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Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions
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u/Great_WhiteHunter Aug 22 '22 edited Aug 22 '22
Since you’ll likely need to call multiple times before getting through, a little tip I found helpful is that you can save the restricted transfers number as a contact, and then program the extension in to be dialed automatically.
On an iPhone for example * Open the contact app * Tap + * Enter a valid name like “CFP Transfers” * Tap “add phone” * Type 1-800-731-4000 * Tap “+*#” in the bottom left of the keypad * Tap “pause” * Type “142” * Tap “Done” in the top right
Now when you dial this contact you only need to tap once instead of dialing, switching to the keypad and entering the extension numbers. This saves 4 button presses each time which really adds up and gets tedious if you’re calling 100+ times.
Hope this helps!
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Aug 26 '22 edited Aug 26 '22
PAL Timeline for Ontario 2022
Mailed: March 21st
Received: March 29th
CC Charged: June 24th
Issued: August 26th
I called the ONCFO today. They told me my application still had to be assigned to an officer. It's been 5 months so I was pretty upset to hear that, I asked her if she could look over it to make sure I didn't miss anything, she scanned it and noticed that I was upgrading from a minors to an adult. As soon as she saw that, she told me she would email an officer right away because it would be easy to approve. We ended the call. I checked the status half an hour later and my license was issued! I was so surprised!!
I can't wait to have my first firearms!
Edit: forgot to mention some bad news. The girl from the CFO told me that average wait times for brand new PAL approvals are 9 months in Ontario. Mine was apparently sped up because I was simply making an upgrade.
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Aug 23 '22
WHY IS THE RCMP FIREARMS PHONE LINE SO GARBAGE?!?!!!!
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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Aug 24 '22 edited Aug 24 '22
Doesn't help when everybody is calling in for a status update on their pending transfers or license applications lol. As much as the line seems under-staffed, gun owners are equally the issue.
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Aug 26 '22
Just logged in and got the message!! I've been approved and license will be in the mail
Application was received 25 Feb, initial review was 20 May, 26 August I checked and it's approved. I'm in Ontario.
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u/TheGreatFilth Aug 21 '22
I applied for my PAL 2021-09-20 and I have still not received anything about it. Online it says the initial review of my application is complete and to check back at a later date. I guess my question is what the heck is taking so long
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u/Oilmoneyy Aug 21 '22
I would 100% call about that. There might be discrepancies. I submitted my pal on sep 26 2021 and got it by beginning of Nov
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u/IsopodEnjoyer Aug 22 '22
Ontario pal timeline
Sent to RCMP April 21st
Received April 21st
CC charged/initial review July 29th
Approved and shipped today! August 22
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Aug 23 '22
To use the words of another user, congrats and fuck you lmao, my application was received 2 months before yours and no update yet
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u/TheMilkyEh Aug 22 '22
Congratulations on getting it done! Time to blow all your money on boom sticks!
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u/Straight_Bad_1217 Aug 21 '22
I recently purchased a Husqvarna M96 chambered in 9.3 X57. Now I just gotta find ammo for it. Any help Is appreciated thanks in advance
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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Aug 21 '22
I'm in the same boat but looking for 6.5x55 Swede.
From my searches 9.3x57 is hard to come by.
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Aug 24 '22 edited Sep 27 '22
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Aug 24 '22
I’m from early January and still nothing, seems like the calls and e-mails don’t help the process atol! Although one guy said he emailed and a few days later his was approved
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Aug 25 '22
How is the phone line experiencing higher than normal call volume the second it opens? I called at 8:59:55
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u/LePapaPapSmear Aug 25 '22
Me and you both friend. Called just before it hit 9 and immediately stuck waiting.
Can't wait for it to disconnect me in 10 minutes and hang up every single time I try for the rest of the day
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u/Superxt0aster bc Aug 25 '22
I called at 9:05 AM and it said they were closed.
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Aug 25 '22
Well after 35 minutes they were transferring me to an agent with the transfer tone playing and then it said I’m sorry we having a system problem for about 2 minutes after which I heard several dial tones and it hung up. Lovely. I wonder if they have orders to drag their feet
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Aug 25 '22
Just got through to the RCMP if anyone submitted a new application in August, they told me it would be atleast 2 months before it is in the system. Hope that helps. RIP my dream of owning a 1911
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u/InevitableFly Aug 21 '22
Got my rpal two weeks ago and made two different purchases. With the given backlog, what is the next step I’m waiting for? I know I’ll be given a transfer number. Does this come from the store or the rcmp?
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u/TehGunky Commie milsurp fan Aug 21 '22
The RCMP will email you a Buyer Transfer Notification, and they email the store a Seller Transfer Notification. The store may contact you when they receive their Seller Transfer Notification letting you know the firearm is ready to be picked up.
If you want to check on the status of your transfer, you can contact the seller and ask for the reference number on their transfer application, and then you can call your CFO with that number to check the status. I would advise against this - in Ontario, the CFO is overwhelmed and months behind on transfers. We were told during our range and store inspection that the office has a very small staff that normally processes about 60 transfers per day. They received about 20,000 transfer requests in about 10 days, which is over a year's worth. Currently, they are "all hands on deck" and able to process up to around 300 per day, but even at that level, if they are hitting that max number every day, would require over 60 business days (Monday - Friday, so 12 weeks/3 months) minimum to process the transfers just from the first 2 weeks of June.
You will spend hours trying to get through on the phone, and if you can manage to get through, will be told something along the lines of "we're working on it, it will be a few weeks."
When you get your transfer, you can take the gun home. You won't be able to take it to the range to shoot until you get your new updated RPAL with ATT conditions attached (your current license does not have these conditions attached, the ATT is issued when you register your first Restricted firearm), and the Registration Certificate for your firearm. These will come after you receive the transfer, and I couldn't even begin to guess how long that will take right now.
tl;dr - If you're in Ontario, your next step is monk-like patience.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 21 '22
The store should have provided the reference numbers for the transfers. Now you just wait. Two months+ for me so far. Then the CFP will email you the info and tell you to go pick up the gun.
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u/_Connor Aug 21 '22
You won't necessarily 'be given' the transfer number. It's not part of the official process and it varies from shop to shop whether they'll send it unsolicited.
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u/MLI691H Aug 21 '22
28 days PAL/RPAL mandatory waiting period done. Now it will sit there for another few months to be processed, fun times.
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Aug 22 '22
Regular applications are taking 3 months for the credit card to be charged after receiving the application, the 28 days is counted in it.
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u/TheChroniclesOfTaint Aug 21 '22
Anyone know a good source for Glock OEM parts (Gen 5 specifically) in Canada, or Does glock ship to Canada? Looking specifically for a barrel(s) / recoil springs & some other bits n bobs.
Thanks for the help!
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Aug 21 '22
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Aug 21 '22
Ontario, 6 months and nothing.
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u/OmegaDawn_ Aug 22 '22
I feel like they are slowing the process on purpose. The duration of time that has passed from the time I completed my CFSC/CRFSC until now which is “initial review completed” message is really absurd. And it’s sad there’s no recourse, they can just make us wait and wait and wait. Ontario CFO
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u/Grimmerthan Aug 21 '22
There's no 10 month backlog. Mine was in on 04/11, started 07/11, and approved 07/26.
It's reasonable to believe something else is going on, and whoever answered the phone didn't want to dig into it and gave you an easy answer.
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u/ggghosted Aug 21 '22
Anyone in Ontario recieve anything yet? Ordered June 3rd.
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u/SpudsnGuns Aug 22 '22
I'm in the same boat, ordered June 3rd and June 10th, haven't heard anything.
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u/whenshithawksfly Aug 22 '22 edited Aug 22 '22
May 31st here, jack squat.
Scratch that! Just recieved notification of shipment today!! WOO
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u/Western-Garage4193 Aug 22 '22
Ordered June 1st in the afternoon. 2 month exactly approved. Shipping took a week but I get the stores are busy and the paper work came in a few days after. I was suprised to be honest.
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Aug 22 '22
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Aug 22 '22
Yeah im on over 30 days for a couple guns. My recent one was 3 days ago and i def havent heard anything so urs mustve slipped in
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u/IsopodEnjoyer Aug 22 '22
My pal was just approved and is on its way. I read that I could call and asked for my license number and expiry date sooner, but I have no idea what number that is. I'm in Ontario so if anyone knows what number I can call for that, it would be much appreciated.
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Aug 22 '22
Restricted transfer Should I email a copy of my gun range membership to my CFO to help speed up the process? BC & first time restricted owner too.
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u/Vearo nb Aug 23 '22
FYI Type 81 Rifles are back in stock at Tactical Imports for $1200.
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Aug 23 '22
Why did the SE foldable stock sell out before the SE OR one? Is there something I’m missing?
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u/ivegotabigonetucked Aug 23 '22
Majority doesnt want threaded pins sticking out of their rifle, optic plate not included and hard to come by
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u/Whatsappshitter Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22
Just a word of warning to everyone.. TRIPLE CHECK YOUR APPLICATION!! I forgot to fill out my place of birth. My CC was charged on july 20th, i didnt end up mailing the missing info back to them until Aug 10th. Just phoned the rcmp and was told theyre still working on return mail from may.. so that sets me back about 3 more months RIP
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Aug 23 '22
You should have emailed your cfo I sent a photo of my missing certificate and she forwarded it via email to CPS (Central processing site)
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u/ZachPaj Aug 23 '22
Is there any way to actually reach a live agent at the RCMP toll free number? Every single day I call I get the automated message that they cannot take calls at this time, even if I call as soon as they open. Is there any direct extensions I can use or alternative ways to reach someone?
I tried email but it's been over 12+ business days with no response. Any advice would be appreciated.
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Aug 23 '22
I called from 9 am to 330 pm finally got through. It's not impossible. Just not easy. I've been on hold for 40 minutes then they hang up on you. It sucks. But keep trying and you'll get through
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Aug 23 '22
I called 9am to 5pm today. Got hung up on maybe 10 times. Got through once but then the automated message said they're having technical difficulties. The rest of the time I got the automated message saying to call back later
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u/Ornery-Chest-7394 Aug 26 '22
Ordered May 30th finally recieved my transfer today in Ontario. Hallelujah!
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u/eawlot3000 Aug 21 '22
Is this the biggest canada's firearms subreddit? am i on the right way? btw im a international student(20yo) in canada, can i buy a gun legally?
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u/TSYH_06 Aug 21 '22
I'm also an international student. The process the almost the same as a Canadian citizen, but you will need a background check from the police of your domicile when applying for PAL.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 21 '22
Once you take the CFSC and/or CRFSC and apply for your PAL or rPAL, yes you will be able to purchase a gun in 6 or 8 months. You will need references for that application as well.
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u/ConfidenceVast9 Aug 21 '22
does a restricted only PAL exist? the reason why I am asking is because in the application form In section J I have to select what kind off license I want depending on what type of weapons I will be buying. I plan on buying both kinds. but in the section right after I have to state that I accept the canadian firearms program charging my CC for the amount not amountS chosen earlier (in section J)
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u/_Connor Aug 21 '22
Many people think it's two different licenses, it's not.
The only license is the possession and acquisition license (PAL). If you do the restricted course, you get a restricted endorsement placed on your PAL.
People just say PAL and RPAL because it's the easiest way to differentiate what endorsements you're talking about.
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u/Scopequest Aug 21 '22
No.
You get a pal and you can have the restricted endorsement, and if you get that we can it and rpal.
A pal with restricted endorsement (rpal) is 83 dollars. A pal without restricted endorsement is 62 dollars. It's one or the other.
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u/ebootdotbin Aug 21 '22
What happens if you change addresses while waiting for your pal? Do you need to start all over waiting?
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u/MayorMcCheese92 Aug 21 '22
I didnt, I moved and forgot about it and my provincial CFO emailed me, as I had moved and my phone number changed. He just took down my new address and phone number and approved my licences, great guy.
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u/ConfidenceVast9 Aug 21 '22
should I send my PAL application with registered mail?
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u/Grimmerthan Aug 21 '22
I did, so that I could know the exact date it reached them. Same with using a CC for payment.
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u/KYJellyBean Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22
First handgun, should I pick up the Smith&Wesson M&P9 or the CZ P10 F?
For the M&P9, is it better to get optic ready ($1200), red dot ($1300) or the Range kit ($1100)?
Or a Glock 17 Gen 3?
Thanks!
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u/Kridane Aug 21 '22
Both are great, flip a coin.
My personal choice would be m&p9 because the grip feels great in my hands and there are shitloads of parts available.
It's always better to get the optic ready just incase you want a red-dot down the road, a custom optics cut will run you hundreds of dollars.
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u/Melot9145 Aug 22 '22
So I just did my non restricted course and just mailed my documents today. What is the timeline I will be expecting to get my pal license?
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur Aug 22 '22
Long :/ expect 6 months if everything was filled out correctly
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u/Melot9145 Aug 22 '22
6 months… that’s a very long time and not fun. Hopefully filled everything out properly.
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur Aug 22 '22
The main thing that hangs people up is that they don’t accept Visa Debit, so if you paid by different means you should be good
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u/Melot9145 Aug 22 '22
I used Mastercard so I should be good. I’m still waiting for my new card to come in so I used my mothers, does that make a difference? We both have the same last name so I don’t see why that would be.
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Aug 22 '22
I used to have no issues getting the CFP in late July. Now, if I get finally get by the “sorry we can’t take your call message”, it holds and holds and then just drops. I don’t mind waiting for 3 hours if I have to put the phone on speaker beside me but quit tossing me out lol. It’s like the 90s with these guys amirite
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u/_Connor Aug 22 '22
What province? I’ve called Alberta twice in the last month and both times I got on hold and call answered within 30 minutes. Once at 9am once at 1:30pm. I know other people with similar experiences.
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Aug 22 '22
Anybody have that link for the crowdsourced data on the transfers with their ETA? That was golden!!!
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u/BrianGumble Aug 22 '22
If I want to sell a restricted handgun with a conversion kit (to shoot 0.22 LR), does the conversion kit also need a transfer application? When I bought the conversion kit from SFRC I never received a transfer or certification of any kind? Can I ship it concurrently with the restricted handgun with no issues?
Thank you in advance.
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube Aug 23 '22 edited Aug 23 '22
The BC CFO keeps fucking hanging up on me while I'm waiting. I've called at least 100 times today and only gotten through twice only for them to hang up. What the fuck am I supposed to do?
Edit: 4 times now, I was on hold for 30 min this last time too. I guess I just have to email I can't get through otherwise.
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Aug 23 '22
Seems like an absolute toss up on who gets through or not. I was hung up on 3-4 times after 5-25 minutes. Finally got through after a few hours of calling.
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u/jk_can_132 Aug 23 '22
Finally got through to the CFP today and updated my address. The guy said my application was sent off to the Ontario CFO. Does that mean it passed the RCMP background checks? I'm curious if I am in the clear on assuming I got my license approved assuming nothing bad with references. Would I be fairly safe to buy a safe when I find a deal?
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Aug 23 '22
This is what i got told on the phone with the RCMP:If it got sent to the CFO than you've only crossed the first stage. The CFO is the one who calls your references and OKs the application. Once they finish doing whatever they need to do, it goes back to the RCMP where they approve, print and ship the license out.
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u/GeneralBrilliant864 Aug 23 '22
Is shooting an AR15 at the range also prohibited? I kind of don’t understand because today I shot CZ Bren chambered in .223 Rem and I didn’t get the impression there is a massive difference between AR15 and Bren.
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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur Aug 23 '22
Yes it’s illegal to take your ar-15 to the range. And yes the bren and ar-15 are functionally identical, same cartridge, same magazines and similar barrel lengths
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u/ContextVegetable2621 Aug 24 '22
Hi everyone - my license was finally approved today and it said I will receive it within 2 weeks. Is it possible to obtain the information ahead of time so I can purchase a firearm now? Or do need to wait
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u/Shorinji23 Aug 24 '22
If you can get through on the phone, you could request the license # and expiry date. Might want to say it's for a range membership.
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Aug 24 '22
Which province are you in? You should call and ask for your number and expiry in order to sign up for a range membership, they should give it to you if you use that reason. If you’re in BC good luck getting through.
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u/Audizy Aug 24 '22
Current Alberta wait transfer wait times
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u/_Connor Aug 25 '22
I was almost 4 weeks into mine and they told me 10-12 more weeks so at a minimum probably 3 months
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u/bilbo79 al Aug 25 '22
I heard 5 weeks from Tundra Supply and this was about 2 weeks back
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u/TheChroniclesOfTaint Aug 25 '22
Does anyone have a good source for OEM Glock parts (17.5) in Canada, or that can be shipped to Canada? Looking for a barrel and recoil springs etc.
Does anyone have any experience with 3rd party parts like Zev / Agency / KKM? I'm trying to source parts before the inevitable happens but am having a hard time finding factory parts, and am unsure about the reliability of those brands listed.
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u/MustardTiger88 Aug 25 '22
Anyone have experience with Tactical Imports? Do I need shipping insurance for a firearm or is it something most people pass on?
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u/plughat Aug 26 '22
rpal and pal application status update. ON
Mail received feb. 18
CC charged may 10
No approval yet so emailed CFOON 2 days ago. Reply said to expect 9 month wait.
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Aug 26 '22
I’m the exact same just one month longer then you, I believe the 9 months is from the day they receive your application
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u/JoeRogansSauna Aug 27 '22
I see cabelas has a sale on the “Savage® Axis XP Bolt-Action Rifle in TrueTimber® Strata Camo”. It seems like a great deal, does anyone own this gun? Looking for reviews/opinions
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u/FedorTokarev on Aug 27 '22
The Axis rifles are decent entry level guns with lots of aftermarket stuff available
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u/ccerone12 Aug 27 '22
Rpal Timeline Ontario:
Received: May 18
Cc Charged: Aug 12
Approved and Issued: August 26
Called in yesterday to inquire whether my application was with the Ontario CFO, as the online system still said initial review, while on the phone person uploaded my photo in the system and said it was approved and issued.
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u/iiplatypusiz Aug 21 '22
Does anyone have any experience with shipping times for non restricted rifles shipping from Cabela's online? My city only has one gun shop and we're about 4 hours drive to the big city, wanted to buy a low cost deer rifle and it's about on sale for about 450 at Cabela's with free shipping and close to 700 in town for the same gun lol. I just wondered if anyone's used their online purchase and got their rifle in a timely matter or if I'm gunna go into deer season wondering where the heck is my gun I should of just ponied up and bought local or made the drive.
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u/MayorMcCheese92 Aug 21 '22
When you send your slide/gun in to a company like blackbox for example, can you just send the slide or do they need the whole firearm?
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u/s1umcr0w Aug 22 '22
I've never had to get an ATT before, anyone know how long it takes? Is same-day a possibility? Just taking a couple guns to sell on consignment so I have no idea how far in advance I need to specify the date on this ATT.
The RCMP website says you can do it over the phone calling the CFP. Do you just dictate the information to them over the phone as if you were filling out the form? Do you get the answer right then?
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u/Late-Vacation9215 Aug 22 '22
Is there a way to check for my eligibility before I send in all my forms and money? I just want to be extra sure I qualify before I send any sort of money or documents in.
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u/ggdrguy Aug 22 '22
For your pal? Is there any reason the rcmp wouldn’t want you to own a gun? If the answer is no then you are good!
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube Aug 22 '22
Is the BC CFO part of the BCGEU, are they on strike?
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u/galvzBR Aug 22 '22
I bought a handgun from a private seller, transfer was approved last Friday. Can the seller ship the pistol to me without any further documents or do I need to apply for an ATT? Basically I want to know what happens next. Thanks
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u/sh3ppard Aug 22 '22
I bought from G4C, received transfer approval last week and forwarded it to them right away. Still waiting to hear back, shouldn’t they ship it right away? Has anyone bought from them and noticed a delay between transfer approval and actual ship date?
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Aug 22 '22
They will only ship it once they have received the transfer approval from the CFO. it doesn't matter if you have. It only takes an extra day or two typically.
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Aug 22 '22
So I emailed my cfo and they said this
“ Thank you for your email. A notice is being sent out by our central processing service requesting a copy of your Canadian Restricted Firearms Safety Course certificate as only 2 copies of your Non-Restricted certificate was attached with your application. You indicated that you wanted to acquire both Non-Restricted and Restricted firearms. If this is not accurate please advise. Until we receive the information your application will be with Central Processing in Miramichi New Brunswick.”
Did they lose my restricted application? I literally don’t know how that’s possible when got charged for both restricted and non restricted and I 100% know for a fact I sent In both certificates. I’m pissed right now wtf
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Aug 22 '22
So I pulled the trigger(pun intended) on my first restricted purchases last week, both via retailers online.
Is there anything else on my end I need to do now regarding ATT paperwork or how does that work? The process has always confused me a bit with the amount of paperwork behind it.
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u/_Connor Aug 22 '22
You don’t do anything. When the transfer is approved, both you and the retailer will receive a notification email and they’ll ship it out.
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Aug 22 '22
Got it. From what I understand from a bit more digging, once the transfers are approved, I’ll be issued a new PAL with updated conditions to the licence, which will cover my ATT to and from the range, correct?
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u/_Connor Aug 22 '22
Yes. You can have your firearm in your house or even pick it up from a local gun store once the transfer is approved, but that’s the only trip you can take until you get your paperwork in the mail.
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u/sh3ppard Aug 22 '22
For BC Restricteds, advising that wait time for transfer is approx 6-7 weeks:
Purchase July 1
Transfer Approval Aug 17
Good luck!
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u/GinnAdvent Aug 23 '22
Actually, sometime you might got lucky if the new hire CFO came on board and on your transfer eight away.
Purchase July 14, Transfer approval July 16.
BC restricted as well. I suspect that was a total lucky fluke though.
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u/Spare-Basis1983 Aug 22 '22
Hey guys I am new to this community . Sent in my application for RPAL this Friday so excited however the concern I have is by the time I get around to getting my licence I guess 4-6 months , are handguns going to be banned by then ? I’m hoping this bill doesn’t go thru but figured I ask for your insight on how the next few months are going to look like and what to expect . I have always loved firearms and pretty sure I am the first one on my family to ever this close to getting one :)
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Aug 22 '22
Hey there, welcome to the family! By the time you get your license issued, it’ll more likely be after they get their bill passed and what not and handgun transfers will be a thing of the passed. Can only hope that somehow it doesn’t go through or later modified/repealed.
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u/_Connor Aug 22 '22
The overwhelmingly likely outcome is transfers will be frozen by the time you get your license.
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u/jk_can_132 Aug 22 '22
Is it impossible to get a hold of the RCMP CFP via phone? I've been trying all day and no luck at all. In hold a few times and it hangs up. I am trying to figure out my application since it's been in the same state for over 6 weeks and also update my address since I moved since I submitted it back in April.
Surely they need to hire more reps if I can't even get a hold of them in a day of constant trying. I stopped for 30 minutes for a meeting and some coffee breaks but otherwise been trying as much as I can. Phone shows pver 30 calls today alone...
Rant over... Anyone have suggestions on how to get a hold of them?
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u/voodoopriest Aug 22 '22
It took me 3 and a half weeks to finally get through to confirm a private sale.
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u/TheChroniclesOfTaint Aug 22 '22
When you call to initiate a private transfer and reach the CFO agent, are you able to add your buyer to the call to complete the transfer in that single phone call?
Basically just trying to save time by not having the buyer spend a few days trying to call.
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u/ggdrguy Aug 22 '22
Yes, lots of people have conference called a transfer since the run on handguns
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u/pats_28 Aug 22 '22
Looking to buy a browning - anyone know if they come with a warranty or are repairs gonna cost me out of pocket - thanks
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u/ktmguy83 Aug 22 '22 edited Aug 22 '22
What is everyone’s wait time so far for handguns in Ontario?I have two I ordered on June/03 and still nothing. Has anyone ordered after June/03 and received there gun or at least a shipping confirmation?
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Aug 22 '22
Pal sent in March received may 6 Was finally able to check it online in july Completed initial review Called and was told to call back in a few weeks Called back today and after hours on the phone Was told it's been sent the the cfo for final review and call back in a month if I don't receive my card. Does that mean I pretty much got approved?
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Aug 22 '22
Also it would be awesome if someone that worked there was in this group lol
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Aug 23 '22
Was told it's been sent the the cfo for final review and call back in a month if I don't receive my card.
Lmao my "initial review" notification was 20 May. It's now 3 months and nothing.
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u/KYJellyBean Aug 23 '22
Can someone recommend a good compact pistol? I ordered a Glock 17 Gen 3 and I want something else to go with it. If I plan to only own 2 pistols, is it bad to grab a Glock 19 or 48 as my second?
Other compact I looked at are the S&W M&P9 2.0 compact, Sig P365, Sig P320 compact, CZ P10 C.
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u/GinnAdvent Aug 23 '22
After reading many review, it seems Glock 19 is everyones favorite, even better if you can get Glock 19x. If 19 is not available, 48 has ton of nice reviews too.
Congrats on the G17 from PR!
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u/MustardTiger88 Aug 23 '22
Anyone have experience ordering from Tactical Imports? I just bought the Type 81 and did not opt for shipping insurance. Should I have?
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u/VisNihil Aug 24 '22
did not opt for shipping insurance
Even here in the US, the seller is responsible for getting your package to you one way or another. If they don't buy insurance, that's on them. It's part of running a business. Don't let a business tell you they're not responsible for lost or stolen packages; they are. Shipping insurance is a borderline scam at this point. If you paid with a credit card, it's easy to file a chargeback if you don't get what you paid for. It's a last resort obviously, but it's an important option. You should be able to do the same with a debit card or bank account but it's more of a hassle.
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u/MustardTiger88 Aug 24 '22
Thanks. Didn't even think about the credit card chargeback option.
P.S. Glad to see there are Americans are lurking r/canadaguns
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u/LePapaPapSmear Aug 23 '22
Bought a private sale restricted. Seller gave me the transfer number but not his RPAL information. Am I going to be screwed when tying to complete the transfer if I can't provide it?
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u/ggdrguy Aug 23 '22
I believe all I needed as a private buyer was the guys name, phone number and transfer number. I just checked my texts with them and I never got a pal number from them.
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u/conanap Aug 23 '22
got my PAL & RPAL, and ready to buy a rifle. Any case you guys can recommend for storage at home and transport? I live in an apartment, so I didn't want to get a gun safe (not planning on getting restricted any time soon)
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u/ggdrguy Aug 23 '22
Cases that you would generally transport them in(soft or some cheaper hard cases) would likely collect moisture and potentially ruin your gun. If you absolutely don’t want to get even a stack on cabinet style “safe” then I would recommend a really good case like a Nanuk and make sure to put in a few desiccant dehumidifiers.
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u/conanap Aug 23 '22
I'm actually looking at cabinets - wasn't sure if they met the definition of safe, but looks like it does. Looking at the Yukon gear ones - any idea if they're decent? Thank you!
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u/FedorTokarev on Aug 24 '22
I think it's some sort of machine gun
It would have to be deactivated to RCMP standards before being imported
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u/Butterrobot91 Aug 24 '22
When I submitted my PAL application I attached both of my CFSC and CRFSC report. But I only choose to apply for PAL on the application….anyone knows if I can call them to change that or I can just wait till next time when I have to renew the license? Thanks
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 24 '22
And wait many more months? Best of luck with the phone lines, it's totally worth an extra $5/year.
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u/DJ_Necrophilia Aug 24 '22
Just hit the 7 month mark since I submitted my renewal. License expired sometime before the summer. This is awesome
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u/justatypo Aug 24 '22 edited Aug 24 '22
I logged into this this morning:"Your application has been processed and your licence has been issued. If you have not received your licence within 2 weeks please contact the Canadian Firearms Program Toll Free number (1-800-731-4000)."
From what people were saying here I assumed they issued the license number at this point so I can do an online order? Or do I have to wait 2 more weeks for that number?
EDIT: Also, do I get the Sig P320 Carry w/o the mounting plate cut, or P320 M17 with R2 plate? (I plan on adding red dot, but I love the look of the carry.)
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Aug 24 '22
Honestly, buy whatever you can find
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u/Grimmerthan Aug 24 '22 edited Aug 24 '22
Awesome, I'm happy you've gotten this. Call them for the number and expiry date. Use that for a range membership, if needed in your province. Use these to purchase online, and get something in motion. No comment on which Sig, except I've been trying to keep optics options open.
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u/_Connor Aug 24 '22
Get what you can because you’re running out of time/options.
You can call in and get the number.
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Aug 24 '22
Can you post a timeline of your application process if you can?
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u/justatypo Aug 24 '22 edited Aug 24 '22
Yeah sure.
Received: 5/20
Processed: 8/16
Issued: 8/24
Ontario
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u/ZealousidealNews9256 Aug 24 '22
Just bought a Glock 48 and a Tokarev as my probable last handguns ever.. how long is everyone waiting for their transfers? I’m in BC.
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u/pr3ttywhenIcry Aug 24 '22
I read in another forum that it took someone in BC 1 month. I am in Ontario and the CFO is working on processing transfer applications received on June 2, 2022.
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u/VaultTec391 Aug 24 '22
I purchased two pistols in the past month. For the first one I received a CFO reference number three days later. I assume this means that the dealer has initiated the transfer with the CFO and is waiting for them to complete their end.
For the second pistol, I purchased it two weeks ago and have yet to receive a CFO reference number. I know everyone is getting slammed with all these transfers but should I be following up on this?
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u/_Connor Aug 24 '22
It’s entirely up to the discretion of the shop to send you the transfer number. It’s not an ‘official’ part of the process for them you give you the number.
Back when transfers were done in 1-2 days, there actually wasn’t even any benefit to having it.
If you’re that worried about it, call the shop and ask for it.
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u/Audizy Aug 24 '22
Start to finish explanation of the handgun transfer process please.
reading around on here it would seem that even once the transfer is approved I will still have to wait longer for the registration to come in before I can bring it to the range?
Could someone briefly explain all the steps of the process for me?
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u/FedorTokarev on Aug 25 '22
Private transfer:
You pay the seller and provide PAL information. They call their CFO to initiate the transfer. Seller gets a reference number and provides it to the buyer. Buyer calls their CFO and completes the transfer. Once it's approved the seller will be notified and they can ship or allow the buyer to pick up the firearm.
Transfer from a business:
Pay, provide PAL information. The business handles the whole transfer process and will ship once the transfer is approved
Once you receive your new firearm you need to wait for the registration certificate. You must have the registration (a photocopy is fine) with the firearm whenever it's being transported. If it's your first restricted firearm you'll also get a new PAL card in the mail, the new license has the ATT condition attached to it
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
It varies a bit by province and they are constantly changing the rules, but in a nutshell a store can ship a gun as soon as the transfer is approved. If you are picking it up you need the ownership paper.
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u/conanap Aug 25 '22
looking to slowly get into long range shooting, and I don't plan on switching guns. Would you go for a T3X CTR or a Varmint Stainless Steel (not super Varmint)? They're the same price.
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u/Redbulldildo Aug 25 '22 edited Aug 25 '22
I bought some non corrosive norinco 7.62x39. The cases look copper or copper coated, is this steel case?
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u/HemiJay_Toronto Aug 25 '22
Norinco ammo is banned at my club because the non-corrosive lead core is actually steel core.
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u/DEADxDAWN Aug 25 '22
Mine as well. Which makes ammo options for my Tok TT33 very limited
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u/Devon_AJ Aug 25 '22
Im 19 in New Brunswick and have been waiting for my RPAL/PAL for about 6 months now. How much longer should i expect to wait?
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u/Glad-Salamander-2060 Aug 26 '22
Any thoughts on the Rossi Rio Bravo? Just shooting paper but it looks like a fun rifle- plus Henry Golden Boys just seem to be non existent now….
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u/BrianGumble Aug 26 '22
How long does a transfer normally take for a restricted handgun?
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u/Frozen_Patriot Aug 26 '22
Varies province by province. Of course you didn't say where the transfer needed to take place ;)
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u/BrianGumble Aug 26 '22
Sorry. From Saskatchewan (seller) to Quebec (buyer).
As an added question. I (seller) cannot ship The firearm or request an ATT until AFTER the transfer is complete right?
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u/Distinct_Ad9770 Aug 26 '22
Hi, I recently moved to NB for school and I heard that you need to get a 'Transportation Permit' everytime you want to go to the range?! I am new to NB so I don't really know the provincial laws here and couldn't really find any information on their government site. Any help would be awesome, thank you
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u/FedorTokarev on Aug 26 '22
Anyone buy a non restricted recently and get a tra sfer not approved message on individual web services?
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u/huntcamp Aug 26 '22 edited Aug 26 '22
Question- once I receive a reference number for a restricted transfer (buyer and seller spoke with CFO on same call) am I able to ship? Or do I need to wait for approval paperwork/transfer confirmation? Will I receive it by email?
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u/chillyrabbit Aug 26 '22
Wait for transfer confirmation. The CFO will either snail mail you or email you the transfer notification confirming that the firearm is transferred.
There are possibilities that the CFO can deny a transfer and you need to wait until the CFO approves of it. The reference number is just that a reference number relating to the transfer.
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u/Agent_Smithx2 Combloc best bloc Aug 26 '22
for NR rifles, how long does it take to get a reference number generated prior to picking up your rifle if buying from a store? Would I need to wait a couple of days or is it done in the same day usually?
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u/Willing-Tone273 Aug 26 '22
Any word of Sig P320 Full size mags anywhere? Checked arsenalforce and am on all lists for re stocks!
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u/Pretend_Drag4534 Aug 27 '22
I want to buy a revolver how hard are they to find and any advice?
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u/theawesomedude646 Aug 27 '22
are "gun ranges" common? like are there places where i can rent out and shoot firearms?
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u/iloveneuro Aug 27 '22
What happens to a restricted firearm’s registration mid-transfer (private sale)?
Once you get to the point where the recipient is waiting for the new registration to come in the mail, is the old (i.e. seller’s) registration now invalid?
My partner is going to transfer some handguns over to me before the freeze but we’re wondering if they will need to stay put in the safe until the transfer is complete.
Either way we will go through with the transfer but would like to know if we should avoid registering for upcoming matches.
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Aug 27 '22
Just got my new handgun, didn't really want it but it was now or never lol. Couple questions regarding transport and stuff.
- Do I have to call the police every time I'm taking it to the range?
- Am I allowed to take it to the range and then stay the night somewhere with it in my car trunk (in an opaque case) at a residence that is not associated to my PAL/RPAL?
- I received the handgun with an orange plug in the barrel, is this the same as having a trigger lock or cable lock (or am I technically breaking the law storing it with just this?)
Appreciate any insights or add anything you think I should be aware of that I didn't mention
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u/[deleted] Aug 21 '22 edited Aug 21 '22
Because timelines for applications and transfers is a huge topic in itself, can we create a separate thread for it if possible? Users should post in the following format:
Province • Type of Application • Application received date • Credit card charge date • Application processed date • License received in mail date.
Even if their application is not processed, just keep giving the latest updates as to which stage they’re at.
@mods: Thank you for considering 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻