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u/Incognimoo Jul 25 '22
5888xxx, Ontario, purchased May 31, submitted June 1, approved July 25.
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u/cowontag11 Jul 25 '22
That's helpful. Its difficult to gauge the processing rate, but I'm thinking anything after July won't be processed till after the government reconvenes
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u/Grimmerthan Jul 26 '22
My RPAL was just approved:
Timeline is:
- reached RCMP (signed for) - April 11th
- processing started - July 11th (+3 months)
- approved today - July 26th (+15 days)
I plan to call and ask for the number, so I can get some purchases in motion. Now, I'm crossing my fingers for a rhino 60DS not in some garish colour to show up.
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Jul 27 '22
Let me know if successful. You need expiry date too to order, but someone told me you need to have your card in order to buy legally but perhaps that's only in person?? Ahh all these regs for noobs. I'm exhausted lol
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u/O8S1S Jul 28 '22
Ontario RPAL Timeline (Updated)
Application Received: March 28th, 2022
CC Charged: June 22nd, 2022
Approved: July 12th, 2022
Issued: July 20th, 2022
Received: July 27th, 2022
Good luck everyone!
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Jul 28 '22
Application Received: March 28th, 2022
CC Charged: June 22nd, 2022
Approved: July 12th, 2022
Issued: July 20th, 2022
Received: July 27th, 2022
did you check any boxes? My applicaiton was received 25 feb and i haven't received any info at all
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Jul 25 '22
crown land to shoot on near Ottawa
Looking for decent spots to shoot in and around the Ottawa area. Renfrew, Calabogy are usually suggested but were specifically? Range is only allowing one unlicensed visitor atm so I'm looking for a nice spot to bring a few close friends and safely and legally do some plinking without disturbing anybody.
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u/chronoalarm MILSURP IS LIFE Jul 28 '22
FYI nobody is going to give up their good spots. People just ruin them with trash.
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u/voodoopriest Jul 25 '22
I know Urban Tactical in Brantford does shooting packages but I don't know if they let you bring your own gun.
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u/Impossible-Apricot-1 Jul 28 '22 edited Jul 29 '22
Manitoba Pal/firearms license timeline:
Application recieved: March 29
Showed up online: June 26
Initial review: July 6 (If I remember correctly)
License issued: July 14
License received: July 28
Mosin purchased: July 28
Total length: ~4 months
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u/AvidOutdoors Jul 29 '22
I’m in a similar situation, but I had to check the box for prescriptions so I’m still waiting.
App received March 29
Cc charged June 17
Initial review completed just in limbo now
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u/Fudderoo Jul 27 '22
Wait times from the point of receiving application to license in hand is 4 months from March 2022.
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u/ghost_ghost_ Jul 27 '22
Thanks for posting this. Sent mine in early May and haven't seen anything on the RCMP site yet. What province are you in?
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u/EngineNecessary8696 Jul 27 '22 edited Jul 27 '22
Application Received February 16, 2022
Cc Charged May 17th, 2022 (initial review done the same day)
When I call RCMP for my application status they say that it is with CFO and when I call CFO for Saskatchewan they say that my application is still with a support group RCMP at Miramichi. It has been going on for about a month now.
Today I found out the name of the person who has my application. So, I called RCMP and told them the issue that I am having, according to RCMP the person who has my file is CFO.
I am kind of confused now. Can anybody with a better understanding of this process help me understand this?
Thanks!
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u/MayorMcCheese92 Jul 28 '22
You just gotta keep waiting my friend, mine took over a year…
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u/EngineNecessary8696 Jul 28 '22
So I just gotta keep my mouth shut and trust the system I guess
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u/MayorMcCheese92 Jul 28 '22
Pretty much… you could try and reach out to your provinces CFO and inquire more(as you stated CFP/RCMP said CFO has your file application now) , not sure if that helps speed anything up. I wish you all the best though, hope you get it sooner then later!
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u/MayorMcCheese92 Jul 28 '22
https://www.rcmp-grc.gc.ca/en/firearms/contact-a-chief-firearms-officer
That lists the province and territories CFO contact, i wasnt able to find extensions for them all, but just google you will find.
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Jul 28 '22
You just gotta keep waiting my friend, mine took over a year…
did you have any boxes checked?
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u/BopplzLife British Columbia Jul 30 '22
Minors License Timeline for BC
Application Mailed to Surrey - 02/09
Application Received (According to CFP IWS) - 03/09
Credit Card Charged - I'll update when I can check
License Issued - 07/18
I received my license from Miramichi in the mail today. 5 months, 2 weeks and 6 days total.
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u/Character-Cattle-595 Jul 25 '22
My application was received in February. And the rcmp site keeps saying they have completed the initial review. Any idea on how much longer it’ll take?
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Jul 26 '22
My application was received in February. And the rcmp site keeps saying they have completed the initial review. Any idea on how much longer it’ll take?
same, received 25 Feb, initial review showed on 20 May, nothing since. ontario cfo confirmed they have my application, that's it.
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Jul 25 '22
Do I need to bring my registration certificate when I go to the range with my handgun?
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u/ClemementineSweetie Jul 25 '22
Yes.
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Jul 25 '22
Ight thanks mate, that's what I figured
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Jul 25 '22
During the RPAL course, they tell us you need your PAL card, your registration certificates (I bring photocopys) and your conditions letter (also a photocopy).
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u/pats_28 Jul 25 '22
I know no one knows the real answer to this. But for the people following restricted transfers closely. Realistically can I expect to get my June 3 (ON) transfer before September ends or is this something I may get in October
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u/BillionNewt Jul 25 '22
I think its possible still. They're doing 5888x June 1 transfers today it seems from what people are reporting. That should put them on pace to finish June 3 near end of Sept using the conservative estimate.
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u/u53rn4m315t4k3nn Jul 26 '22
How many transfers they complete each day? It is rhetorical. It is impossible to know. Mine is at 589xx
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u/xpurplexamyx Jul 26 '22
Jun 3 restricted purchase on a not-yet-activate-by-purchase rpal. Just received TN today. BC.
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u/After-Strategy1933 Jul 26 '22
WS MCR accuracy. How accurate is the MCR compared to higher end semi rifles like the Tavor, ACR, BREN 2 etc?
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u/ProfessionalFar7916 Jul 28 '22
Anyone know if theammosource.com is a trust worthy online store? I wanna buy a rifle
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u/johnnyfuckinghobo Jul 28 '22
Pal card is going to arrive in the next couple days or so, and I'm going to start looking at buying used firearms locally. Anyone want to share their checklist of things you inspect while deciding if you want to purchase the gun you're looking at? The more details the better.
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u/soggycereal7 Jul 28 '22
2 purchases, both 5906xxx, June 3rd, BC CFO Processed the transfer notices this morning.
What do I do now? It's been so long that Ive forgotten.
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u/soggycereal7 Jul 29 '22
I forwarded the transfer notice email to the store I purchased from, they shipped it same day and provided tracking number. Woooo
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u/ggdrguy Jul 28 '22
You get the guns. Either pick up or make sure the person/vendor ships them. Then you wait for the registration (and if it’s your first restricted, new RPAL) and go to the range!
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u/Brazilian_in_YYZ Jul 29 '22
Finally! My credit card got charged!!!
Apr 29th - Documents delivered @ RCMP with signature required
Jul 29th - RCMP charges the card - 3 months on the dot.
I’m in south Ontario.
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u/iloveneuro Jul 29 '22
Update on PAL/RPAL application in ON
Mailed: March 10th
Received: March 18th
Cc charged/initial review completed: June 15th
Forwarded to CFO: July 5th (verbally confirmed with RCMP)
In Ontario. Yes to question 16 d) for depression. Included note from my doctor in application stating they are supportive of me having firearms.
Was able to get through to RCMP after only a few hold/drop cycles. Keep trying folks.
1 (800) 731-4000,1,,,,,,,5,2
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u/---Xenophage--- Jul 29 '22 edited Jul 30 '22
5890XXX email approval arrived today.
Ontario: Ordered May 31st
Processed June 1st
Email transfer approval from CFO July 29th (8 weeks)
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Jul 30 '22
I send in
Ontario's CFO office is ridiculous. You guys should start lobbying your PC government to invest in it to get it running at a reasonable rate.
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Jul 24 '22
I’m looking into getting some firearms anyone know a trusty worthy site or shop to get used firearms?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 24 '22
Try Ellwood Epps, they have a large inventory and an archaic website.
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Jul 24 '22
I am happy with my recent purchase from SFRC (aka The Ammo Source). Also G4C was good to deal with.
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Jul 24 '22
Anyone have any success initiating a private restricted transfer by emailing the form to the CFP?
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u/l05g Jul 24 '22
If you were in my situation, what would you buy next?
I'm a member at the PCDHFC. I've been shooting hand guns for a while - Beretta 96, S&W 686, and waiting for my new Walther PDP. Because I shoot hand guns, I go to Range 10, sometimes with a guest who does not have a PAL. I'm aiming to take the RUC soon so I can go to the other ranges.
I want to get into rifles now. The idea of learning to shoot long distances is really interesting to me. But i imagine when I go to PCDHFC, I would want to shoot a mix of hand guns and rifles - it's almost a one hour drive each way for me, so I want to get the most out of each trip.
So what do you think I should get next? I've been eyeing the Ruger PC Carbine or the Ruger Precision Rifle (22LR). Both of these I can shoot at Range 10 and the lower ranges when I get my RUC, right? Or should I get the Ruger Precision Rifle in 308 or 6.5 creedmoor?
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Jul 25 '22
What distance are you looking to shoot "long range"? The general consensus of long range is 1,000m+. You would need a very good full power rifle for that. No 22lr, no 5.56Nato. You would be indeed looking at .308win or 6.5 creedmoor. If you are thinking of 100m or maybe even 200m, 22lr could indeed work.
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u/l05g Jul 26 '22
Good to know "long range" means 1000m+. I definitely don't mean that. I can dream, but I'll be surprised to hit something at that range. Lol.
I was just referring to longer than my typical hand gun range. Maybe 100m? 200m? I'll work up to 1000m one day, I hope.
Thanks for your input!
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u/boredoutofmyballs Jul 25 '22
Any good cqb training or tactical training offered in BC? Not just dynamic pistol, but breaching and clearing etc? Would be interested in courses..
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u/Critical-Raccoon-473 Jul 25 '22
I was reserve infantry- learned alot about myself during training. Rifle traning, LMG/GPMG training was ALOT of fun. Trench digging was an experience, but house clearing, using flashbangs...that was sicK!!
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Jul 25 '22
How do references work?
I’m scheduled to take CFSC and CRSFC and I’ve been looking at the requirements to apply for both licenses.
I’ve been narrowing down people I can use as references but I’ve been running into a few issues.
Some friends and family members are nervous about being on some sort of government database, and I have others who don’t care about that but they have thick accents and weak English.
Do they normally interview your references or is it more of a formality?
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u/Bushido_Plan Jul 25 '22
It'll be fine even if they have weak English. They'll simply ask if they have any reason to believe you are violent or should not own a firearm and if they actually know you. That's all. And that's if they even call your references at all.
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Jul 25 '22
They must have known you for a minimum of 3 years and your spouse can't be one of them.
Sometimes they call sometimes they don't. If your friends live in Canada than they are already in the database. They should be fine, even without perfect English.
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Jul 25 '22
I’m an RPAL holder but never bothered with owning any restricteds before due to all the regulations on them, it just seemed like a pain in the ass. Well… since it’s become now or never, I’m now awaiting the transfer to go thru for my first restricted.
I’m in BC and the range near my house has a two year waiting list, so I joined the SilverCore gun club since that’s good enough for restricted ownership. So my question is… while I wait for my range membership, can I shoot at walk in ranges, or my buddies range that’s a couple towns over? Or can I only shoot at ranges that I’m a member of?
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u/knine71551 Jul 25 '22
You can shoot at any range but some ranges have their own rules about guests
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u/TheTangerineTango Jul 26 '22 edited Jul 26 '22
I tried checking up on the RCMP online Canadian Firearms policy thing, I punched in my bank, and personal info and it says there is no matching record for me. It’s been a month since I’ve mailed my R-PAL request, who should I contact so that I can see how my application is going?
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u/chief_robb Jul 26 '22
You’ll probably have to wait another 2 months. 3 months from receipt at the rcmp seems to be the norm lately
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u/fexmex Jul 26 '22
Finally got my RPAL. Any good stores in southern Ontario to browse and purchase?
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u/DEADxDAWN Jul 28 '22
Anyone have issues using Silvercore as your gun club to meet the restricted reqs?
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u/_newb00tg00fin_ Jul 28 '22
Never. They seem to check all the boxes for the CFO and any stores/ranges.
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u/SettingPitiful4330 Jul 28 '22
Question about storing ammo if it's locked in a ammo crate can it be in the same room at the firearms? (It's one of those bass pro plastic ammo storage crates)
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u/Scopequest Jul 28 '22
The key phrase is that the ammo must be "not readily accessable" to them firearm. I would feel comfortable storing my ammo in a locked plastic box if it was decent quality (the shitty Plano ones that you can get partially open when locked would cover me concern).
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u/SettingPitiful4330 Jul 28 '22
Yeah I figured it should be good I just hate how vague they are on stuff I just don't have much of a option currently besides said storage
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u/GinnAdvent Jul 28 '22
I think if you lock the ammo crate itself in another container, then by definition, you should be fine.
Putting some distance between the ammo and firearm doesn't really make significant difference unless you lock one of them up in a safe or heavy gauge steel box.
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u/Vearo nb Jul 28 '22
Just got my credit card charged today for my RPAL upgrade. Sent my application in on the week of April 25-29th. Can't remember which day, so let's say on the 27th.
When can I start buying restricteds? On approval, issue?
Can I also buy multiple restricteds and just wait for my new card to be printed with the ATT, or do I need to wait for the new card?
I really want to hit the ground running, so I appreciate any help.
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Jul 28 '22
Once you see the message in the portal that it’s been approved/issued, your PAL number becomes an RPAL (you’ll get a new card in the mail, actually, I got one once approved .0002 then they sent another after 1st restricted purchase .0003). I made a purchase the day I saw that message update in the portal and no issues at all.
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u/cryrid Jul 28 '22
While waiting for approval, apply for a range membership if you don't already have one. It would be best to get started now since some ranges only do their orientations once a month. The NB CFO will request to see proof of a valid 2022 New Brunswick gun club membership in order to approve any transfer.
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u/Specialist_Twist9712 Jul 29 '22 edited Jul 29 '22
Im thinking about getting a firearm from Ellwood Epps online and was wondering if anyone had any experience buying used from them? The condition of the firearm I want is listed as Very Good and was wondering what that means (# of scratches, operation, issues) Edit: typo in store name
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u/dwdbg Jul 29 '22 edited Jul 29 '22
Ellwood Epps has a very good reputation. Give ‘em a call and ask about the details. If they (the employee) are worth anything they’ll talk to you.
Edit: you did mean Ellwood right? I wouldn’t want to endorse a shady site.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 29 '22
If it's wrong they will quickly make it right.
Used condition is thoroughly explained on their website under customer service.
*Ellwood Epps
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u/Warfo bc Jul 29 '22
Really noob question I am sure but here goes lol. I recently purchased my first restricted (Glock 19) and have taken possession, and have received my firearm registration certificate in the mail. I am under the understanding that as of now I would need to get an ATT to transport/use my Glock at the Range, correct?
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u/Nice-Chain9836 Jul 29 '22
ATT to go to your range is an “automatic-ATT” that’s attached to your PAL. In short, you don’t need to call to get an ATT if you’re going to your range.
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u/Warfo bc Jul 29 '22
Thanks for the response! I have read a few places that the Auto-ATT is valid for any licensed/regulated range in your province. I am in BC. Do you know if that is correct or is it just specifically for the range(s) that are attached to my RPAL?
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u/Nice-Chain9836 Jul 29 '22
I believe that’s correct. I have heard before that you do need to be “invited” to go to a range that you’re not a member of but I’m not sure how true that is. I invited someone to my range and when they called for an ATT, they just said no ATT required/auto-ATT is sufficient.
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u/Jerrmamaya Jul 24 '22
I applied for a PAL 4 months ago in Quebec. Still no response or any update on the application. Does anyone know how long the PAL application process takes?
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u/nicolas133 Jul 25 '22
I send the mail December 2021, cc got charged February, still waiting. They say: C'est le contrôleur de votre province qui a le dossier en main....
Still waiting for the SQ, but there no way to reach them.
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u/NervousShop Jul 25 '22
Looking at purchasing some fire arms in the coming week for the first time, and hoping people can recommend me some good gun safes that don't break the bank. Thanks
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u/Kridane Jul 25 '22
I just use a stackon cabinet from Canadian Tire, does the job just fine and has bolt mounting holes for extra security. Always buy 2x the size you think you will need. For example a 12 gun cabinet/safe realistically only holds 6.
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u/voodoopriest Jul 25 '22
Get a metal gun cabinet instead of a safe. Most of the safes under $2,000 are not much thicker.
You can get a gun cabinet for less than $200 for an 8 gun cabinet to $500 for a 30 gun cabinet.
It should be noted that gun storage numbers are not accurate. Treat it like tent numbers, you have to divide by 2 to get the proper storage number because it is base on guns with no bolt action, optics or accessories.
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u/NervousShop Jul 25 '22
Appreciate the response, a cabinet will be so much cheaper for me.
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Jul 25 '22
A "cabinet" still meets the legal requirements of a safe, so you can lock all your firearms and ammo in there without needing trigger locks.
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Jul 26 '22
Get a high quality lock.
Whatever you wanna buy type it into YouTube followed by picked/bypassed, best way to assess a locks security.
If it’s got an electronic lock have it replaced with a high quality mechanical lock
Layer your security. So hide the safe, have a camera pointing at your front door, paint the ground floor walls white so prowlers are silhouetted, install motion sensor lights outside.
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Jul 25 '22
So now all the ‘cool’ looking bang sticks are banned; anyone have any good suggestions for alternatives to AR/Cool looking Firearms? I know the X-95 is still somehow legal, but for how long? I’m not holding my breath. Plus it’s a bull pup - while I do love them, for speed rifle competitions I’m quicker with the traditional layout. Non restricted or restricted what’s your suggestion for both? I’d be looking for something I can put sights/optics/lights etc.. on it. Hopefully has a detachable magazine & preferably in 5.56x45 or 7.62x51. Other sized rounds are fine.
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Jul 25 '22
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Jul 25 '22
WK180 and WS-MCR are NOT AR-variants.
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Jul 25 '22
These ARE both AR-180b variants. The term "AR style" that many people are using now days is as meaningless as saying "Ruger Style". AR was a manufacture/designer (ie Armalite), not a style.
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u/ultra_bright Jul 25 '22
Can I legally build rifles from scratch for myself with an RPAL?
I called the CFP and CFO and was not able to get through, so I called the OPP and they told me to call the CFP as they didnt know.
Google wasn’t very helpful.
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u/Scopequest Jul 25 '22
I'm under the impression that the law isn't crystal clear but that the RCMP used to say you could but have now official reversed their position and say you need a business licence.
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u/ultra_bright Jul 26 '22
Just spoke with a lawyer, you need a manufacturing business license to make anything with a serial number basically which sucks.
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u/HotelLima88 Jul 25 '22
Anyone have experience with changing address when you have restricted firearms? I’m moving in a month and can’t even get a que to wait when calling.
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Jul 25 '22
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u/sysexecv Jul 25 '22
Hey guys, since bill c-21 might be coming into effect soon, if you can only buy one revolver, which one would you choose?
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u/knine71551 Jul 26 '22
Colt Python or Ruger GP100
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Jul 26 '22
I've been looking for a gp100 for so long, I'm annoyed at this point.
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u/knine71551 Jul 26 '22
Yeah there’s some around in the 2ndary market but man ppl are trying to make a pretty buck
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u/BillionNewt Jul 26 '22
I pick based on looks so I would get a colt python with 6 inch barrel... if I had money
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Jul 26 '22
I'm considering trying to get a Ruger Blackhawk. Better still if I can get my hands on the convertible one which also comes with a 9mm cylinder as well as .357. So much versatility in having 3 different ammo types for one gun.
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u/ggghosted Jul 26 '22
Ontario Victoria Point Crown Land? The map is really confusing, but it seems like this is “General Use” area, just want to double check. Here’s a picture of the Map
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u/Silentcloner bc Jul 26 '22
Sent in RPAL (BC) application on June 1st (One hour after reading the first article about the transfer ban lol). Website does not show my application as having been received. I already have my PAL and was wondering what everyone else's experience was with applying for the license from BC.
Also, I attached my restricted course proof of passing, but for the non-restricted course, I wrote that I had passed already ie I have my PAL and that they have it on file. Does anyone else have an experience similar to mine with this?
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Jul 26 '22
License has been "issued" as of yesterday. Wish I could order something now. Says I should receive in two weeks, is that the norm? I'm assuming that's delayed too.
Thanks!
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u/olhol12 Jul 27 '22
If you call the CFP and tell them you need the PAL number for range membership, they’ll give it to you. At the rate transfers are getting processed, it’s a pretty safe bet the card will be in your hand before your transfer gets approved
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u/wert989 Jul 27 '22
Yeah 2 weeks roughly is the norm. But honest question for anyone else who stumbles across this. Is one of the printers still down? I can't remember how people found out and that could be a delay.
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u/ivegotabigonetucked Jul 27 '22
I have a few sks and recently was offered $650 for one, should I sell now or do you think thr price will significantly increase in future
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u/throwa37 Jul 27 '22
It's going to significantly increase. You could get them from big box stores for $200 only a few years ago. Supply has dried up, but demand is still strong. The longer you wait, the more you'll make.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 27 '22
Yes but
2½ years ago $189.
At $650 profit is about $20/month, that's not much money. Could go back and buy 1000 rifles though...
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u/mithrajr Jul 27 '22
Is Norinco red-box and white-box ammo actually non-corrosive? Anyone with experience?
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u/CringelordCameron Jul 27 '22
The red box stuff is newer production and is always non corrosive. The white box stuff can be hit and miss and should always be treated as corrosive.
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u/AntiSocialW0rker Jul 27 '22
Regarding keeping the RCMP updated with your address. Say I have an RPAL but don’t actually own any restricted guns, do I still need to notify the RCMP of any address changes?
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u/chillyrabbit Jul 27 '22
Yes, it still is a basic condition of your firearms license. the point is that need to know where you live to send mail to you.
Conditions 15 A chief firearms officer who issues a licence to an individual shall attach to it the condition that the individual shall report any changes in the individual’s name or address to a chief firearms officer within 30 days after the change
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Jul 27 '22
Timeline update for y’all
Paid June 21
Received Reference number July 14 (never again ronin sports. Never fucking again)
Asked bc/yt cfo 2 days ago if they needed any more info/foot pics
Got my transfer notification this morning!
Let’s see how long ronin takes to ship. If the rest of my interactions is any indication I’ll have my pistol in early 2032.
NEVER AGAIN RONIN ASDFG
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u/throwa37 Jul 27 '22 edited Jul 27 '22
I'd purchased a SIG M17 (no safety) from them as well, in early June. I was only notified three weeks later that, oops, they didn't actually have the gun and were waiting for their supplier to come through.
They seem to have good reviews, and they were informative when they got around to contacting me, but I was not impressed by that. I ended up cancelling with them when Wild West Shooting Center got the same gun in with the manual safety, which I prefer anyway for the military authenticity.
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Jul 27 '22
Same. Bought a glock 19x and was told it’s being ordered and I’m on the waiting list. They refunded me right away. Should have waited my LGS has stock now and I love dealing with them (reliable gun ftw)
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u/throwa37 Jul 27 '22
The thing that really bugs me is that being out here in Ontario, those three weeks of not knowing they didn't actually have the gun in stock made a huge difference. If they'd been able to start my transfer when I paid for the thing, I might have it by now, but seeing as how my transfer only got started in late June, I won't be getting my hands on it until well after the freeze takes effect - and there's always the possibility that they cut off transfers in the queue, and then I'm fucked. Will not be too pleased if that ends up happening.
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Jul 27 '22
That’s infuriating. It’s crazy that they don’t seem to give a fuck that there’s a deadline and that’s all we get FOR THE REST OF OUR LIFES.
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u/_newb00tg00fin_ Jul 27 '22
Bit of a greenhorn on restricted purchases and need some info.
Just bought a SIG 320 (they finally came back in stock for a whopping 18 hours at my local) and everything was paid for in store with the transaction confirmation number, application number and serial on the receipt. I've just logged into the RCMP portal and looked at my profile but there is nothing sitting my my registration of restricted field and no applications were found in the status of restricted application page either.
Is there something I need to submit or contact the CFO with for this or is this just me being unfamiliar and impatient with the process?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 27 '22
Commercial transfers will not show in individual web services. RCMP are weird that way. Why be convenient?
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u/pcurkz Jul 27 '22
Hey gang. Got my RPAL could years back but I'm finally getting on the restricted train before the freeze makes it too cold to buy a handgun. Only issue is I'm moving from BC back to AB in ~ 3 weeks and I'm worried that gonna push me too far back in the transfer que (if it's not already I bit late). My theoretical out is that a buddy of mine also has his rpal and restricteds at his home. Is it possible to purchase and store at his home but under my name in the interm before I move back? And what differences would thank make in the transfer form /application? Any help would be appreciated, cheers team!
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Jul 27 '22
Don’t do that strange friend thing. I’m not 100% sure how moving works, but I would be tempted to update your address now because the Alberta CFO is faster, and doesn’t require a range membership. (You’ll need to let the CFO office know what walk in range you plan to shoot at).
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u/Tacticalman45 Jul 27 '22
Is Arms east trustworthy? Want to get a Glock but I am hesitant
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u/MayorMcCheese92 Jul 28 '22
Good luck getting through tho i been trying for weeks, also sent them am email and all i got back was an autoreply saying there busy
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u/ggdrguy Jul 28 '22
Get it, there is always a point to having it and no one really knows for certain, it may also get repealed at a later date if it does indeed go through.
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u/Azariahz Jul 29 '22
I called in and asked in September or October last year and they told me electronic signature is fine. My distanced reference ended up printing and signing anyways so I didn’t end up needing to try my luck.
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u/DEADxDAWN Jul 28 '22
Is having multiple restricted orders (say 3) put through as first time purchases from different vendors going to make approval harder or flag?
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Jul 28 '22
Probably a dumb question; but does anyone have experience with what Ruger magazine goes with the PC carbine? I've been reading some people saying the SR9 magazine isn't compatible. Thanks.
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u/_Ian_Sun_ Jul 29 '22
I bought my first ever handgun on June 6, after payment I just left the store, the store said RCMP will send me the paperwork before I can take my gun home. but until now, I still not received any paper from RCMP. So I start to wonder if there is anything I forget to do or if it just takes a long time for them to process the file.
any advice?
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u/nsgallup al Jul 29 '22
Has anyone had any luck getting ahold of the firearms program to initiate or complete a restricted firearm transfer?
I ordered a Glock 19 from rampart and they emailed me saying they started the transfer and I have to call CFP with a reference number to confirm my address and complete the transfer. I have tried calling several times. Most of the time as soon as I select the option for transferring I am immediately disconnected due to high call volume. A few times I have gotten through to wait on hold for an agent, but once I have been on hold for 30 minutes I get an automated error message and am disconnected.
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u/issagoodtime Jul 29 '22
How do we update our email address that's associated with our PAL?
I've called the canadian fire arms program that's ru by the rcmp and all my calls have been dropped after waiting 30 mins.
I'm frustrated.
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u/mrbrownthunder Jul 29 '22
When you login in online and select licence holder the first thing it’ll prompt you for after entering your details is the email address.
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u/xLev_ Jul 29 '22
I’m still waiting for my licence but I had a couple questions about the process for buying restricted firearms that I hope you guys could help with.
On Silvercore’s website it says “By joining our gun club, you will meet the Canadian Firearms Programs (CFP) issuance requirements in order to obtain a Long Term Authorization to Transport (ATT).” I thought that you received an ATT automatically when your licence is issued?
Also, I heard that its required to email your CFO when buying a handgun, what is that about?
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u/ggdrguy Jul 30 '22
Hello, welcome to the firearms community, I pray for your bank account as I pray for mine…
Other than Ontario and Alberta you need to be a member of a range to legally purchase and own restricteds. Silvercore is just saying that if you can’t find a local/affordable range locally, you can join with them and it counts for the same in the eyes of the cfo.
If you buy from a store they can do the transfer online and all you have to do is wait for the email to come saying transfer approved. Then you can either pick up or have the gun shipped. In 2-3 weeks after that you will get your guns’ registration and a new Rpal(even if you just got your first) and then you can take it to a range.
If you buy from a private seller, they need to call in the transfer. Once they get a reference number then they give it to you to call in with your information as the buyer. Then the same process with the email, ship/pick up, registration and new Rpal(only for your first restricted purchase)
I hope that helps, feel free to ask anything else.
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u/arvindhraman al Jul 30 '22
I am looking to expand my collection. Due to my budget, I am looking for a cheap 12ga break action shotgun and a 22LR rifle. Any recommendations on where to get these second hand or used?
Thank You.
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Jul 30 '22
Not sure where to get used ones other than your local gun store. But a cheap new .22 is the ruger 10/22, or the Savage A22.
For shotguns you could get a Winchester SXP or a Mossberg Maverick 88.
These are going to be my options when my PAL finally comes in the mail.
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u/pickledshallots Jul 30 '22
3 months to the day my cc was finally charged!! I was afraid it had gotten lost in the mail!
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u/daiimer Jul 30 '22
Do you need to send both copies of your completed course report with your application?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 30 '22 edited Jul 31 '22
Only one, on top of that your CFO already has one of the four (five?) copies.
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u/LePapaPapSmear Jul 30 '22
RPAL Timeline Ontario
Mailed - 2022-04-15 Signature required
Received - 2022-04-19
CC Charged - 2022-07-14
License Issues- 2022-07-30
Had a PAL before so just upgrading
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u/throwa37 Jul 30 '22
I like to use a heat gun on the stock (carefully, because it's easy to scorch the wood) to bleed out the cosmoline so it can be mopped up with shop towels.
There's not going to be much you can do to shine up the metal that would actually be worth it
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u/Scopequest Jul 31 '22
Trigger does nothing: was the safety off? Was the hammer cocked and the bolt fully forward and closed?
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u/Kise93 Jul 30 '22
In Nova Scotia, I just got my RPAL and joined a range. I don't have a membership number yet, but would like to buy a pistol. Will the RCMP reject the transfer while I'm waiting for my membership number?
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u/ggdrguy Jul 31 '22
I don’t think so, I’ve never had to provide a membership number for my range, just said I was a member and all good. This is Sask though, but still..
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u/cryrid Jul 31 '22
They can reject a transfer if you aren't able to provide them the information that they request to see. Typically they should give you a decent window of time in order to provide them that information however. I'm not sure if it varies from province to province, but my CFO gives 45 days to reply with a membership card.
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u/SmoothMoose420 Jul 27 '22
Just wanted to say thanks. Love this sub.