r/canadaguns Sep 25 '22

Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions

This thread will be used for the "new"-type questions, PAL/RPAL applications, references, CFSC/CFRSC requirements, storage/transport, or other general "new-to-me" firearms ownership questions.

In response to this thread, the community was quite positive for a thread to cover these subjects.

These threads will be stickied for a week, renewing every Sunday @ about 0600 AST. Previous threads here. Take a look, your question may have been answered!

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Thank you!

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u/HemiJay_Toronto Sep 28 '22

Called the Ontario CFO this morning. I actually had a couple of real questions, not the usual “how long? Speed me up!” Questions they have been fielding for a couple of months. Gist of the call was about once a private transfer is complete, how long do I have to go get it. The answer is that there is no time set in stone, just has to be reasonable. But the nice lady did say don’t leave it for a month, but a few days is not a problem. I did manage to give her my reference numbers (was hoping hoping hoping...) but alas, not yet done. I did ask her if they had any questions for me, but was told all appears in order. Now the good news - they are in every weekend now. And confirmed that they have hired contract positions. The nice lady I talked to is raking the OT and loving it. So things are moving along in Onterrible!

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u/panzermeister36 Sep 28 '22

thanks for the update! Some good news; I appreciate it

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u/TheSmallSlice Sep 28 '22

Still feels like it'll never come though 😪

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u/Afraid-Landscape5767 Sep 29 '22

PAL/RPAL got issued bit faster than expected. I'm in Ontario.

May 7-8 - CFSC/CRFSC course

June 15 (or so) - Received results

July 11 - Received by RCMP

Sept 21 - CC charged

Sept 29 - Checked IWS for the first time, says: "Your application has been processed and your licence has been issued. If you have not received your licence within 2 weeks please contact the Canadian Firearms Program Toll Free number"

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u/MLI691H Sep 29 '22

Nice! I am 10 days behind, hopefully it will go smooth for me.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

2.5 months, it must be getting faster.

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u/LePapaPapSmear Oct 01 '22

So something super weird just happened. I bought a handgun yesterday in Ontario and I just got the confirmation that the transfer was completed

I have 5 other handguns waiting since June so I am at a total loss how this one was done same day. Ref number 604XXXX

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u/BillionNewt Oct 01 '22

CFO having fun. Congrats on winning the same day transfer lottery

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u/west45 Oct 02 '22

Go buy a lottery ticket.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Alberta timeline

Application received May 12 2022

CC Charged Aug 12 2022.

Sent in missing info Sept 1 2022

Called Alberta CFO took 20 mins to get through and the approved it right then and there. Sept 23 2022.

Good bye bank account.

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u/Grimmerthan Sep 26 '22

Congrats. If you haven't been bookmarking sites already, you can flip through the sponsors/vendors/ads on Arsenal Force, Gunpost, and CanadianGunNutz. There seems to be a fair amount of handguns currently available. Not as broad a selection, perhaps, but still some awesome handguns.

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u/Bots_R_Us Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

THE EAGLE HAS LANDED ...

Y'all, I just got my license. I can't believe it. This started in March with my RPAL/PAL course. What a gauntlet (and not even as bad as others).

I have a unique case because I managed to screw up a reference phone number, but here are my specs for comparison/reference:

• BC Resident.• Received by RCMP 3-30.

• Reviewed by RCMP 6-24, phone number error found, letter sent instructing me to revise.

• Revised Application received by RCMP 7-7 (per Canada Post, *not reflected in my online record).

• Nothing happens for months, I start calling.

• Sept 15 I miraculously get a human on the phone, he corrects the # and it's immediately approved. What.

• Sept 27 card received.

I also just got my GC ID# so I guess it's off to the internet?!

Still in a bit of shock it finally happened.

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u/Bots_R_Us Sep 28 '22

Congrats!
Very close to the same time from approval to receiving as me. Good to hear for other people waiting.

I don't know if you're looking to get a handgun, but Ellwood Epps still has CZ P-09s (they get great reviews). I literally just ordered one, finger's crossed the paperwork goes through before the ban. I was also going to pickup a Canik TP9-SF but they literally sold out while I was looking around. For the past at least week they had 10+ and then BAM, sold out. Wild.

Cheers

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

Wow ON sucks compared to BC

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 28 '22

Largest population by far. Prices are a bit lower. Mountains are smaller. More lakes and freshwater.

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u/dadd_bodd Sep 28 '22

Damn I'm still waiting and they recieved my first application March 23 with a reference date error(wrong year) and I resent almost exactly at the same time as you and nothing has changed. I haven't been able to get through to RCMP as I sit on hold for about half an hour then get a "were experiencing a computer error" and the call ends. Tried calling many many times. Same result. So I've just been waiting and checking all the time. I called the CFO over a month ago and she said it seems it's still in their hands yet. I'm in MB

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u/SCMr_B Sep 26 '22

Wife and I finally got our CC's charged for our RPAL applications! Super thrilled that we're (hopefully..) just a number of weeks away now from getting the physical cards.

Alberta Timeline:

RPAL Application Sent: July 6, 2022

RPAL Application Received: July 11, 2022

CC Charged: September 21, 2022

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u/TheSunshineVampire Sep 26 '22

am just 5 days behind you here in NB.

Holding out hope we both get our applications approved in time.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 26 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

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u/Mitchmac21 Sep 26 '22

Is there one of these for BC?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 26 '22

☹️ according to the chart NAS guns took two weeks to initiate my transfer, "thanks" Dave.

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u/deletekeemstar Sep 25 '22

FINAL BC TIMELINE (non-restricted):

  • Sent application June 9th

  • Received June 14th

  • CC Charge/ Initial process August 30th

  • PAL issued September 2nd

-PAL DELIVERED September 20th (slower than usual, because of 2 long weekends in a row)

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u/RedBeardBuilds Sep 25 '22

Just regular PAL, not RPAL? Also in BC, they received my RPAL application May 24th, CC was charged August 15th, since then status still just says "We have completed the initial review of your firearms licence application." Wondering what the hell is taking so long.

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u/karnn Sep 25 '22

Same for me. What are next steps to figure out more information?

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u/RedBeardBuilds Sep 26 '22

"Check back at a later date for more information" or some shit. I suppose you could try calling or emailing them, good luck.

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u/Substantial-Cash-834 on Sep 26 '22

Seems like transfer approvals have been speeding up lately, even for Ontario, according to CGN. Over 4,000 went through last Saturday. At first my august purchases were estimated to take a year and now it’s January or February. Still far less than ideal but love to see it.

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u/jaredmn Sep 26 '22

I just had two transfers approved over the phone. I was on hold for about 5 minutes while she processed them and the registration certificate numbers ended up being 25 apart from each other. That would appear to mean that within a less-than-five-minute window, at least 25 transfers were processed across the country.

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u/Critical-Raccoon-473 Sep 26 '22

Business to private- ONT- June 6 transfer reference 59131xx- approved today

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 26 '22

16 weeks!

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u/Boogyman101 Sep 26 '22

I got fed up after 8 weeks, phone the local number, got 2 transfers approved one phone call, and phoned at 830 this morning and got 4 more approved, the lady was more then happy to do it

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u/TheSunshineVampire Sep 26 '22

PAL to RPAL Update.

Home: NB

Took RPAL course on July 16, 2022

RPAL delivered (tracking) to processing centre in Miramichi, NB on July 19, 2022.

RCMP Website shows the 1st update as of this morning September 26, 2022:

"We have completed the initial review of your firearms licence application. If additional information is required, you will be contacted. Please check the status again at a later date."

My credit card shows as charged September 26, 2022 as well.

Hopefully this thing gets done before the changes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Just over 2 months? That is an improvement.

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u/Swissmcmurray Sep 27 '22

Complete Alberta RPAL Timeline:

Sent: June 13

Recieved: June 21

CC Charged: September 8

License Issued: September 16

Card Recieved: September 26

Now we wait on restricted transfers 😞

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u/TheSunshineVampire Sep 27 '22

wow, just about a week between CC charge and license approval, you give me hope.

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u/MongooseLeader Sep 28 '22

First time I was able to login to my RPAL application today. Submitted July 20th. That makes today 70 days/10 weeks just to get the ball rolling. I’ll update once approved.

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u/416er Sep 28 '22

Ontario. PAL/RPAL

App received July 21st.

CC charged/ Initial review complete Sept 28th.

Fingers crossed.

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u/ckerr08 Sep 28 '22

My app was received june 30 Cc charged/ initial review sept 13

Still waiting. Hopefully soon. Good luck

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u/MLI691H Sep 28 '22

Same.

App received July 22. Initial review completed Sept 28. I need to call in and update my CC as it was compromised. Going to try and call tomorrow.

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u/nyg420 Sep 25 '22

Ontario timeline:

Application received: May 19

CC Charged: Aug 13

Still pending review. People with a later CC date have already been approved and got their licenses. All my questions were No's. Starting to think there is no hope I'll get it in time.

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u/Western-Garage4193 Sep 25 '22

You have more hope than others. Anyday now. Get that pal number once it is approved. Then max out that credit card.

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u/nyg420 Sep 25 '22

Yea I emailed the CFO and got no response.

Meanwhile, I dialy check the last few remaining handguns in stock and watched their inventory go from the low double digits to sold out or 1 in some cases. I have zero hope anything will be available whenever they decide to get off their ass and stamp my papers.

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

Any updates on QUEBEC transfers?!? This fucking turd of a province, so fucking frustrating. At the 3 month mark now (NOT 1st restricted purchases) since purchase. Anyone get transfers through lately and what was date of purchase? Thank you!

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u/Elitesnicker Sep 26 '22

out of the many type 81 LMG disassembly videos i could scour, not one shows how to remove the cleaning rod. how do i perform this closely guarded trade secret among type 81 owners?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 26 '22

Is it not exactly like a type 56? flex rod down, pull it out.

But you really don't want to use a steel rod against your barrel.

/u/huntinggearguy

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Sep 26 '22

Alberta Timeline:

PAL Application Sent: June 24, 2022

PAL Application Received: June 30, 2022

CC Charged: Sept 15, 2022

Crossing fingers now... I keep trying to call the line, but I get the "We're sorry we are unable to take your call" or, the handful of times I do get manage to get through and wait on hold, it just hangs up after 8-15 minutes.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

I have a pending transfer for a restricted firearm in BC. Is there a excel sheet tracking where BC CFO's progress are at on transfers. My ref# is 5997xxx. I purchased on Aug6 and transfer initiated on Aug15.

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u/connor2557 bc Oct 01 '22

pal finally got approved and issued sent April 26 received may 3rd initial review aug 3rd issued sept 30 BC so excited

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u/[deleted] Sep 25 '22

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u/iloveneuro Sep 25 '22

Yup, there is no downside to having your restricted privileges beyond the extra cost for the course.

The biggest advantage beyond being able to get restricted is if a non-restricted you own ends up getting declassified then it’s easy to deal with compared to if you don’t have your RPAL.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 25 '22

It's always worth trying, you will get your license, will you get a handgun? Maybe next government.

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u/Shorinji23 Sep 25 '22

For sure it is. You'll have access to other restricted firearms for now, and you'll be ready to hit the ground running when the transfer freeze is repealed by a competent government.

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u/GanjaPirate1513 Sep 25 '22

Is it worth sending an email to the cfo(Ontario) or just to call? I got my Pal issued and not recieved but I am impatient and want a handgun before all are gone. Seen you can request your number for club purposes. Hopefully it shows up tomorrow.

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u/Grimmerthan Sep 26 '22

Send an email, and then start calling. If you get an email answer before talking to someone, stop calling :)

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u/papaknowsit Sep 26 '22

I am new to this hobby. I (finally) received my RPAL about 6 weeks ago and since then, I have purchased a few pistols. Waiting for adoption papers to bring my babies home. I will join a club when they are with me. My question is this, do gun club members typically trade their firearms, at the range, for a few rounds to check them out? There are some firearms out there that I am interested in but not sure if I would like them once I have tried them. Process of buying and selling is too much of a hassle to buy something I don't like.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Some people are happy to let you try out one of their firearms, some are not. I would never ask to try someone's firearm, most agreeable people will offer if you get this chatting.

What Province are you in? Some provinces you need a range membership before they will approve a transfer.

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u/papaknowsit Sep 26 '22

I am in Ontario. I believe I dont need a membership. I asked at the shop and they said no.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Correct. Ontario does not need a range membership.

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u/iloveneuro Sep 27 '22

I recommend starting the process of getting your range membership ASAP. Lots of places are full and have waitlists.

Also I would say chat up some people but if they seem disinterested, back off. Some people just want to go out and do their thing. I would personally find it super sketchy if someone walked up and asked to shoot my gun.

Some people go out to the range to talk to other people about guns so don’t be afraid to say hi.

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u/peterpancan1 Sep 27 '22

Newbie here,

License approved, should receive it in 2 weeks or less.

I'm thinking my first will be a Mossberg 88 12 GA,

what would you recommend next? Budget about 500-1000

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u/IndigoSypnopsis Sep 27 '22

Just got approved over the phone!!

Final BC Timeline for me:

Application Received by RCMP: Apr 7 Status Updated to Initial Review: July 7 CC Charged: July 21 Approved: Sep 27

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

So I took my restricted course at the beginning of June, sent off my application for my restricted asap after the course and patiently waited hoping to beat the freeze. My new PAL card showed up and the fucking rcmp sent me a new non-restricted. What the hell happened here? I know the paperwork was filled out correctly as I had my references check it over. I can't get through to the rcmp on the phone line, and they won't respond to any emails. Has this every happened to anyone before?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 28 '22

They will send you a new card when you buy your first restricted. There are a few handguns still available but you should buy today.

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u/iloveneuro Sep 28 '22

Are you 100% sure it only says non-restricted on the back? Did you keep a copy of what you sent so you can double-check what you put?

I’m sorry man. If you filled it all out correctly you’ll need to call them (CFO) to sort it out. There’s a chance they’ll be able to amend it and you can make a purchase using your license # (which will stay the same).

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

I did not keep a copy which was a foolish move but I was only thinking about getting it in the mail. It will be a long day on hold for me tomorrow.

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u/ccwzz Sep 28 '22

New PAL holder looking for advice on first non-restricted. Already ordered a 9mm that will arrive in a few months/years. Mainly looking for range use with very small possibilities of hunting later in my life. I'm thinking about pump ~500cad (win sxp, m500, nova, etc) I'm leaning towards relative conpact 20ga as I'm concerned about recoils and don't really want a 4ft gun to carry to the range and store. (12ga recoil could be significant especially with smaller barrel) because i promised my significant other i won't buy another one in a long time so Id want this one to last and be versatile. Any advice? Thanks

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u/Scopequest Sep 28 '22

A 20 ga is much less versatile than a 12ga. Also the ammo for 20 is less easy to find and still costs as much or more than 12ga. I guess my advice is get a 12 before a 20.

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u/Azariahz Sep 28 '22

Just received my Ontario transfer from June 6th, #5913XXX.

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u/HemiJay_Toronto Sep 28 '22

I’m 5925xxx and was told it should be a couple of weeks. Which is far better than what it was before - around Christmas.

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u/Azariahz Sep 28 '22

Hope yours comes through soon! 4 months is pretty crazy, I have one that's 5977XXX that I'm not expecting until this time next year.

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u/HemiJay_Toronto Sep 28 '22

I gave them my ref number for one bought at TACCOM on Sept 10 (wasn’t sent to CFP until the 18th) and she said it will be a couple of months. So I’m thinking you will get that 5977xxx in November

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

Can anyone give me some tips to get through to the BC cfo?

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

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u/Bots_R_Us Sep 28 '22

I live in BC and got through to the Federal (no Provincial) CFO by calling after 4.

I don't know if the time had anything to do with it (I just got frustrated with never getting through calling earlier) and thought I'd give that a shot and it worked the first time – I did still have to wait 30 minutes though. They resolved my problem over the phone and my application was approved.

I've never called the BC CFO, but I've seen two numbers posted for them:
1 778 571 3400
1 800 731 4000 x9530

Don't know if this helps at all, but good luck.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

Thanks!

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

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u/KC5500 Sep 30 '22

CFO Ontario closed today? Says on recording. Been trying all week to get through

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u/ckerr08 Sep 30 '22

Federal Holiday

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22 edited Sep 30 '22

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u/BillionNewt Sep 30 '22

They're working, transfers coming in. Whenever it's theweekend or holidays, transfers flow in way faster, most likely because they dont have to deal with phones.

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u/TheSmallSlice Sep 30 '22

Hmm interesting, I'm waiting for my pal so if their doing transfers I'll still be waiting, but what can you do but wait guess.

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Sep 30 '22

I hope some good souls there took the overtime and are pushing these through today!

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u/_Connor Sep 30 '22

It's a federal holiday for 'truth and reconciliation.'

All government employees are off.

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u/pats_28 Oct 01 '22

Looking to Buy an SKS

I’m in the market for an SKS are there specific things to look out for and avoid. Or are all the SKSs the same?

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

anybody got transfers approved lately? in BC?

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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 01 '22

Also curious, just purchased a couple and now I’m wondering how many months I’m looking at.

Does anyone know if there’s a spreadsheet?

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u/oggb46 Oct 01 '22

Yea i purchased a few restricted back in july and early august. Still waiting to hear back.

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u/TheChroniclesOfTaint Oct 01 '22

Started August 24th called in Sept 26 and they approved my transfer, in BC.

Edit: date

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u/H0NOUr Sep 25 '22
  • Application received July 11
  • Credit card charged Sept 21
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u/deletekeemstar Sep 26 '22

I already own a Mossberg 500. Should I buy a maverick 88 security as my bear/bush gun, or should I just get an 18.5 in barrel for the 500 (and save 100$)?

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u/ThatBigFuckoffTree Sep 26 '22

People will disagree with me but I would say get the Maverick 88. That way you can subject the cheaper gun to more abuse and keep your 500 safe.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 26 '22

Buy a used 500. Bush gun plus spare parts.

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u/deletekeemstar Sep 26 '22

Yeah that makes sense, especially for bear defence. I wouldn't want to fiddle with an unfamiliar crossbolt safety in a high stress situation lol

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u/ZealousidealNews9256 Sep 26 '22

Long shot I know.. after not listening to my about canik pistols (buy now uncle, they’re gonna be gone) he’s decided now he wants one.. anyone seen any left anywhere ?

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

Elwood epps has 5 canik TP9 SF. Wolverine supplies has a few as well it seems.

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u/cowontag11 Sep 26 '22

As someone new you probably won't see cleaning as a chore - at least right away. I personally shoot Sellier & Belott because I don't enjoy field striping my guns. Its the cleanest ammo I've ever shot.

Buy a Uplula as the M&P mags are almost impossible to get the 10th round in by hand.

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u/ClassyCilantro Sep 27 '22

Nice choice in pistol. I just got my RPAL in August and that was my first purchase.

I know I'm probably not seeing mine until next year but I'm chewing at the bit waiting to punch holes in paper.

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u/Boogyman101 Sep 26 '22

Buy a bit of both and see what you like, they say 124gr has less recoil, but it is all personal preference, 115 and 124 will cycle perfectly, just buy some decent ammo and try and find it cheap and just start shooting, fundamentals first then start worrying about ammo, most guys like cci blazer, but winchester white box is good for practice and I haven't heard anything bad about PMC bronze

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

The M&P 2.0 should eat most anything you feed it. Typically target shooters like the lighter 115g ammo, but it is personal preference.

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u/Cosmic_Tigers Sep 26 '22

Can someone explain to me how you can have a Canadian legal mag extension on the beretta 1301 tactical?

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u/WinsL Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

The shotgun can shoot 2 3/4 & 3” shells. If shooting 3” then mag extension allows for max five 3” shells yet allowing for six or seven 2 3/4” shells.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 27 '22

No calls for either my wife nor I, not when we purchased handguns either.

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u/SSmrao Sep 26 '22

Just got back from the range for the first time, put about 40-50 rounds through my SKS (non corrosive) and shotgun, and about 200 through my 10/22.

How thoroughly do I need to clean them? Just run a patch through the barrels and wipe the bolts? Should I clean triggers too? Gas system?

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u/ggdrguy Sep 26 '22

Who says you need to clean them at all? Lol you will get varying answers from full strip every time you use it to clean it once it starts malfunctioning. It’s all about what you think is a priority.

Myself, I would run my snake through a few times and just clean with a cloth/rag what I can reach in the action.

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u/SSmrao Sep 26 '22

Thanks yea just ran a patch through all and there was hardly even any fouling so I feel confident leaving them for now. I'll probably spray+wipe them down later this week

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 27 '22 edited Sep 27 '22

That's definitely not enough to require a cleaning, on the other hand gun stripping should be practiced.

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u/SSmrao Sep 27 '22

I took them apart the day I got them so that when I need to take them apart to clean/fix I'll already know what's normal and what's not

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u/ggdrguy Sep 27 '22

Oh boy, hate to be the one to break it to you but we are looking at around 3 months for you to see it online, another 3+ to get approved(depending on province) they don’t always call references as well.

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u/TheSunshineVampire Sep 27 '22

I am in NB.

I took course on July 16

Miramichi, NB processing center for RCMP got my application (RPAL) on July 19.

1st and only to date update I have seen on the website was yesterday September 26 which did show they got my application on July 19, that my application has completed the initial review, if other information was required they would contact me and to check the status of the application later.

My CC was also charged the application fee yesterday September 26.

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Sep 27 '22

Took just under 3 months for it to finally show up on the website for me.

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u/FRED040513 Sep 27 '22

Hey, I was wondering how often I should clean the barrel of my rifle (CZ 457) and if I need to wash to boresnake, and if so, how often? Thanks!

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u/MLI691H Sep 27 '22

Need to call in to update my credit card info as the one I put down on file was compromised and has been cancelled by my cc company. What number do I need to call?

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

1-800-731-4000

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u/TwoForces16 Sep 27 '22

PAL status seems stuck in limbo since January. I will call them again but what is up with the delay? Anyone else in the same boat? The last I heard it was sitting on the desk of the CFO in Ontario.

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u/[deleted] Sep 27 '22

I would recommend contacting the Ontario CFO’s office.

Did you answer “Yes” to any of the personal history questions? That can result in a 12+ month delay.

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u/papaknowsit Sep 27 '22

As a new shooter, I am looking for opinions on a firearm for target shooting. I am not a hunter, just a plinker. I have purchased a few revolvers (2×.357 and 1× .45) and now I am looking for a long gun that would be fun on the range. Any thoughts? Opinions? Guidance? Thanks for your help.

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u/ggdrguy Sep 28 '22

Look into 22 or pcc’s for fun target and plinking.

Gsg16 and 10/22 are most popular semi auto for 22

Ruger also makes the pc carbine and fx9 are the most popular options for that. 9mm blowback semi autos

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u/BillionNewt Sep 28 '22

If you care about accuracy right out of the box, I would suggest a cz 512 for semi auto, and tikka t1x, cz 457 varmint/mtr for bolt action. These are good 22lr options. Only get a 10/22 if you're willing to upgrade parts later on. It can get way more accurate with stuff like kidd or volquartsen barrels but is not great for target shooting right out of the box. In my humble opinion

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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Sep 28 '22 edited Sep 28 '22

Cz457 or Tikka T1x are two excellent options for precision 22LR's. People are literally shooting these rifles out to 200-300m nowadays.

Picked up a Cz457 mtr xrs 16" myself a few months ago, the thing is absolutely gnarly in terms of both accuracy and (in my opinion) looks. I had been heavily leaning towards the Tikka but had a CZ pop up locally and I now cannot recommend them enough.

Edit: PM'd you a photo of my Cz457 mtr xrs 16" 🤤

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

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u/ggdrguy Sep 28 '22

Only one card is valid, the most current one.

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Sep 28 '22

Just curious... Has anyone ever tracked how long it took a PAL application to go from "photo processing stage" to card in hand?

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u/[deleted] Sep 28 '22

For me it took 3 months

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u/Embarrassed_Sea6750 Sep 28 '22

Ouch, that is not great. Thanks for the reply !

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u/afookenleaf Sep 28 '22

Looking to put a red dot on my 10/22. Just for plinking so no need for something fancy/high end. My 10/22 came with a weaver scope rail to install. Seems like a lot of red dots are picatinny, like the Browning Buck Mark I was eyeing.

Looking for your recommendations, and if I should go with a weaver sight or if using a picatinny adapter would be better.

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u/BillionNewt Sep 29 '22

Just get a cheapo chinese one off of amazon or aliexpress then, since 22 recoil wont matter much. Or wait until the sig sauer romeo is 180$ again at cabelas or somewhere, if you dont want cheap chinese stuff

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u/Dr_Drini Sep 29 '22

Hey has anyone ever tried and had any success ordering parts off the Brownells website? I’ve called their customer service and they said they do ship parts to Canada, and there’s even a filter for “available outside the US” on the site. I’m building a couple p80’s and want a Brownells slide and barrel but im nervous CBSA will just seize them at the border and i’ll have wasted the money! If anyone has done so successfully that would ease my fears.

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u/TWINTURBO-EG33 Sep 29 '22

pal/rpal just got issued, has anyone has the luck to initialize a restricted transfer with pal number only?

Ontario timeline: End of March received, June CC charge, corrected name in July and forwarded to CFO, never called contacts afaik.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

Better purchase NOW! That freeze is going into effect in just a few days.

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u/_Connor Sep 29 '22

has anyone has the luck to initialize a restricted transfer with pal number only?

Luck in what way? the vast majority of websites only ask for your number, they don't make you upload pictures of your card.

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u/TheSmallSlice Sep 29 '22

Anyone know of a good online hunters course for Ontario?

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u/Goodexampl3 Sep 29 '22

Did mine through HUNTERcourse.com, took me like 3 hours and cost me $40.

Edit: looks like they raised the price to $60 on the website

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u/TheSmallSlice Sep 29 '22

Oh perfect thanks! Eh pretty much everything has gone up in price, it's a one time thing so I'm fine with putting 60 some odd bucks on it for the amount of good times and food it'll provide me I'd say thats a pretty good deal lol.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

is it possible to give a non-restricted to a friend who has a pal without doing any sort of paper work?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

No.

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

So what is the current understanding generally speaking… when ban is initiated there will be no more (new?) transfers processed.

Is it generally thought that all initiated transfers prior, with reference numbers, would be worked on still?

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u/panzermeister36 Sep 30 '22

This question is asked often. The answer is that transfers already initiated should be completed. That is how it is written in current legislation.

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u/iloveneuro Oct 01 '22

I wish this could be stickied…

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u/Bots_R_Us Oct 01 '22

Thanks for answering this, I've been wondering.

And of course they can do anything, but at least it's something to go on.

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u/FRED040513 Sep 30 '22

How much weight can a single sling stud hold? My CZ 457 Lux has only one forward sling stud and the stock is wooden. I was planning on putting a bipod setup weighting 28.4 oz on it, but would it break?

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u/LePapaPapSmear Oct 01 '22

I would assume they can hold a fair bit. Especially since they are meant to take half the weight of the gun itself being dropped to carry

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u/[deleted] Oct 01 '22

Hi everyone, I’m looking to get my first .22 rifle. Looking for advice.

I’m looking most closely at the Browning BL 22 Lever Gun. I’ve never fired a lever gun before but from videos I’ve seen they look insanely fun to plink with! I like the cool, old-school mystique of them too.

I’m hoping to join a local shooting range when applications open next spring. The gun will mostly be used for affordable sport shooting at the range.

Is the Browning a good choice? Anything else I should be aware of? Thanks all!

EDIT: could I hunt grouse with a gun like that?

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u/obliviousmousepad Oct 01 '22

Seems like a heck of a lot of cash for a first .22. Maybe look at the Henry’s for half of that?

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u/KC5500 Oct 01 '22

CC charged Sept 1 emailed to see if everything was ok with application got this response back…

Thank you for your email. Your application has been forwarded to us at the Chief Firearms Office for standard review. At this time, we are not able to provide a date of completion. Please expect a 9-month delay.

Ontario

Just more time to save money lol

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u/huntcamp Oct 01 '22

Can stores help with private transfers? I’m trying to beat the deadline and dreading calling in Monday.

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u/MrPalacios Oct 01 '22

Just a question, if you’ve been charged in the past and the charges have been dropped, can you still get a non-restricted firearms license? I only ask because today I did the course and passed and now I have to submit it to the RCMP and the charges I had prior to this course were false hence why they were dropped. Will this affect me?

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u/TactleneckCAN Oct 01 '22

Do I need to call the CFP and use the main line transfer option to initiate a private restricted transfer (1-4-2), or can I call my provinces CFO directly (1-1-ext)?

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u/Sprookie07 Oct 01 '22

When should we expect ammo prices to come down? States side seems 9mm coming down but haven’t seen much for us in Canada

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u/pats_28 Oct 01 '22

Anyone have experience with 9mm 115gr browning ammo?

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u/Rickfactor Oct 02 '22 edited Oct 07 '22

BC

  • Purchased handgun online 08/21 from same province
  • Called CFO a few times throughout early Sept - never got through
  • called CFO 09/29, 20 minutes on hold and got through
  • CF agent offered to clear the transfer and received via email within 15 minutes
  • handgun arrives Tuesday 10/04
  • registration papers maybe 2 more weeks via the mail ? ?

Edit - picked up 10/05 from the Post Office. Awaiting copy of registration in the mail.

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u/xejex1596 Sep 29 '22

I am trying to get ahold of the CFP, most of the time it says there are too many calls and it hangs up right away. I have noticed now, it keeps you on hold for exactly 30 minutes, then says they are experiencing system problems, this is ridiculous. Is anyone else experiencing this issue? There are 366,800 new government jobs since February 2020, seems to me a few hundred could be put towards firearms owners, the least dangerous people in Canada.

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u/Bots_R_Us Sep 29 '22

I think everyone has had this same problem, I know I have.

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u/pats_28 Sep 30 '22

How long have you guys been waiting for registration certificates after the transfer goes through?

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u/_Connor Sep 30 '22

11 business days for me.

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u/ContextVegetable2621 Sep 25 '22

Question for all - I purchased 2 handguns well over 4 weeks ago online (1 retailer here in BC, and another in Ontario l), is it possible to call and have the transfer pushed through, or do I just have to wait?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 25 '22

All your purchases will need to be approved by your provincial CFO. You can call and demand that they rush your registration but I doubt the call will result in you jumping the line forward.

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u/ZealousidealNews9256 Sep 26 '22

Don’t listen to people telling you to wait. I emailed and got a reply/ my transfers approved upon reply a week later.

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u/ContextVegetable2621 Sep 26 '22

Thanks. Not sure why I’m getting downvoted lol. Can I ask what you said to them to speed things up? Maybe pm me instead?

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u/ZealousidealNews9256 Sep 26 '22

I just asked if “they could look into

xxxxxxx

xxxxxxx

Thank you very much for your time I appreciate you’re probably very busy Have a good day”

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u/panzermeister36 Sep 25 '22

You should wait like everyone else. You'll get it eventually, you're just at the back of the line right now. We're all in this together. Some people might get it expedited by the CFO if there is a really good reason that they need it ASAP.

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22

Anyone know what days they print new PAL cards?

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 29 '22

frabjous day

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u/Gunsareatool Sep 29 '22

Literally Waiting for My Rpal And Pal Since

Sept 2021

Called so many times

Still Ofcourse Fukkin Nothing

Jesus Fuck They Make The Processing time so fucking long and Slow

That A Completely Mentally Stable, And Perfectly Normal Healthy Citizen Can Go Through The RCMP “Backround Check “ “In Depth Review Process”

And Come Out A Fuckin Mental Patient That Has Lost All Respect For Their Government,

Like what the Fuck is your problem RCMP?

I wanna be a Fuckin Lawful NORMAL Hunting, Target Shooting Fuckin Citizen

The Fucks the Issue?

Go Fuck ur self RCMP

And Nobody Tell me to contact an MP Because Those Sons Of Bitches are Useless

Just Approve my fucking Application it’s Been a Whole Fucking 365 Days Fuckers

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u/iloveneuro Sep 29 '22

Any one who capitalizes every word deserves to be in a mental institution so I think I’m with the RCMP on this one.

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But seriously I’m sorry this is happening to you.

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u/jaredmn Sep 29 '22

Try contacting your MP.

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u/Silentcloner bc Sep 29 '22

I weep for the poor staffer that has to talk to this guy.

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u/jaredmn Sep 29 '22

No kidding. If he can avoid telling them that he wants the RCMP to go fuck itself, and presents a reasonable argument (without capitalizing every word) that he is entitled to timely service from the government, it’s possible that they might just help him.

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u/LePapaPapSmear Sep 30 '22

The anger you display makes me glad they are doing a deep dive into you.

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u/ZacamaPrimalCalamity Sep 30 '22

in robotic voice: "Emotional display: Unacceptable. Citzenship priveleges: Revoked. Remain in place, a Safety Unit has been dispatched to your location"

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

I wouldn't say it's mentally stable when I see a post like this...

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

LOL… tell us how you really feel

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u/[deleted] Sep 29 '22 edited Oct 14 '22

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u/BillionNewt Sep 30 '22

Most likely Oct 4 via OIC regulation change. Does not need to go through senate

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 30 '22

No, take it to the politics thread?

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u/[deleted] Sep 30 '22

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 30 '22

This isn't the place to post misinformation like that.

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

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u/[deleted] Sep 26 '22

June will get approved then August whenever they get to doing August transfers.