearms. Although that still hasn't changed much lol.
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u/pissing_noises May 03 '21
You're going to go through it all during the course so you don't need to study too hard. I would just see what the first day is like for you then go from there.
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u/_Connor May 03 '21
None of it. It wouldn't hurt to spend maybe an hour just flipping through and familiarizing yourself but I never had the book until I showed up in the class and got 100% in the PAL course and 98% in the RPAL one. The point of the course is literally to go through that book.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro May 06 '21
ACTS, PROVE, reading chamber data from a gun, reading and identifying cartridges, and the reason 20ga shotgun shells are yellow and no other sizes are yellow.
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May 03 '21
Hello, I sent my application in on January 6th, was received on the 12th. April 28th my application shows up on the website and says that it has completed initial processing and is now in progress. The website says that the average is 45 days to process, does 45 days start from when it shows up on the website?
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u/Ma3l1ch May 03 '21
Once initial processing has completed it goes to your provinces CFO for review and final approval. This really varies based on province, some get it done in 2 weeks or so, others you could be waiting another 6 months.
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May 03 '21
I just checked mine and apparently it was charged on the 27th! I've never been so excited to pay a credit card bill
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u/Alexmmac May 03 '21
Hello every one. Does any one know of PAL courses that are taking place now around Toronto
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u/KrinsicFluid May 04 '21
Toronto is a part of Canada? Learn something new every day.
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May 04 '21
Just checked my PAL status and see that it's been issued. Took months but I'm stoked. Now to find a gun that'll fit my needs or a gun for each particular need...
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u/pissing_noises May 04 '21
The formula for the number of guns you should own is x + 1, where x represents how many you already have.
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May 04 '21
"I already had this one, babe"
"no it was used and i got it for $250"
"honey! I found this one by the train tracks!"
"I'm borrowing this one from a friend who flew to Indonesia for a few years"
"I bought this one for you"
"This one's an investment. It's value only goes up!"
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May 04 '21
Thats a formula I can get behind. The wife probably won't be happy about it but I know where to hide them until she forgets what I have 😂
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u/mmarollo May 06 '21
I got my PAL last September and I'm still trying to pay down the MasterCard. You can get carried away very easily, and guns aren't cheap.
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u/Boapers on May 04 '21
Ontario App received Jan 4th CC charged April 20th Approved April 23rd PAL in hand May 4th
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u/jns90 on May 04 '21
this is starting to make me worry.
-Received Jan 13
-Processing/Card Charged April 22
and nothing has changed online since then.
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May 05 '21
What do you mean nothing has changed online?
Is there somewhere I can go to see current status??
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May 04 '21
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u/IllustratorSuitable5 May 05 '21
Ontario? My CC just got charged today and it says completed initial processing. RPAL as well.
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u/MaritimeMatt13 May 05 '21
NOVA SCOTIA - NON RESTRICTED timeline
PAPER WORK RECEIVED - October 1st
Entered into processing system - JAN . 29 th
Licensee in hand - MAY . 4 th
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May 05 '21
So not much different than Alberta then. My application started processing on November 9 and just got issued a couple days ago. The wait times are ridiculous.
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u/Crispysnipez May 05 '21 edited May 05 '21
Best semi auto DMR style rifle?
Just wondering what your guys opinion is on the best semi automatic rifle thats available in Canada. I am looking to get a rifle that i can mount an optic on and have fast follow up shots. I would love an M14 but the horse police told me i cant have that.
Please, don’t make me bubba an sks...
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 06 '21
Just replied to another comment, these are the semi-auto rifles left.
SKS, Wk-180, Type 97, Tavor, Benelli R1, Keltec RDB, M1 Garand, Type 81s, B&T APC, M1 Carbine, M10x, SVT-40, Bar's and if you've got big money a G36 or Valmet.
Edit: and the Famae SG series
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May 05 '21
I mailed my application before my friend who lives 4 doors down from me and his card got charged last week & mine still hasn't, how screwed am I?
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u/jns90 on May 05 '21
Are you able to check the status online? It would help people who know what they're talking about in here (I'm not one of those people though) figure out whereabouts in the process you are.
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May 05 '21
I thought you couldn't until your card was charged? Or is that a myth?
Edit: I just checked and it says it was received 2021-02-09! When I checked a week or two ago nothing came up so at least I know it made it there safely
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 06 '21
I did, mine was for generalized social anxiety from from a few years. Just came off my meds and am doing well, but he wanted a doctors note. (I also never had any suicidal or thoughts of harm to anyone else ever)
My license hasn't been approved yet, but when I've called everything seems to be ok, they are just taking their sweet fucking time. I'm 8 months in now...
I also don't have a family doctor and haven't seen a therapist in over a year. I did however see the same clinic doctor a few times to get my prescriptions, and that was good enough. If you can't do that, call the CFO and ask what to do. Your therapist is extremely unethical, and I would have some legal questions about it. What the CFO can do is have you consent to share your medical history, which may be enough to clear you as there shouldn't be an reports of self harm.
Bottom line, call the CFP and ask what you should do, and tell them that your therapist would refuse to sign a doctors not because she is "very anti-gun".
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u/mmarollo May 06 '21
Yes it's worth applying. It may take a lot longer but you'll get approved if what you've described is accurate (i.e., mild depression with no history suggesting harm to self/others).
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u/Ratza7487 May 05 '21
I had previously called the RCMP line for questions related to application form. I had attached both my R/PAL and PAL and also The officer had told me the charge for both licenses is only $81.76 so thats the amount I permitted them to withdraw. I just received my license but only my non-restricted came in but not restricted?? Was the officer incorrect or do they come separate?
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u/coco0103 May 06 '21
It will tell you on the back. Non restricted and restricted and Its just one card. If both are not on the back I would call them to ask about it.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro May 06 '21
You will get a new card when you buy your first restricted firearm.
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u/Gorryman1 May 06 '21
BC Applicant Timeline:
Application received - 28th October 2020
CC charged - 19th February 2021
Application completed & Card issued - 27th April 2021
Card in hand - 5th May 2021
No references called. Total length of application process 6 months, 8 days.
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u/Temporary_Source_469 May 06 '21
Anyone get their PAL/RPAL in Ontario recently? My application arrived Nov 13, 2020, CC charged Mar 23, 45 days for processing fell on May 4th, still says in progress.
Called and was told it was at Ontario’s CFO, everything was done at the CFP.
First time applicant and I applied for an RPAL.
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u/Streetglide130 May 06 '21
RPAL app received Jan 5, visa hit April 20, card received May 3. Ontario
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u/19ajm85 May 10 '21
I would definitely call their 1-800-731-4000 number to get a status update!
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u/Temporary_Source_469 May 10 '21
So, I called, and got transferred to the Ontario CFO, and because I checked the box about mental health, the mailed me a form to get signed by a doctor. Have my appointment this Thursday, so hopefully that’s all that’s required. I was hoping to be ready for deer season this fall.
I have PTSD. It’s been 11 years since diagnoses, and 8 years since I finished treatment, I’m on a minor amount of medication.
What really bites my ass about all of this (I went to Afghanistan with the Canadian Armed Forces) is that the government seen fit to allow me to be in possession of prohibited devices and firearms after I got diagnosed between 2010 and 2015 before I retired, but now they’re not sure 🤣🤣
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u/Markiavelli98 May 07 '21
Finally sent it my R/PAL application today! Now time for the long wait. Sent Canada Expresspost with tracking. SKS or Mossberg 5890 retrograde first? I’m so excited to get started
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u/Reubenmanick May 07 '21
How long does it take for the rcmp to open your PAL application? mine was delivered on April 13th 2021
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u/Ma3l1ch May 08 '21
28 days is the minimum but expect 3-4 months for them to process your application and charge your credit card. Then it goes to your CFO for final approval (times vary from a couple of weeks to 6+ months depending on your province).
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u/_Connor May 08 '21
I mailed mine February 15th and my CC just got charged on Thursday. So that's almost 3 months from the time I mailed it to it being entered into the system.
Expect 4 months until you have the license in your hands barring any issues with the application.
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u/epicamytime May 12 '21
Monday was the 8 month anniversary of them receiving my application. I don’t have my card yet.
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u/Ma3l1ch May 07 '21
BC Timeline Update:
Application received September 15th 2020.
Processed Jan 8th and sent to BC CFO.
Approved May 7th 2021 (just under 8 months total).
I was calling the RCMP every month since February for an update and told to just wait, finally approved, references not called. My wife's license was approved back in February, no idea why mine took longer (both sent off at the same time, processed same day).
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 08 '21
I'm just over 8 months in BC. I called last week and he said it's just a final background check and approval from the head CFO guy. I'm going to call again next week because it's just ridiculous. I have no criminal record or medical record that would prohibit me, they talked to my reference and it went well, and they got a doctors note that confirmed I am a-ok to have firearms.
What was the last reason he said to you on your last call?
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u/Ma3l1ch May 08 '21
Sorry to hear you're still waiting for your license, that really sucks :( Last call was in April and they just said everything looked good, was in the final stages and to be patient. They said to call back in May if I hadn't heard anything. I had a problem with my application where someone at the RCMP kept changing my address on file for reasons unknown, I think that slowed things down. Eventually I asked them to add a note to my file to please stop changing my address, the one on file is correct (was different each time I called them).
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u/coco0103 May 08 '21
So if people are wondering whats going on with their applications.
I was informed that the processing site in Miramichi is working on applications at the moment from the end of February and beginning of March. If your application is missing something or something is unclear they would normally call or send a notice, but they have been told not to do that. Because of their back log they are trying to just get the applications in the system, because as of June 1st if an application has been sitting there for over 35 days you are entitled to a refund. A new law that was passed. And apparently they are putting the applications that are missing something to another que and it will be sitting there for months until they clear the backlog and waiting for them to send out a notice or to call. Its not good service at all. And its coming from their superiors in Ottawa. People need to start contacting their MP's and complaining about the process that they are doing.
Just a heads up on whats happening there.
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u/IllustratorSuitable5 May 08 '21
Do you know if this also applies to people who checked one of the extremely vague boxes and had to send in an extra sheet?
Gonna call on Monday and find out anyways.
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u/literallygabe May 02 '21
Anybody have recent experience with BC transfer times? Bought a new restricted on friday.
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u/Ma3l1ch May 03 '21
About 1-2 weeks for the transfer, about 3-4 weeks for the registration certificate to turn up.
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u/literallygabe May 04 '21
Ended up being only one day, transfer submitted yesterday, transfer confirmation this morning.
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u/Ma3l1ch May 04 '21
Nice! I transferred a restricted at the beginning of last month and it took about a week for the transfer to be approved and about 3 weeks after that for the registration certificate to arrive.
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u/GentlemanBasterd May 02 '21
Looking at a map of my municipality and I see some blocks of patented crown land near me, cant seem to find a straight answer what the difference is and if I can target shoot there or not?
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May 02 '21
According to google, a Crown Patent is a legal document that transfers land from the crown to a private owner. So I would imagine patented crown land is land that is owned by someone. Which means you would need their permission to shoot on their land. Barring municipal firearm discharge laws of course.
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u/GentlemanBasterd May 02 '21
After find out more about how to use the Atlas I've found it is a general use area of crown land belonging to the peterborough region or something, it says it allows fishing and hunting.
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u/Agent_1812 https://youtu.be/mrAwb9ptu9U May 02 '21
Each province appears to curate its own crown land atlas
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u/WildEnd3 May 02 '21
FYI. Ontario transfer time is down to 3 days. Transfer submitted on 28th, received call from the gun store on 30th.
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist May 03 '21
Yeah Ontario was surprisingly quick. I kept hearing of these 6month+ horror stories earlier this year but only had to wait 1 week for mine to arrive.
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May 02 '21 edited May 03 '21
Sent my application in early February, Ontario resident. The wait is absolutely killing me. Sent it in with a certified cheque so idk when they got it.
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u/1337group May 03 '21
Mine was sent Jan. 27 in ON and my card got charged last Thursday. I wouldn’t be surprised if you see the charge go through this week.
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u/19ajm85 May 05 '21
They are working on applications rec’d near the end of February so there is a great chance they have processed your application. You can check online on the rcmp website
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u/_Connor May 03 '21
Quick question about phoning in to check on my application. I mailed it in mid-February but my credit card that I used on it is expiring in June, and TD sent me a new one already but I haven't activated it yet. I want to use that as an excuse to call in and check the status of my application and see if I can hurry them along by saying my CC is due to possibly expire before they charge it.
Who do I actually call? Is it the Canadian Firearms Program from the from of the PAL booklet?
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 03 '21
Ya call the CFP. It's been well past the wait time so just call and tell them you need to update the CC on your application. It may actually go through faster because of that, but it's not guaranteed.
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u/19ajm85 May 05 '21
I was told they are now processing PALs received the end of February so your card should be processed now.
Number to call 1-800-731-4000
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u/_Connor May 05 '21
I called them on Monday and the guy I spoke to said they were 'not quite at February yet' so hopefully you're right! I posted mine mid-February so they probably received it third or fourth week.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro May 06 '21
The bank will honour the credit card charges, they don't get scammed by the CFP too often.
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u/xboxaddict40 May 03 '21
Hello, I have two questions. I just bought a Type 81. It shoots the 7.62x39 round. I know it is too big to hunt with in SW Ontario.
1) Can I go to crown land and shoot targets with it in SW Ontario without getting in trouble? All the ranges are closed to non members right now.
2) Can anyone recommend a spot within a few hours drive of SW Ontario that is secluded, wide open and I'm not going to disturb any turkey hunters? I'm looking to try it out for a couple of hundred yards. If you feel more comfortable you can pm me.
Thanks in advance!
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 04 '21
I can't answer 2, but I can answer 1.
It's NR which means you can go wherever there is crown land, and where the municipality has not said it's not unavailable to shoot in.
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u/throwa37 May 04 '21
I know it is too big to hunt with in SW Ontario.
Say what? Any centrefire cartridge is good to go in Ontario, for deer anyway.
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u/mogulrider1 May 04 '21
My son uses a Ruger ranch rifle in that caliber. Its great. That caliber will work on deer fine under 200yds or so.
Most deer are taken far less than distance. It'll shoot under 2 MOA.
It also lets him use the bullets in his other rifles in caliber. The bolt action will be much more accurate than a semi.
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u/MrOwnageQc qb May 04 '21
Hey all, I've been researching Crown Land in Quebec. Ontario seems to have this great tool to find out exactly where you can legally shoot.
However, it seems like the threads that I have gone through are nearly all 3-4+ years old and don't really have any useful information.
I found a tool offered by Quebec that's shows a map of various things, but it doesn't seem to show anything about shooting.
Now that we are in 2021, are there updated laws/rules about this or some useful tools to help us out ?
Thanks ! :)
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May 05 '21
Hey guys, so about 8 months ago I posted on here asking if I would get approved or denied with having charges that were stayed and dropped 4 years ago. well myself and my girlfriend sent are paperwork in at the same time and they were both received on the same date, she ended up getting approved for her PAL. Hers came in the mail about the first week of March and mine still says it's "completed initial processing. It is now in progress" I understand that they will more than likely investigate my situation from years ago but i wanted to reach out and see if there is a way to contact the CFO about this, I've called the number on the RCMP website god only knows how many times and it's the same thing every time "sometimes it just takes longer" so if someone could help me out with a number or an email that would be greatly appreciated. I live in Saskatchewan by the way and I dont know if we have are own CFO or not or how to reach them. Sorry for the long post but any info is appreciated!!!
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u/coco0103 May 05 '21
If you call the main call centre at 1-800-731-4000 ask them to transfer you to CFO Saskatchewan. Even ask them for the extension number so that you can call them directly without having to go through the main line.
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May 05 '21
If you didn't get a stain in your record and have no previous convictions you're probably good to go.
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u/Picklefriedegg May 05 '21
I plan to travel to another residence that I am not registered to and then travel to and from the range from there for a couple days. Do I need to get a specific ATT or am I legal to transport and store my guns at that house?
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u/JoeRogansSauna May 05 '21
Does anyone know why this SBI mag adapter doesn’t fit the tactical 10/22s?? Doesn’t it use the same “BX-1” 10 round mags? I figured if it use the same mags it could use the same adapter?
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 06 '21
It’s probably because the tactical models are designed for the bx25 and the have a very deep mag well, you need to have access just below the reciever to use the new mag release on it and you won’t be able to hit it
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May 05 '21
Thoughts on the Ruger American Ranch in 5.56? Gonna buy my first rifle in a couple weeks and I'm just wondering if this is a good buy. I like the idea of the detachable AR magazines but know nothing else about these guns. Reviews seem mixed.
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u/pissing_noises May 05 '21
Ruger American is a great line of rifles so no issues there. A complaint I have heard is that the finish scratches easily but that's it.
The Ranch model won't work with aftermarket chassis like Magpul or MDT. The action will fit, but you won't be able to find magazines that will feed properly afterwards.
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u/mmarollo May 06 '21
I have one but haven't fired it yet. Action doesn't feel that great. They jam a lot from what I've seen on YouTube.
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u/NoNamesAreLefttt May 05 '21
Any good ideas for post-ban semi autos?
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 06 '21 edited May 06 '21
In rifle calibers, SKS, Wk-180, Type 97, Tavor, Benelli R1, Keltec RDB, M1 Garand, Type 81s, B&T APC, M1 Carbine, M10x, and if you've got big money a G36 or Valmet.
That's about it as far as I can remember. The M1 Carbine's and SKS's are the cheapest, and can be found for under $700. Everything else is $1200+.
Edit: Also SVT-40, BAR's, Famae SG series
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u/mmarollo May 06 '21
Kodiak WK180C. Takes AR mags.
You really don't have much choice any more. There are some really expensive guns, and stuff like the Norinco, but not a lot otherwise.
My WK180C has been fine so far, though they're not the most reliable guns ever made.
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u/sjs8415 May 05 '21
AB, Application received Feb 10, CC Charged May 03, Called in today and heard everything is in order- just scanning my photo to print my card. Nice.
Now wondering where would be a good online retailer to buy SKS and tuna cans. Any suggestions?
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u/Due-Sir-3063 May 05 '21
Hello I just got a call from a RCMP officer saying he was approving me for my non restricted...how long now till I resive my pal card
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u/Due-Sir-3063 May 05 '21
Hey I'm new and was just arrived for my pal lic how long should it take to come in mail JW....
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u/Saya_Hina May 06 '21
Anyone know when stores usually have a sale? New RPAL and want to purchase my first firearm :)
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May 06 '21
Just got my RPAL today.
Sent in application in Jan 3rd Got CC Charged on April 22nd Got licence in the mail today May 5th.
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u/coco0103 May 06 '21
I would call just to see if anything is missing. 1-800-731-4000 is the main call centre. They can tell you.
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u/Edven971 May 06 '21 edited May 06 '21
There are X95 At pistol grips in stock in Canada
If someone were to buy one in Canada, would it be legal to ship it to the US?
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u/MajorCocknBalls May 06 '21
I mean I just bought lok grips online and they come from the US so I'd imagine that's legal
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u/Saya_Hina May 07 '21
To purchase a restricted Firearm on Cabela's It says I need to be part of a gun club (I have to input a Gun club membership number and such). I'm not in any gun club yet and I live in Ottawa. From what I understand, in Ontario you don't have to be part of a Gun club to purchase a firearm? Anyone have any ideas?
I want to purchase a Canik TP9SFx 9mm.
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 07 '21
In every other province it is required, because cabelas is a national brand they probably just keep it the same for the website, if you go in person to the store you’ll probably be fine, you could also try a retailer that’s in Ontario. I know marstar has all the colours of the SFX
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May 08 '21
What province? Ontario you don’t. Alberta, I have been told by the Minister of Justin’s office that “drop in” range use is acceptable. You could call your CFO office and ask about that.
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u/iFuckedJoeMamaLMAO May 07 '21
If the ammo is locked I don’t see how it’s readily accessible.
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u/pissing_noises May 07 '21
It means they get to decide if it's dry or if there's KY when they fuck you.
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u/Boulette77 qb May 07 '21
had to send a paper stamped by my local police station comfirming my adress, sent and received by the rcmp, how long do I have to wait? cc was charged about two weeks ago and had to change my residential adress as well.
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u/jb121902 May 07 '21 edited May 07 '21
Sent RPAL and Pal feb. 10 Received date feb 19 May 7 application reviewed Bc application Now hurry up and wait
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u/Ma3l1ch May 07 '21
There’s left handed bullpups available if you prefer. The Tavor 7 and X95 can be switched to left handed (need a left handed bolt for the X95), and the Keltec RDB is ambidextrous (ejects downwards).
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u/Tealife2020 May 08 '21
I have a question for those who own a APC 223. Since it's the upper receiver is aluminum, which bore brush is safer to use the nylon or bronze? I also plan to get the Lucas bore solvent which removes copper and carbon deposits. I heard that that the bronze brush is great for carbon and fouling but isnt ideal for copper removal solvents...
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u/Georgekicksass May 08 '21
Hey wondering if anyone knows the status of a Tavor 21 or Bushmaster ACR. I have the opportunity to buy both from a coworker. Just not sure if they got prohibited by the ban last year. Or if they are still classified as non restricted or restricted. If anyone knows what these are classified as that would be awesome.
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 08 '21
The are still legal to own. If you ever have any doubts, just go to armalytics.ca and search for the gun to see its status.
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u/RyanTheRooster May 08 '21
Im just double checking, since this is the 2nd Restricted I bought, but when you get the Transfer Notification, you can take the Restricted Firearm home correct? I got something special that when I'm allowed to take it home, I'll show you guys, but i got the Transfer Notification literally the day after I bought it from the RCMP, and I forget if I need anything else, because it seemed to easy. The first time i bought one i had to wait a little under 2 weeks. though I know part of that had to do with me buying a restricted for the first time. I was told every other time it might be shorter but I wasn't expecting it to be THAT short.
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u/RotoMoto89 May 09 '21
Hey everyone, I have a few questions in regards to PAL/RPAL applications. I'm in Alberta. So I just did my PAL course and passed the tests. Got my results right after which was nice. I now have my RPAL course in two weeks. Let's assume I pass those tests too and I also assume I'll get my results the same day like I did for the PAL course.
It's fine to mail both the PAL and RPAL application in one letter right?
Can I use the same set of references for both the PAL and RPAL application?
For the photo, after searching, around a Passport style photo from Shoppers should do the trick right? No idea if they have a PAL/RPAL-specific photo. I assume just one photo will work for both applications. And could I get one of those references above to also sign the back of the photo? Or does that need to be a different person?
Is there a time limit on when I need to send in my application? I guess another way to ask is, do these results ever expire? I should be done everything and be ready to submit by end of this month. The thing is, I'm planning to move houses in July as well as planning a change in credit card (current one expires next month in June so that throws another wrench into the equation). Would it be best to just wait until these changes are done before mailing my application with the most up to date info?
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 09 '21
I think I went to London drugs and the machine they used had a preset for different ID’s, various passports and a pal specific one
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 09 '21 edited May 09 '21
I found a used 10/22 with an archangel nomad stock for $450, has anyone had any experience with these? I love the look of the G36, but don't have $6000+ to spend on anything. What is the deal with the mags, are they subject to the same BS that other 10/22's are? Could I legally import these, if not those, what about the 10 round version?
Edit: Yes the mags are and I found some 10 rounders in Canada.
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u/Toolbox234 May 09 '21
Why is the lee metford not an antique status rifle ? it was designed before 1899 I don’t know why it bothers me but it does !!
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u/_Connor May 03 '21
In case anyone’s looking for a timeline, I called the CFP today and the guy said they’re not quite at February applications yet. So I’m guessing they’re currently processing the mid-late January applications.