r/canadaguns • u/Ace_And_Jocelyn1999 • 20d ago
Gun and gear reviews What’s going on with Gunpost prices?
What makes people post their used guns for above new prices? I’m looking for a 10/22 brand new they’re about $419.99 in my area, but every post I’m seeing is like $500-$1000. Why would anyone pay more for a used gun? I’m not even talking about modified ones, or optics or anything. Just a standard wood stocked ruger 10/22 for like $800.
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u/bosnanic 20d ago
Just people with sunk cost fallacy.
In their head they paid MSRP + tax therefore they should be able to get that money back in full because it's "like new". Some people will happily wait 8 months instead of losing 10% on their original purchase.
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u/Cope180-Enjoyer 20d ago
Stupid greed. Real recognize real.
On the flip side if I list something for 450 and the MSRP is 500 I will block your ass if you offer me 400. It's already priced as QUICK SELL.
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u/Equal_Intern2322 20d ago
400 is fair for used if msrp is 500. Blocking for that is hilariously childish. Edit: Ive been priced out of sarcasm I think.
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u/NoFucksGiven0011 19d ago
Your product your price, whether someone pays that or not is a different thing.
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u/Doogie-Howser 20d ago
The Canadian Boomer Gun Owner belongs to one of two factions:
Fuck you buy my gun for $10,000
Fuck you sell your gun for $1.00
The worst Gun Owners wear both faces.
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw 19d ago
and yet buying and selling in the gun world is still somehow paradise compared to buying and selling on facebook marketplace. the need to have a PAL i guess means you are dealing with someone that has at least 2-3 brain cells.
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u/yummybunnybear 20d ago
I bet it's those poor husbands whose wives are forcing them to sell their guns: " look honey! I've been trying to sell it for months but it's a tough market!"
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u/Cope180-Enjoyer 20d ago
This is the only valid reasoning I think.
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw 19d ago
ive seen this comment a lot here over the years but i dont think anyone is actually doing that. people just over inflate the value of their guns. or maybe if im being generous its that they plan to haggle down
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u/Cope180-Enjoyer 19d ago
Buyers and sellers should meet at a mid-price. Market make it with negotiation. Sometimes you have to slap the ask.
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u/expatsaffer 20d ago
I have nothing to support this, but my theory is that people are buying them at the inflated prices to avoid having any paper trail that shows they made the purchase. They're willing to pay a premium if it avoids a gun store having the transaction on record if the government decides to continue to expand the bans in the future.
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u/scottsuplol 19d ago
I wouldn’t be surprised had some guy asking to skip the check for an extra 100 told him to kick rocks
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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw 19d ago
then again only a few years ago all you did was tell them your pal number or send a pic of it. there was never any issue selling and people trying to use stolen pals where easy to spot. canada hasnt magically become safe because i need to enter your personal info into a slow glitchy website.
if this was america no one would be bothering with the added pal check and tell the gov to kick rocks.
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u/f1vepointoh 19d ago
You are naive if you dont think the RCMP doesnt have access to gunpost PM's and account info. They know exactly who has what and whos sold what. Even if they arent legally allowed to they are doing it anyways. If they need to use it as proof for a case they will just get a warrant to cover their tracks lol. If i can go back and see msgs from 5 years ago so can they lol
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u/CringelordCameron 19d ago
The RCMP doesn't have access to gunposts private messages, the site owner is a member of the Canadian firearms community and isn't just giving up that information to them. It would also be super illegal for them to track private messages between individual owners. The RCMP dosent even have resources to deal with real criminals, they aren't monitoring gunpost 24/7. I've seen many ads that are straight up illegal and they ended up getting marked as sold with zero consequences for the seller.
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u/f1vepointoh 19d ago
While id love to believe that the owner of the site would tell the police to go fuck themselves thats not how it works. Wait till bill c22 becomes law. If he was smart he would have PM's auto delete every 30 days. At some point they are going to start coming for everybody whos got the prohibs. Every time some lunatic shoots up a school or public area there will be more political pressure and they are coming for the sks next
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u/NaiveTension4164 19d ago
Just saying here not everyone like uses gunpost I message orignally then usually end up on text none of my GP messages have my saying I’m for sure buying or selling any of the firearms I’ve posted or inquired about the rcmp can kick rocks if they look into my dm’s they can’t prove shit.
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u/AdeptArt 19d ago
I don't know about illegal. RCMP shows up with a warrant, what's the owner gonna do?
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u/Iokua_CDN 20d ago
Lots of folks dont search for the best price. They just go to an easy store close to them and likely pay jacked up prices. When its time to sell? Maybe they paid 600 for the 10/22, and think charging 500 is fair, when in reality, there are new ones now for 420.
Maybe that's the case. Of course there is also the possibility they are trying to rip off someone who doesn't know better. Either way, I ignore them. Definitely don't but from them.
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u/thecoolernameistaken 20d ago
Pricing higher because no pays asking price
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u/Ace_And_Jocelyn1999 20d ago
It’s reasonable to ask a bit above reasonable to leave room to haggle. Not 2-3x brand new
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u/escv_69420 19d ago
I doesn't matter what you're trying to buy used in this country, everyone is a kook and tries to sell any old random shit for at or over MSRP.
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u/Ace_And_Jocelyn1999 19d ago
Ironically the only deals I’ve found are on old shit, sporter lee-enfields, old .22s and shotguns from the 70s and earlier are still relatively cheap (often better than in stores).
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u/Eglitarian 20d ago
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u/Ace_And_Jocelyn1999 20d ago
My point exactly! If I can get that new for that price, why on earth would someone think it’s worth $500+ used!
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u/nammaheff 19d ago
Legit half the gunpost users are trash. Gunact is a legit prick. Why he has so many 5 star reviews I have no idea. Gunact I genuinely hope you read this, you don't move anything you're selling for a reason
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u/Ace_And_Jocelyn1999 20d ago
I always offer 75% of asking, but like I’m not offering $600 for a $400 gun.
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u/Massive_Expression_2 20d ago
Some guys don't know the value of what they're buying. Some guys like a private transaction cuz the model and serial number are not directly traceable to the buyer.
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u/Never_had_dream 20d ago
Firearms (legal) market in Canada sucks. It’s actually pathetic. Must be intentional.
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u/22GageEnthusiast 19d ago
There's a lot of sellers on there that just like to keep the price high on shit and never sell anything. My rule is that every month I drop the prices on all my listings until they're sold basically.
To be fair, I sell more random parts/accessories, ammo, optics, etc. than I do guns but my goal is always to get rid of something I don't need anymore and make a little bit of money doing it.
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u/swift_gilford 19d ago
The short answer is people are trying to recoup like 99% of what they spent. I'd argue a lot of items on gunpost are buyers remorse. I'd also not be surprised if a lot of people are in situations where they need to offload but don't want to offload (spousal requests, life changes etc) so they post abnormally high so it shows they are trying to sell but no one is willing to purchase.
The other issue is people don't monitor prices. In your example, stock 10/22s like you said are around $400 regular but they often go on sale in that $350 range easily (hell, even @ bass pro where prices are already over inflated). So seller probably bought at full pop and didn't realize they overspent nor are they looking at current pricing trends for new items. It's strictly "i paid x, so i expect to sell for x-10%".
This is where polite counteroffers come in and can go a very long way: "Hey, you have this listed for $X, but xyz stores have it listed for this brand new, would you be willing to let it go for y" vs "hey, your price is ass, i'll give you a spare button and some pocket lint for it"
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u/Not-a-Cranky-Panda 19d ago
Anyone can list something for sale at any price they want, it does not mean it'll ever sell.
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u/prosper_0 19d ago
Stuff that I want to sell, I post low-ish, and they usually move pretty fast. Stuff that I dont really want to sell but might be persuaded to, I'll post at higher prices. They still move, eventually. But in both cases, I pick 'reasonable' pricing, none of this 'more than Basspro is asking for the same thing, brand new, on the shelf right now'
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u/Alpha_Whiskey327 20d ago edited 20d ago
I put 3 like new safe pieces up at 15-30% off new and get hammered with offers at 35-50% of new. I'd rather just keep stacking things than sell a $2k rifle with a box of ammo through it for sub $1000. Townpost seems to have less of this. And CGN is in the middle for me. I hardly use GP and I think I'm starting to remember why. Maybe Im the one out to lunch. Could very well be.
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u/Iokua_CDN 20d ago
I suppose it depends on if you are using the price you paid or the price they go for now!
30% off what they go for now, for a basically new gun? I think that's a pretty good deal.
But if you bought it at 1000, and now they sell for 800, or go on sale for 700... suddenly the price don't look so good.
Then again, some people just like to fish with those low offers. Never know when a seller is desperate enough to take it
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u/NemrahG 20d ago
I feel like a lot of people do it because they hope to recoup the price they paid when they bought it, which includes taxes and stuff. Either way, its a used gun site, so they can ask whatever they want, doesn’t mean they’ll get it, and you can offer whatever you’re willing to pay.
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u/FedInformant 19d ago
Its been like that for a while. If you see something you like, make an offer for what you think is reasonable.alot of times people will bite. And if not, oh well
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u/undercoverinformant 19d ago
Real question is why haven’t you bought it for 419 locally instead. People prob asking for more due to upgraded parts or different materials . The one for 419 is pretty basic fyi
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u/Ace_And_Jocelyn1999 19d ago
I’m definitely going to, but thought it best to do my due diligence to find out if I could find a used one cheaper.
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u/Enough_Challenge7264 18d ago
Don't enter a market dictated by foreigners or retards. They can both fuc* right off and keep their abused gear.
A used gun is 30% less than new. Period. If the seller is stuck on "minty", or "this is the only one"...they're brain dead. Hard pass and look elsewhere.
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u/Bohdyboy 18d ago
What's going on with Canadaguns posts?
Why EVERY SINGLE DAY do people feel the need to point out that things are for sale somewhere for more than they think its worth? So don't buy. If it sells, then clearly it was priced correctly. That goes for anything, not just guns.
MODS:
Can you guys not start deleting these posts?
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u/HappyCan7250 10d ago
I already saw some guy on there trying to sell a Makasi (16" restricted model so direct import from US) for $3500. I think someone may have even posted it on here to laugh at.
Like yeah, no thanks, nobody wants to pay $1000 extra for a 16" model that has to be registered with this insane government. Why would I want a 16" barrel too that I could ONLY use at a range, when I could get an 18" for $1k less, and be able to take it into the bush with me? Stupid.
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u/Mysterious_Sleep7443 20d ago edited 19d ago
Sellers trying to rip off the newbies who dont know the prices
Cant wait to see the 5000$ Carmels and Makasis show up
A.B Bound is a prime example with his grossly overpriced lever actions that are bumped to the first page hourly it seems
What a joke