r/canadaguns Oct 02 '22

Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions

This thread will be used for the "new"-type questions, PAL/RPAL applications, references, CFSC/CFRSC requirements, storage/transport, or other general "new-to-me" firearms ownership questions.

In response to this thread, the community was quite positive for a thread to cover these subjects.

These threads will be stickied for a week, renewing every Sunday @ about 0600 AST. Previous threads here. Take a look, your question may have been answered!

If you have any suggestions for this thread, please feel free to ask here, or send the Mods a message.

Thank you!

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Oct 05 '22

Got application approved!

PAL Alberta Timeline Update (non-restricted):

Application sent express mail: June 24, 2022
Application received by RCMP: June 30, 2022
CC Charged and initial review: Sept 15 2022
Application approved/issued: October 5 2022
License in hand: ?

Hang in there guys!

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u/Grimmerthan Oct 04 '22

I was this old today when I learned that the buyer can initiate a restricted transfer.

I managed to get through to the CFP this afternoon to process two transfers as the buyer. I asked if I could conference in a 3rd person, the seller, to initiate another transfer.

The officer said they would not do a conference call, but they were happy to go ahead with initiating the transfer from my side, ie, the buyer's side.

Wait, wut?

They explained that as long as the buyer's name, phone number, and PAL number and serial or registration of the firearm is available, the transfer can be initiated by the seller . If the seller initiates, the buyer confirms. If the buyer initiates, the seller confirms.

Mind blown! On the RCMP page, for restricted and prohibited, there is no statement of order, just that the CFP must speak to both parties.

In my case, i was short firearm information, so I couldn't start it.

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u/chillyrabbit Oct 05 '22

Interesting, the Firearms Act and Regulations doesn't put an order required for a restricted/prohibited transfer.

It just says that the transferor (seller) must inform the registrar of the transfer.

Authorization to transfer prohibited or restricted firearms

23.2 (1) A person may transfer a prohibited firearm or a restricted firearm if, at the time of the transfer,

(a) the transferee holds a licence authorizing the transferee to acquire and possess that kind of firearm;

(b) the transferor has no reason to believe that the transferee is not authorized to acquire and possess that kind of firearm;

(c) the transferor informs the Registrar of the transfer;

(d) if the transferee is an individual, the transferor informs a chief firearms officer of the transfer and obtains the authorization of the chief firearms officer for the transfer;

(e) a new registration certificate for the firearm is issued in accordance with this Act; and

(f) the prescribed conditions are met.

23.2 (b) though is interesting as technically the seller hasn't checked that the buyer is authorized to acquire/possess that firearm.

Then again it's not like it's immediately obvious that a person has a Restricted license based on the number or look of the card, (besides the miniscule restricted printed on the back) and really the only way to check that they are authorized is to basically start a transfer.

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u/justsomeguy1919 Oct 06 '22

Since everyone here has been so helpful!

Alberta Timeline: PAL+RPAL Application received: June 23rd Card charged: September 8th Card issued: October 3rd

I called today and got them to tell me my pal number and just initiated two restricted transfers (store bought). Haven’t received my license just yet

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u/jaraxel_arabani Oct 06 '22

wait wait, you can get your pal number on the phone? *face palm* it didn't cross my mind to ask for it when I called today

*huge facepalm*

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u/justsomeguy1919 Oct 06 '22

Haha I’ve seen quite a few people saying they were waiting for it in the mail, so thought sharing my story would help!

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 06 '22

👍👍

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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 06 '22

If I could ask, what did you find?

I just got my RPAL last week, but in anticipation I had been stalking inventory on a couple of sites. Got a CZ P-09 and a P-10 F. Not my first choice, but my second and third, so I’m pretty happy to get that at this late date.

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u/DJ_Necrophilia Oct 04 '22

It happened. Today's the day.

After 209 days I finally got the magical email saying that my license renewal was approved

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u/RangerTab59 Oct 06 '22

Reside in Ontario and just received my Transfer Notice 30 seconds ago - October 06/2022

Purchased from Tenda in-store on June 04/2022

TRANSFER. REF # 591XXXX

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u/PhatPawley Oct 07 '22

Ontario pal/rpal timeline

App received - July 25 Cc charge - sep 29 (initial review complete) Licence issued- Oct 6 or 7

Called Ontario CFO at 7:05 this morning and was surprised I was put in que. Call was answered at 9:25 and I was able to get my pal #

Super lucky with how fast the processing time was when it started . Here’s hoping marstar starts the transfer before anything bad happens. I had pretty much given up having any chance of owning a handgun.

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u/guns4life99999 Oct 07 '22

Call marstar while they're open, give your order number and request that they put the transfer through for you while you're on the phone and give you the reference number. Do it asap because you dont want to leave anything to chance

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u/MLI691H Oct 08 '22 edited Oct 08 '22

Didn’t think this was going to happen! Just checked the application status and it was approved. Been checking all day and pretty much gave up!

Your application has been processed and your licence has been issued.

Timeline (Ontario): PAL/RPAL course completed: June 5, 2022 Results received: July 18, 2022 Application sent the same day Application status appeared in portal: September 28, 2022. CC charged: September 29, 2022 (had to call in as the original CC was compromised) Application approved: October 7, 2022

Hold your horses Liberals and let me buy some hand guns!

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u/Maleficent-Unit6763 Oct 08 '22

congrats. I sent in mine one week after you and just got credit card charged Oct 4. Did they actually call your references?

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u/panzermeister36 Oct 08 '22

You might have got in just under the wire. Congrats!

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u/TheSmallSlice Oct 08 '22

Congratulations! I'm still waiting, cc charged on September 14th. Kinda beginning to think it'll be a very long time if at all.

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u/DJ_Necrophilia Oct 03 '22

Just got off the phone with the MB CFO office. Told me to pound sand and that the CFO doesn't take any calls

Called my MP office right after, they've been getting tons of complaints and have been making complaints of behalf of people but nothing is changing.

Idk what to do now. My 6 month grace period ends in 6 weeks

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Oct 03 '22

Doesn't take any calls? Why pick up at all then? Sorry to hear that, I hope you can get the info you're looking for. Good luck.

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u/DJ_Necrophilia Oct 03 '22

The call center does, but the CFO herself refuses to take any calls

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Oct 03 '22

Yikes not much of a public servant...

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

It won't help immediately, but you need to lobby your Provincial level elected officials. Manatoba needs a CFO that stands with gun owners, not against.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 04 '22

Updated RPAL arrived in the mail today.

Now I just wait for the registration certificates… then range time :)

Edit: Certificates arrived a day later! Time to take the toys for a spin!

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

I’m still waiting on two from August 3rd in BC.. :/

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

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u/Shagga_Dagga Oct 09 '22

Mine is almost the same but later by 8 days. 👍

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u/Goodexampl3 Oct 08 '22

Latest Ontario Timeline! PAL+RPAL

Application received: May 18th

Reviewed: May 24th

CC Charged: August 16th

Issued: Today! (October 8th)

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u/[deleted] Oct 08 '22

We share the same license day! Congrats! I know what I'm thankful for this year... 🎉

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u/Goodexampl3 Oct 08 '22

Lol exactly happy thanksgiving!

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

I got my PAL APPROVED FINALLY !! Received April 29th 2022 Cc charged July 29th Approved October 3rd

I emailed a cfo officer in Ontario like her personal work email and she approved it.

My suggestion to you guys is just to email your CFO and ask when the cfo received your application when they reply just be like “thank you may I please have your name?” When they give you their name usually they put their CFO work email and number with extension.

if you’re in Ontario and get somebody named KAM he is not going to help you from what I notice

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u/necros911 Oct 04 '22

Mine was received May 16th. RCMP website says initial review done. Haven’t been charged anything yet. Maybe phoning helps. It’s getting annoying waiting. I’m in Alberta.

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u/ohz0pants Oct 04 '22

Mine was received May 16th.

Mine was received June 22 and I literally got the card in the mail today. (In Ontario.)

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

For anyone wondering, QUÉBEC are processing transfers from JUNE 14-15th as per CFO just now.

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u/YogurtStorm Oct 02 '22

My RPAL has been in "Initial review process completed" for a month now, the wait is driving me mad.

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Oct 02 '22

Feel your pain brother. Same boat, approaching 3rd week now still nothing past initial review. Crossing fingers for both of us.

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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Oct 02 '22

Expect a 3 month wait from the date that updated on the portal.

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u/YogurtStorm Oct 02 '22

Crap. Losing hope of getting a handgun, sighh

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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Oct 02 '22

Sorry to be the bearer of bad news. This is definitely something that had to be done a little bit sooner, seems as though everyone rushed to get it done last minute and unfortunately there's some gnarly delays currently.

Booked all my courses the literal day that I heard of potential ban, didn't want to leave it to risk. Sorry buddy! Still many sweet restricted firearms to choose from though, not a total loss.

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u/YogurtStorm Oct 02 '22

Yeah at least it'll be done lol. I guess I'll be ready if ever this shit gets reverted by some future government but I'll hold back on my expectations for the time being

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

What Province? Some are 2 weeks, others are months.

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u/TheSmallSlice Oct 02 '22

Has anyone gotten PAL's approved in Ontario this weekend? I'm still waiting just over 2 weeks now since cc was charged, been working on my hunter's course to help bide the time but it's hard to be patient they took my money I just want the darn license already. Which I'm sure many of you feel the same.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 02 '22

It will be months. CFO Ontario is provincial under the OPP, and like many provincial services underfunded and understaffed. They don't even answer the phones.

Two or three months. Sorry to bring you the bad news.

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u/ckerr08 Oct 02 '22

I as well have been waiting over 2 weeks since credit card charge. I know they are backed up but I also know people have had their card charged and been issued a card within a week. There seems to be no rhyme or reason on how they approve pals in ontario

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u/TheSmallSlice Oct 02 '22

I guess my thing is like if its at the stage of them taking the money for the application and its gone through the initial review or what ever it is what do they do after that to get it to being approved? Like how long or how much time do they need to spend on that part cause you would think it'd only take maybe a couple hours or (minutes even???) and then they can move onto the next one, I mean I have no idea what the process is but I just have a feeling that whatever they are doing there's probably a good chance is like the least efficient way you could possibly run it as like you said ckerr08 if they are just picking ones at random and......doing.....something? with it? Like what? Honestly I'd love to know how many they approve in a single work day, I know they are backed up and short staffed but it is getting a just a little bit ridiculous.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 02 '22

CFOON will search police and court records, maybe phone your SO and guarantors. They just have thousands of investigations in front of yours.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 02 '22

I also know people have had their card charged and been issued a card within a week

Yup, that was before the rush, before COVID, before DoFo and his all clown circus.

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u/ckerr08 Oct 02 '22

This was last month. Not pre COVID, not before dofo.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 02 '22

Something is wrong with your friends statement then. It's been four months plus for two years now.

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u/ckerr08 Oct 02 '22

I work with him, I was at the post office when he sent his application, I was with him when his credit card was charged and I have seen his card in his hand. I have no reason to come here and make things up. I know you have lots of knowledge on this, I’m not doubting that, I’m just stating facts on what I’ve seen.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 02 '22

That is totally out of line with what others have reported. That's about how long mine took four years ago.

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u/ckerr08 Oct 03 '22

Yes I understand that. It’s what makes me wonder what is actually going on. That and the fact that they don’t respond to email and the don’t answer the phone makes it frustrating. I know they are busy and I am a fairly patient person but seeing this bothers me. All I want to do is hunt on my own, take my kids out with me and start a small collection of cool guns.

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u/TheSmallSlice Oct 03 '22

Exactly what I want to do, been going out observing while my friends hunt for the last 3 years I think now, and I'm so close and yet I still don't actually know where mine or anyone else's applications are in the pipe line and how long it'll take, like will it be some time this week, will it be some time this month or will it be 3+ months from now?. Very frustrating especially seeing others get approved every passing day who submitted theirs around the same time as me and or get their CC's charged later then mine did.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 02 '22

I dunno who is downvoting this conversation but stop it, voting is not a popularity contest but how a comment adds to the conversation.

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u/bdansan Oct 03 '22

My credit card was charged last October, I still don't have my PAL.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Took around 11 months to get mine for some reason. BC here. I have to renew 2023.

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u/KC5500 Oct 03 '22

I emailed because mine cc got charged sept 1 and they said it could take up to 9 months. Ontario

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u/iamcorvin nb Oct 02 '22

How long does a renewal take? I submitted in June and payment was taken at that time, status is "We have completed the initial review of your firearms licence application. If additional information is required, you will be contacted. Please check the status again at a later date."

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u/DJ_Necrophilia Oct 03 '22

I've submitted my renewal in March and it's saying the same thing as yours

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u/TactleneckCAN Oct 02 '22

Repost since I posted at the end of last week's thread.

Do I need to call the CFP and use the main line transfer option to initiate a private restricted transfer (1-4-2), or can I call my provinces CFO directly (1-1-ext)?

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Oct 02 '22

I have only ever been able to get through when using the extension - in Alberta anyway.

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u/TactleneckCAN Oct 03 '22

Answered my own question. Got through the phone and CFO says they can't initiate, you need to talk to the transfer unit (1-4-2).

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u/beckspayne Oct 03 '22

Hey guys. So here's the thing: my girl and I are currently touring Canada and we will be attending the CFSC next weekend. Signing up for the course was already a fight (since they claimed you need a Canadian address to even participate the CFSC) and I have a hunch that the process going forward will be even more difficult.

Has anybody here experience applying for a PAL as a non-resident from outside of Canada? What problems should I be prepared for and what should I consider when applying? TIA!

PS: The letter of good conduct is not an issue. I need this all the time, and we have a standardized procedure for this.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

I don’t know the hoops they had to jump through but I have a friend from India and one from UK, both non resident. Both hold RPAL/PAL now. So I know it’s possible.

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u/InterviewSenior6127 Oct 03 '22

Man I’ve called twenty times now get disconnected every time

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u/TheSunshineVampire Oct 05 '22 edited Oct 05 '22

*RPAL APPLICATION UPDATE*

Already held PAL, application for RPAL upgrade, NB resident.

Timeline

July 16, 2022 Took RPAL course in Nova Scotia

July 18, 2022 sent expedited letter with RPAL application to RCMP processing in Miramichi, NB

July 19, 2022 letter received by processing center (letter tracking confirmed)

Sep 26, 2022 RCMP website updates my application info, shows they received application on July 19, 2022, states that application has passed initial review, check back later for updates. My credit card was charged the application fee on Sep 26, 2022 as well.

Oct 5, 2022 RCMP website updates my application info, shows that my application has been processed and issued, card should arrive in 2 weeks.

*11 weeks from receipt of my RPAL application until website showed processed*

There is hope people, the regulations have not changed as yet for the handgun freeze, keep your fingers crossed.

Now for my own question:

I think I remember reading somewhere that once you application is approved / processed and you are awaiting the RPAL card, you can figure our your new RPAL # by modifying digit(s) to your existing PAL, so that you can use that new RPAL # to purchase a handgun and start the transfer process. Can someone clarify this for me.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 05 '22

You could call and ask for your new number, if asked tell them your club needs it for insurance.

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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Oct 07 '22

pal timeline application received may 5 cc charged June 15 approved Oct 7

called my mp 2 weeks ago. they lit a fire under the cfos ass. I'm in ontario. I'd advise you to do the same. I sent a polite email stating the wait times are bullshit and completely unacceptable. they did their thing and a boom 2 weeks later I got a call from the local cfo and was approved over the phone.

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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 07 '22

Congrats!

I hate that we have to be squeaky wheels to get anything done, but here we are.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

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u/Grimmerthan Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 03 '22

There's a high degree of uncertainty. I doubt you can 'make sure'.

If you get through to the CFP, you should be able conference call someone in. I and many other people have done it.

I don't know about email of the transfer form. RCMP site states addressed mail, however there is perhaps a fax number. Look here and here.

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u/OppositeMother5328 Oct 02 '22

Hi, question. At what point, should the seller get paid?

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u/Grimmerthan Oct 02 '22

Ideally, when the buyer and sell agree. Choices seem to be upfront, split, COD.

Both sides of the deal should be working to minimize risk to some degree.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

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u/oggb46 Oct 03 '22

I would try to find the provincial rules for shooting at your friends cottage. As for spots, anyone who knows a spot wouldn’t share it. Too many people knowing leads to the spot getting shut down most of the time.

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u/layer11 Oct 03 '22

Anyone have any recommendations for models or brands for a person who is new to the hobby of collecting and target shooting?

I'd like to start off with something that isn't going to be overpowered for a newbie, but also hopefully something that will remain useful throughout my life as a hobby target shooting weapon.

I'm open to just about anything, although for target shooting I'm not so sure that I'll ever end up with a shotgun - probably just rifles and if I'm lucky handguns.

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u/StormChaser94 Oct 03 '22

A Ruger 10/22 is a good start off rifle that should last and doesnt have a huge price tag

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u/layer11 Oct 03 '22

Awesome, looks pretty good and Ruger is a name even a newbie like me has heard of, so it's kind of reassuring in addition to the recco.

Thanks!

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u/cattabliss bc Oct 03 '22 edited Oct 03 '22

I read the same recommendation for a first firearm some years ago and wish I got one then. Prices only go up. I'm happy with my alternative 22 rifle (Rem 597) but the 10/22 receiver has a big aftermarket, allows a bit of modularity so you can have different styles of the same gun, with new goodies to buy and add to your rifle, even years on. Good pick.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Dose anyone know where/ who I can send my Glock 17 slide to get cut to be optic ready?

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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 04 '22

Black Box Customs seems to do great work. If I ever get my CZs that’s where I’m sending them.

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Wow just check them out there legit✅ thanks a lot!

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u/InterviewSenior6127 Oct 05 '22

So did anything get announced in regards to oic?

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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 05 '22

Peep the politics thread, but seems like nothing of consequence for today.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 05 '22

Sign up with The CCFR, they'll keep you updated.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Court date set.

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u/RydNightwish Oct 05 '22

What are some small earplugs that are rated for shooting? I have a good set of browning over the ears for my pistols but I find them too bulky to get a good cheek weld with most of my rifles.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 06 '22

Decibullz, available at fine woodworking stores.

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u/RydNightwish Oct 06 '22

Thanks. I will check them out.

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u/iloveneuro Oct 07 '22

Seconding decibullz, also available on amazon. They are molded to your ear and have passive acoustic filters that work great. Their impulse rating is suitable for firearms-level noise.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

Question. I just received word via the RCMP portal that my RPAL is in the mail. Do you guys think I’d be able to start the process of purchasing a handgun with my license number only? If I’m able to call and get the license number.

Hoping I’ll be able to snag one before the federal ban.

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u/panzermeister36 Oct 07 '22

you'll need to know the number if you're buying from a business. For a private sale, you'll also likely need the expiration date, which should be your birthday in 5 years.

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u/_Connor Oct 07 '22

The vast majority of websites only ask for the number.

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u/TheSunshineVampire Oct 07 '22

I don't have my card yet, the part of the number they ask for is only the 1st 8 digits, same number as my previous PAL, the expiry date is listed under your profile on the website.

I purchased a handgun with just my existing number and new expiry date.

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u/FRED040513 Oct 07 '22

I plan on buying CLP when either my oil or solvent runs out. Is Hoppe's Boresnake CLP any good? It's the only CLP at my local Canadian Tire. I'm mainly looking for good rust protection.

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u/kohny53 Oct 02 '22

Anyone from Nova Scotia know how long the restricted transfers are taking? TIA!

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u/FRED040513 Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 02 '22

Quick question, how often do I need to reapply oil and solvent on my boresnake and how often should I wash it?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 02 '22

You only want a molecule thick layer of oil in your barrel or none at all.

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u/OppositeMother5328 Oct 02 '22

whats is the process of private sale for restricted. so far I know i will call RCMP and get a reference #, but at which point where should i get paid? Before initiation or after?

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u/OppositeMother5328 Oct 02 '22

Thanks for the reply. If its local, its not a problem for me. Buyer is from the pacific and I’m from the prairies.

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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Oct 02 '22

Always payment first. You wouldnt get a buyer to go put a car in their name prior to getting payment, same applies here but more important. Payment first 100%.

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

Better get that done tomorrow. The expectation is the freeze goes into effect on Tuesday.

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u/remms123 Oct 03 '22

How long did some of you wait for your first restricted transfers pre insanity?

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u/panzermeister36 Oct 03 '22

Wait times for transfers to be approved pre-June? In Ontario...4-6 weeks maximum. 3 weeks is what I recall. Now it's 4-6 months.

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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Oct 03 '22

NS was on 24 hour turnaround prior to the craze 👏👏 They're still killing it though honestly.

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Each province is different. In Alberta, if you called, it was immediate. Often without calling it was 1h.

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u/bevin88 Oct 03 '22

can you still get a RPAL or has that ship sailed?

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u/BlackWidowMac Oct 03 '22

RPAL, yes. Handgun? Good luck.

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u/bevin88 Oct 03 '22

haha awesome! and shit!

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

In addition to what others mentioned, an RPAL will let you borrow a handgun from someone.

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u/Omw23 Oct 03 '22

I been waiting since April to get my pal in Ontario they charged my cc in the end of July. Anyone else same situation?

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u/[deleted] Oct 03 '22

Yep, charged May31st, still stuck at the first review stage

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Mine was approved today

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u/TWINTURBO-EG33 Oct 03 '22

Mine was issued last week, hopefully you will get yours soon! Maybe try send CFO an email?

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

Anyone know what transfers BC is processing right now?

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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 04 '22

I recently bought a handgun and called the shop to get my Transfer Ref # and their best guess was about 2 months for BC … but anything is possible.

The shop was Prophet River, and I actually spoke to the woman that does the transfers. She said the one way you can expedite things is by forwarding the Transfer Notification from the RCMP to the shop whenever you do get it. Other than that it’s a waiting game or taking your chances calling the CFO for them to jam it through, but it helps to have a good reason (moving soon, an upcoming class you’re going to need to cancel, etc).

BTW, I’ve talked to two people at Prophet River and they were both super helpful and courteous. Props to them because I’m sure they get a million calls a day about handgun transfers that they have no control over.

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u/VTKoganeR2 Oct 04 '22

It looks like my CC got charged on Sept 15th. Timeline-wise (for BC anyways) how long til it gets approved and how do I check?

I tried logging into the CFP Individual Web Services and it's not accepting my login details (in License Applicant--says "We do not have any information that matches this data"). Should I call the BC CFO?

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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Oct 04 '22

Usually around 3 months from date of cc charge.

If it's around that 3 month mark then sure, otherwise I'd hold off on calling. System might just be having some issues currently.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 04 '22

It should show in IWS once you have been charged. Odd. It will take months but you should be able to log in.

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u/UnrulyCitizen Oct 04 '22

Hey, I had a question about slugs. The Challenger Target Slugs have no indication on whether they can be fired out of a full choke barrel. I have a fixed full choke and wanted to know if it would be alright to fire out of that. Their other slugs for hunting say that any choke is fine, so I don't think there would be any issues with it. Let me know if I'm wrong though, I don't want to blow up...

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u/voodoopriest Oct 05 '22

Yes, you can fire a slug through a full choke, and it’s relatively
safe (ALWAYS read the ammunition advice). However, since a full choke is
narrower, it may wear out quickly or fracture with repeated use. Some
rifled slugs will tell you they can be fired through any choke but
mention that improved cylinder chokes get the best performance usage.
Rifled slugs can be designed to deform through the narrower choke, but
will lose both power and accuracy relative to a cylinder or improved
cylinder choke.

Source: https://aimingexpert.com/can-you-fire-a-slug-through-a-full-choke/

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u/justsomeguy1919 Oct 05 '22

Hi there, question. My license has been issued as per the website. Am I able to call and get my RPAL number to initiate a transfer? Or will they not give me the number on the phone? Thanks in advance!

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u/TWINTURBO-EG33 Oct 05 '22

If you can get hold of someone in CFP you should get your number. Dealers only need your number and some personal info to initiate a transfer, however private sales needs both the seller and you to call the CFP. Do it at 9 am and grab something today before the transfer freeze come out ! There should be a few P10 left in some stores.

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u/NorthernLeaf Oct 05 '22

I'm applying for a PAL & RPAL license for the first time. I sent in my application about a month ago. When I go on the website to check my application status, it says they don't have any information that matches the data.

I called last week and got through to someone who said to just wait until they charge my credit card and then call back a week after that. I just want to know that they've received my application, but he wasn't able to give me any information about that.

Is this normal? Am I doing something wrong when signing in to check the status? When it asks for my first name, last name, and place of birth, I'm capitalizing the first letter and the rest lower case. Is this stuff case sensitive? I've tried a few different combinations and have not had any luck.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 05 '22

There is no chance that a letter addressed to the RCMP was "lost" by Canada Post workers.

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Oct 05 '22

It took me 3 months before they charged my CC and finally showed up on the website (App sent June 24 express mail, and the website did not update until Sept 15) so you will probably wait another month or two. I know it's a torture to wait and you get restless checking the website every day... Hang in there!

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u/canucklurker Oct 05 '22

Alberta Restricted Transfer - Initiated July 9th, Received October 4th. Almost 3 months.

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u/Fear_The_Batman Oct 05 '22

I also purchased July 9th. But in Ontario, predicted completion of transfer according to spreadsheet is November 15th.

Which is much better than two weeks ago when it said January 28th

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u/HemiJay_Toronto Oct 05 '22

Mine has gone from January 23-25 to Christmas to Remembrance Day to next week.

I’m glued to my email at this point.

Ontario June 9

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u/mithrajr Oct 05 '22

For Howa rifle owners, Does Howa have a good aftermarket support in Canada? In case you need parts or upgrades, how easy it is compared to other more popular brands?

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

PAL renewal: if it’s taking a long time to process and mine expires 2023, should I be renewing like 6 months before it expires?

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u/BillionNewt Oct 06 '22

Personally I'm planning on renewing 364 days before expiry

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u/FRED040513 Oct 06 '22

What is the best rust prevention product? I got my first firearm and I want to protect it as much as I can. Also, should I remove the stock (CZ 457 Lux) to apply the product to the inside mechanism and underneath the barrel to protect them as well? Also, how often should I be applying said product?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 06 '22

Teflon

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u/jaredmn Oct 06 '22

Try calling at 11am. I got through first time after being on hold for 10 minutes, and 11am also worked for someone else I suggested it to.

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u/SharkSaver Oct 06 '22

Is Firearms Outlet Canada super backed up on shipping? Or does anyone have any insight into how they are doing? I sent them my transfer approval, they confirmed receipt of my email, and said it will be couple days to a couple weeks until my restricted is shipped out. It’s been two weeks and there’s been no word. They also told me not to call or email cause it slows them down.

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u/panzermeister36 Oct 06 '22

I would at least wait until 3 full weeks has passed before contacting them. As you said, they told you it could take "a couple of weeks".

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u/ElectricLion33 on Oct 06 '22

Looking to send in my PAL application next week. Does anyone know what the credit card charge comes back as? Does it say firearms or anything like that? I'm currently on a shared credit card and I'd like to keep the transaction discreet. Thanks.

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u/KC5500 Oct 06 '22

It says RCMP-CFP

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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Oct 07 '22

What is "the firearm" on a Glock 48? I see a serial number on the plastic lower frame. But I'm surprised to see a serial number on the barrel too?

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u/Emotional-Bath-4506 Oct 07 '22

Does anyone know legal places to plink in the wild in BC?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 07 '22

Not covered in the CFSC? Avoid harrassing the hunters, that's covered in hunter safety course.

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u/Mitchmac21 Oct 09 '22

You must be in Vancouver…

Just about any logging road outside of civilization.

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u/deletekeemstar Oct 07 '22

Dovetail scope mount for savage a22?

I bought a Simmons 22 mag scope, but my a22 came with Weaver mounts.

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u/PhatPawley Oct 07 '22

Who do I call to get my pal number ? The main line or the CFO?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 07 '22

Either one, good luck getting through. Numbers are in this thread, below.

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u/DJigli Oct 07 '22

Quick CFSC question. Located in Vancouver area BC.

I wanted to take CFSC/CRFSC course myself for PAL, and I wanted to take my son as well. He is 9yo. He begun to express interest for guns and has a bb rifle for a year now, I want him to take the course for strictly education purposes, so no PAL involved for him until he is 12yo.

So far I've tried three course classes and they don't allow it. Do you guys know any academy here in Lower Mainland, BC that would take such a deal?

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u/jaredmn Oct 07 '22

Aside from the basic safety instruction, the course has a lot of coverage of legal requirements. I was a pretty smart kid, but I think at 9yo, most of that stuff would have gone over my head. My advice, take the course yourself and get your licence, then spend the next three years teaching him the course content yourself so by the time he can take it, it’ll be a breeze for him. In the meantime, take a look at Project Mapleseed. It’s open to all ages. Sorry, I know this isn’t the response you were looking for.

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u/DJigli Oct 07 '22

Quite the contrary, this information is useful as I have not been to course before. I expected there would be explanation of gun parts, functions and the acronyms hands-on. If it's a lot of legal stuff, it sure would be boring to him.

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u/jaredmn Oct 07 '22

You do get some instruction on parts and some hands-on with disabled firearms, but I think for someone that age, there are better ways to get interesting hands-on experience.

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u/willy9123 Oct 07 '22

Anyone knows the transfer speed for Quebec for restricted firearms? I sold to someone in Quebec back in June and I still haven’t received anything. Does anyone know their CFO extension? Thanks

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

At the start of the week QC CFO was working on transfers from June 14th-16th. Told me my June 27th transfer approval was a few weeks away if that helps.

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u/jaredmn Oct 08 '22

Absolutely not.

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u/GanjaPirate1513 Oct 08 '22

So I bought some handguns from online and they asked where I would bring them. I put in the club I planned on shooting at but am now going somewhere else. Should I wait until they arrive to set them up for this new club or can contact cfo and they switch it over ASAP?

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u/panzermeister36 Oct 08 '22

It shouldn't matter too much, unless you live in Quebec. At the time you spoke to them, you had one club in mind, so you provided accurate information. Your ATT should allow you to take them to any provincially recognized regardless, so that could be the one you mentioned to them or the new one.

Unless you live in Quebec, then you don't really need to be registered with a range. But, if you told them you're acquiring it for target shooting, they at least want to know you're going to a range (otherwise you may have to register as a collector). The range can be any range though...and in booking a time there you will give enough evidence that you are target shooting in the event of an audit, which is not really likely to actually happen. Don't worry too much. But you could always call to let them know, no harm in that apart from the difficulty you'll have in calling in right now.

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u/ConfidenceVast9 Oct 09 '22

didnt expect to find you in this forum lol I used to watch your model vids

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u/DJ_Necrophilia Oct 08 '22

I have the opportunity to grab either a girsan mc28 or a glock 48 next week. They're the same price, but im not sure which would be the better buy

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u/[deleted] Oct 04 '22

I bought my first restricted today does the store initiate the transfer?

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u/BillionNewt Oct 04 '22

Probably look for a good range to join, I'm finding it to be pretty valuable. Lots of disciplines on the range calendar at BRRC with knowledgeable and friendly community organized around each one. Lots to do.

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u/cowontag11 Oct 04 '22

In conversation with someone that works at a range the reason they no longer allow non members is walk-ins have damaged the range and equipment whether intentional or not. Walk-ins need to be supervised whereas members at this particular range have demonstrated safe handling with a club level safety course.

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u/[deleted] Oct 05 '22

Urban Tactical in Brantford. You can book non member slots during the week for about $50 and they allow you to bring a guest without a PAL for an additional fee

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u/Psnaps Oct 05 '22

Just got my student papers yesterday in the evening. I printed out the 5592 forms, however I’m hearing that first time pal submitters need to complete forms through paper and can’t do it digitally, is this true?

Is there any resource to help with completing the 5592 forms since it is my first time and it’s kind of overwhelming.

Also there’s a question about job loss, I recently walked out of a job due to it being toxic and not treating me well so I on my own accord left the situation. Should I mark down yes for the question regarding job loss?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 05 '22

The forms come with instructions, read them thrice and then again when you get stuck, then ask here.

Answer truthfully as deception is grounds for denial, you quit your job. Don't add any detail that is not directly asked for. This applies to any police interaction.

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u/[deleted] Oct 06 '22

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 06 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

A quick google search reveals:

With the main number all backed up I thought I would give this a bump.

1-800-731-4000

NB 6000.
AB 9026.
ONT 7503.
BC 9530.
Man 8004.
Q 7005.
NS 6505.

Address and FAX numbers

https://firearmrights.ca/en/legal-challenge/

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

Is it too late to take my CFSC+CFSRC and get a RPAL now?

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u/_Connor Oct 08 '22

I don't know why people think the only use for an RPAL is a handgun.

There's tons of rifles and 'smgs' that are classified as restricted and require RPALs. RPALs aren't going anywhere.

But you're not getting a handgun.

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

Too late, no.

Too late to get it to obtain a handgun, yes

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u/[deleted] Oct 07 '22

What if the freeze happens at some point in the future instead of immediately?

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u/OppositeMother5328 Oct 07 '22

You can still buy non-handgun restricted if thats your thing or if you need it for your occupation//guard//cbsa//police. I think?

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u/cowontag11 Oct 07 '22

Police Officers in Ontario not required to have a RPAL

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u/InterviewSenior6127 Oct 02 '22

Anyone know if the rumours about the freeze happening this Monday have any merit?

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u/[deleted] Oct 02 '22

The rumours I hear is this Tuesday.

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u/Adept-Detective-8749 Oct 03 '22

For those of you who are wondering. Bill C-21 hasn't passed. You can check out this link to see the status update. It hasn't finished the readings in the house and then needs to go through the senate.

https://www.parl.ca/legisinfo/en/bill/44-1/c-21

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u/fnsimpso Oct 04 '22

I found a gun I want on gunpost. Can someone walk me through what I do on my end to buy it? We've agreed on price, what details do I need from him and who do I have to call to my end of the transfer?

The seller appears well reviewed, but I am still leery of being scammed.

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u/mapleleafmcrae Oct 05 '22

Posting this here because I feel its a too broad for its own post, but I'm looking for scope recommendations. Just got a Tikka t3x lite in .270 win. and I'm going to be doing mainly target shooting with it at (roughly) 300 yards max (for now). Looking mainly at vortex optics for price, anyone have any recommendations?

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u/UnderstandingFirm432 Oct 06 '22

I am just getting started with the firearms and I am looking for a long range rifle.

Purpose would be long range target shooting, >500 yards. From my research, it looks like a 308 or 6.5CM would be the ideal for this distance.

Any recommendations around $600? Also, should I go for a lower caliber for starting and then reassess later and buy a 2nd one?

Thank you

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Oct 06 '22

Start with a 22, learn how to shoot.
Maybe attend Mapleseed. Get some lessons and coaching.

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u/panzermeister36 Oct 06 '22

Agreed...you don't "get started with firearms" shooting past 500 yards with a full-power rifle. Start small, develop skills, once you're decently accurate at 200 yards then look into upgrading your setup and progressing further

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