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u/iloveneuro Aug 09 '22 edited Aug 10 '22
Final RPAL application update.
ON, approved with personal history box checked.
Mailed: March 13th 2022 (regular mail)
Received: March 18th 2022
cc charged/initial review completed: June 15th 2022
Transfer to ON-CFO: July 5th 2022
Approved and Issued: August 8th 2022!
Start to finish was 4.5 months.
I answered Yes to one of the personal history questions (depression) and included a BRIEF letter explaining why I checked the box and which aspects didn’t apply to me (e.g. have depression, no substance use disorder, etc…). I also included a note from my doctor where they specified that they were comfortable with me getting PAL and said I was stable.
When I spoke to the CFO, they were very happy that I had preemptively included all of that information.
Called ON-CFO and they gave me my license # and now I’ve already got a handgun in the transfer queue!
For other’s benefit:
Canadian Firearms Program (RCMP) - for application updates:
1 (800) 731-4000,1,,,,,,,5,2
Ontario CFO: 1 (800) 731-4000,1,,,,,,1,7503
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u/H0NOUr Aug 10 '22
4.5 Months? Not bad, I submitted my info in June; hope it gets pushed thru before everything dries up {rpal & handguns :( …}
Tried the check application status website no hits for my info
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u/iloveneuro Aug 10 '22
You won’t be able to see your info in the portal until after they charge your card. It’s taken 3 months pretty consistently to get to that point. Good luck!
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Aug 10 '22
wow lucky!
mine was received 25 feb and nothing yet. how did you get through to ON-CFO? i keep trying them and just get the same message ' this phone line isn't equipped for messages.' and phone disconnects
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u/ClassyCilantro Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22
The more time goes by the more I realize my wallet is gonna hate this hobby.
My PAL was approved Friday (still waiting on it in the mail)
I called to get my license number and bought a handgun today
hours later I'm already thinking it's gonna take forever to get the ATT so I should get a 22 rifle in the meantime since there's no use in having an empty gun cabinet for 2+months.
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Aug 10 '22 edited Aug 12 '22
Wrote this to my MP, steal it if you want.
I hope all is well.
I have two concerns I'd like to share with you regarding firearms rights.
Firstly, service from the Ontario Chief Firearms Officer to approve restricted transfers has been abysmal. I have been waiting over a month when this process should only take a few days and some of my friends have been waiting upwards of 6 months. This is completely unacceptable.
By doing the math with the transfer numbers and how many are getting approved a day, I was able to calculate my transfer will not be completed until well into the new year unless something is done. I would appreciate your help in resolving this issue.
Secondly, firearms rights in Canada. Every few weeks now it seems Trudeau finds another way to demonize and take rights away from law abiding citizens while reducing penalties for criminals. There is no data to show these bans are effective and all he is doing is destroying a multimillion dollar Canadian industry. Legal gun owners are not the ones committing the crimes, criminals and gang bangers are. All this wasted money into a buy back would be better suited for community outreach and youth programs to help stop the gun violence issue at it's root. I understand this is a national issue so it might be outside of your scope but I figured I would highlight it.
Below is a study on the effect of gun control on gun crime in Canada. Here's a spoiler, it hasn't been effective.
https://journals.plos.org/plosone/article?id=10.1371/journal.pone.0234457
I appreciate you taking the time to read this email and I hope you continue to represent your constituents well.
Thank you,
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Aug 10 '22
Was just coming here to ask. Mine was submitted on the 1st - are they coming out finally? I’ve been trying to call the CFP to no avail, and the online portal has been down as well. So frustrating!
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Aug 10 '22
I've tried calling 7 times and phone keeps getting hung up.
no way of getting through to Ontario CFO, just says phone line isn't equipped for messages and they disconnect.
now on 6 months, no idea what the issue is.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 10 '22
Email, and the issue is they are busy and underfunded for the size of the province.
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u/ggdrguy Aug 10 '22
Do you know about the run on handguns? That’s the issue.
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Aug 10 '22
meant i was calling about my PAL/RPAL application, every time I call if it's 9:30 am or 1:30 or 10:00 am or 4 pm I can't get trhoguh
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u/Healthy-Cow-4703 Aug 12 '22
ON here. Purchased 1st restricted on May 30th. Just received my transfer approval via email.
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u/ClemementineSweetie Aug 12 '22
Could you by any chance share the first 3 or 4 digits of your transfer reference number so we can get a sense of where they're at?
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u/No-Knee-8495 Aug 09 '22
Been waiting since June 9 for a handgun to be processed by the cfo. Does anyone know if the government will honor existing transfers before bill c21 comes full swing in the fall?
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u/EpicEric Aug 09 '22
If the transfer is initiated before they freeze, then you'll be good to go.
You'll find this in the bill under Transitional Provisions.
Registration certificates — handguns 47 Section 12.2 of the Firearms Act, as enacted by section 17, does not apply in respect of a registration certificate for which an application was submitted in accordance with section 54 of that Act before the day on which that section 17 comes into force.
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u/Apples_and_Overtones Your feet suck and so do you Aug 09 '22
They've said they will but there's no real certainty there IMO.
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u/CringelordCameron Aug 09 '22
The CSAAA was told by the CFP that all in process transfers would be allowed to complete.
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u/Marinoni Aug 09 '22
Almost feel bad posting this. My PAL renewal with restricted upgrade was approved August 6th. With my existing PAL number I made an online purchase that same day via Gun Post.
August 8th seller called in and received reference number. I called and confirmed my info with reference number that same day.
August 9th I emailed the provincial CFO with the details of the transfer and a copy of my range membership. 4 hours later we received approval of the transfer.
Again, this is for Nova Scotia which has a small population and even smaller number of PAL holders. I’m speculating that maybe my email helped or maybe them recently seeing my PAL renewal helped. But in any case I’m thrilled.
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u/_Connor Aug 09 '22 edited Aug 09 '22
You got the actual firearm transfer approved in 1 day? That's wild, I thought all restricted transfers had to go through Miramichi before they got shuffled to your provincial CFO's queue.
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u/HAND7Z Aug 12 '22
FINALLY my transfer went through. Submitted on JUNE 3rd, went through AUGUST 12th. There's hope people, hang in there.
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u/Timtam1225 Aug 09 '22
I will be out of Canada for 2 years for a exchange program. What can I do with my firearms? Some of my stuff is going into self storage. I also have relatives here but they don’t have PALs. Can I store it with them as long as I change the registered address for restricted and lock them all in the safe so only I can have access to it?
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Aug 09 '22
I’ve recently got my RPAL. Ordered three handguns for a variety. Found another that I like. Anyone else buy 3+ handguns lately and if so, any one have issues with transfer limits or anything? Would hate to have transfers denied or anything lol.
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u/CringelordCameron Aug 09 '22
I've purchased 4 handguns recently and have had no issues, the cfo told a buddy of mine that they are completely unconcerned about high volumes of transfers from a single person because of the current circumstances.
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Aug 09 '22
4 for me (with a 5th in the works). I’m in Ontario so nothing has been approved yet. Unfortunately with the announcements the govt made you don’t really have a choice but to try and buy everything you want/need now before it’s too late.
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u/Critical-Raccoon-473 Aug 09 '22
I had 4 on order, pulled the trigger on one last one lastnight lol— Ontario, first purchase may 30, nothin at all yet..prolly should still get a striker style but ohwelllllll lolololoo
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Aug 09 '22
I was wondering is it legal to shoot paintball/airsoft/other air guns on crownland or would it be considered littering? (Of course using biodegradable ammo). Could you have a proper airsoft game on crownland assuming you weren't bejng a complete idiot
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u/That_cool_canadian Aug 10 '22
PAL application timeline for BC:
Application received April 19th.
CC charged July 21st.
Application processed and license issued August 9th.
Hopefully the license doesn't take too long in the mail!
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Aug 10 '22
Bc timelines along with AB have been having fast turn around times for applications
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Aug 10 '22
"fast"🤣
While almost 4 months is faster than other provinces, I don't think we can call it fast
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u/Grimmerthan Aug 11 '22
Call and ask for your number and expiry date. Use that to join a range. Use both of these for any purchases you want to do, if you're so inclined.
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u/Some-Use9970 Aug 10 '22
Transfer pending....
I'm currently waiting 8 weeks this Friday ( 12th August) for my handgun.
What's everyone's waiting time so far?
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u/nolan8827 Aug 10 '22
Just over 7 weeks in Saskatchewan. My first purchase was approved after 6 weeks. Seems they’re falling behind
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 10 '22
I am at nine weeks today.
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u/Some-Use9970 Aug 10 '22
I went to my MP's office today they are chasing it up tomorrow.....fingers crossed!
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u/Critical-Raccoon-473 Aug 10 '22
First one is from May 30…business to me..Ontario..have yet to hear anything
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u/Some-Use9970 Aug 10 '22
Just to note I'm in Alberta
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u/_Connor Aug 10 '22
Alberta CFO office told me a couple days ago they were processing June first transfers.
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u/StatisticianOdd791 Aug 09 '22
Alberta Transfer Timeline: Bought restricted from Firearms Outlet Canada-June 30th -Date received by CFO AB: July 4
-Transfer Complete: August 8
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Aug 09 '22
Does anyone have an update on Ontario restricted transfer times? Has anyone received a handgun purchased after June 3rd? I'm still waiting on my purchase from June 12. Transfer # 5932XXX.
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Aug 10 '22
Haven't even gotten my June 2nd, I say this seriously, you're probably looking at next year for the June 12th purchase.
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u/ClemementineSweetie Aug 10 '22
5901xxx still not through :(
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Aug 10 '22
Ontario's CFO office is a disaster. You need to demand that your elected officials take action to correct the problem (higher more staff?). I guess once C21 is approved, CFO offices will not have that much to do, so they won't need extra staff then....
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u/Ornery-Chest-7394 Aug 10 '22
Well I ordered May 30th. Haven't recieved nothing and FOC couldn't even provide me my reference number due to the high volumes.....
Insanity.
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u/Ornery-Chest-7394 Aug 10 '22
Any Ontario Restricted transfers gone through since the "Freeze" aka BAN was announced? Me and my buddy ordered from two different stores may 30th and no transfers yet.
Just wondering if anyone has had luck.
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Aug 10 '22
Add your transfer number to your comment and that might help.
I've seen some people from Ontario in other threads get their restricteds with May transfers but I can't link you to anything. If you see someone post a handgun then check the comments or scroll the newbie thread and someone's talking about it or giving an update.
I ordered mine on July 6th so wish me luck.
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u/Lowyfer Aug 10 '22
Transfer question….
Bought a restricted from Cabela’s and received an email notification of 2 transfer with attached pdf from the rcmp.
Eventually I received everything hard copy.
When I reached out to cabela’s about the order status they told me they could “get no information from the rcmp” about rhe transfer due to privacy laws and that I should call them?
I forwarded them the electronic transfer document and was not responded to for weeks.
Finally they responded with a single line:
“This order is cancelled.”
But the firearm was transferred to me….. but never shipped.
Do I just contact the CFO and ask them to reverse the transfer? I do not trust cabela’s knows what they are doing at all.
Anything else I should or need to do?
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Aug 10 '22
You probably need to call back. Hopefully Someone who actually knows what's up will answer....
Once transferred to you, it legally is yours. Cabela's has a duty to ship it to you.
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u/Scopequest Aug 10 '22
They asked you to call them, did you call them?
Call them and see if they still have the item and if they can ship it and bill you.
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u/ThatKidOnMars Aug 11 '22
For those looking to purchase a Glock 44 chambered in 22lr, gotenda.com has some in stock!!!
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u/ggdrguy Aug 11 '22
Get it, because we don’t know what will pass and want won’t and what may be repealed with new govt etc. you’d rather have then not use then want and not have
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u/giovannigionta Aug 11 '22
I would still do it as others have said. You never know what will and will not happen in the future. Keep in mind that the ban is on restricted handguns, you still have restricted riffles that require the same license and are not part of the freeze.
Another reason would be you can still be a member of a shooting club. As an example, in Quebec you are required to be a member of the specific club (and of course have a valid RPAL) in order to shoot unaccompanied. At the club I am a member of, you can rent firearms for 10$ (pretty decent choice) as long as you buy their ammo (market price). Sure beats having someone accompany you for a hefty price (hundreds) every time you wanna go shoot.
Edit: If I take a glimpse into my crystal ball, I am sure many clubs will be expanding their rental section in order to keep the sport alive.
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u/_Connor Aug 12 '22
You're not buying a pistol, at least not in this political climate.
The transfer freeze will be long implemented before you get your license. You're looking at 6+ months before you even get your license. Freeze is expected to hit in October.
Your only hope is to get licensed now and then pray the freeze is reverted at some point in the future.
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u/Apples_and_Overtones Your feet suck and so do you Aug 11 '22
I'll second the opinion to just get it anyway.
It's most likely that C-21 will pass unless the NDP for some reason vote it down. If so that will effectively kill (new) pistol purchases for the foreseeable future. Which of course, is terrible.
However, we don't know with absolute certainty that it will pass, and even if it does, there's a small chance it'll be either repealed or modified by more friendly governments later down the road, potentially as soon as the next election.
As another commenter said, it's better to have and not need it, and I agree with that.
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u/Thisguy-28 Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 12 '22
Quick question for you guys I’m a new license holder I just ordered my fist handgun the email I got gave me a reference number and that I don’t need to do anything but I feel like I need to do stuff on my end thanks for the information an help
I also got got to mention befor I’m in Alberta I am also a member of a rang.
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u/Markiavelli98 Aug 11 '22
Nothing to do but wait, I ordered my first restricted on July 1st, received reference number from store and have been waiting since
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Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22
Will bill C-21 affect handguns that are in the process of being transferred? I'm in Ontario and I bought a revolver in early May and a handgun in early June and the transfer was begun June 5th and 16th respectively but are still bring processed.
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u/_Connor Aug 12 '22
No. Initiated transfers will be honored. Someone else posted the specific provision in the Bill.
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u/Disastrous-Panic-87 Aug 12 '22
Just wanted to share this with you…
I just called the CAF (controlleur des armes à feu) in Québec and the lady told me that they were currently handling the May transfers …
Be patient ! 3-4 months delays
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u/SurtseyHuginn Aug 12 '22
Yeah they are the worst I think... I'm so fed up, you can always expect gun-related stuff to be worse in Quebec compared to the ROC, (just take a look at their f**** useless long gun registry).
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u/OPIronman Aug 13 '22
-----Gun ranges in Ontario-----
Hi,
Recently, I bought a rifle and I'd like to try it somewhere in Ontario.
However, I'm only here for a few more weeks and unless membership process is fast, I'd like to go to a range that doesn't require membership.
Anyone knows about a gun range in Ontario that wouldn't require me to have a membership to use or if it requires one, is the process quick?
Thank you.
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(Also yeah, I'm really new to all of this and hopefully I didn't ask the question that will result in the answer that sounds a lot like: "all ranges require membership" )
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u/Azariahz Aug 14 '22
Stittsville shooting ranges. I think it’s $20/hr for nonmembers
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Aug 08 '22
For an RPAL application, can both your references live at the same address? For example, use my neighbours (husband and wife) who would have the same address listed.
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u/Wil_Mah Aug 08 '22
Whats a good list of decent Online Canadian stores? been looking for accessories and not sure where to start.
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u/EngineNecessary8696 Aug 08 '22
How long is it taking them to Print and mail the license after approval?
Thanks in advance for the reply!
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u/iloveneuro Aug 08 '22
Online portal says approved and issued. I’d like to get my number so I can get in queue for a transfer before receiving my physical card. (Transfer will def take longer than getting the card).
Do I call CFP (main 1-800 number) or CFO for that info? Will they provide me with my license # upon request?
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u/SurtseyHuginn Aug 08 '22
Just had an email from QC CFO regarding the ETA for my two transfers (dated 13 th and 14th of june respectively) as I will be out of the country for a few weeks starting mid august.
[Translated] : "We would have like to give you an ETA, but due to a high number of applications we doubt that they will be processed before you leave (16th of june), they will likely be processed after you come back (mid-september).
To me it seems that QC CFO is way behind other provinces...
I wish everyone good luck with their transfers, this is getting ridiculous, and I so tired of this I'm considering getting a complaint with the ombudsman over the processing time. Not accelerate my transfer but to send a message.
This is clearly not okay, I'm tired of it and want to voice my frustration. What do you folks think?
Oh, and I'm not even talking about the challenge of calling the CFO for a transfer, or whatnot. Took me 10 days of trying daily to finally reach someone...
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Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 08 '22
In Quebec as well and it’s a real fucking joke. I’m exasperated. How does one make a complaint to the ombudsman? I will send one immediately.
Edit: found this link https://protecteurducitoyen.qc.ca/en/make-a-complaint/complaint-forms/online-complaint-form#step-2
Filling this out as a complaint towards QC CFO. We’ll see if anything comes of it (doubt it).
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u/minikingpin Aug 09 '22
I’ve been checking this thread since I put my order in on June 6th. Qc is by far the slowest.
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u/q_c_h Aug 08 '22
Hi, my RPAL/PAL was approved by the CFO over the phone. They said the mailing itself will take 3-4 weeks though...
I was told by my friend that I can actually make a purchase with my license number alone, does any one know if this is true? If so, is there a way to find out what my license number is before the card arrived in the mail?
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u/Grimmerthan Aug 08 '22
Call them and ask for it. I did this, got the number, and ordered a few things, prior to my physical card showing up (took about 2 weeks).
Make sure you get the expiry date as well. It may or may not roll over to your next birthday. My card will last 5y 3m.
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u/After-Strategy1933 Aug 09 '22
Glocks left in Canada
I know this is a long shot since the import freeze announced but does anyone know where to get one new?
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u/CringelordCameron Aug 09 '22
Does anybody here know if prohibited handguns will be affected by the freeze?
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u/cryrid Aug 09 '22
Yes. According to https://www.parl.ca/DocumentViewer/en/44-1/bill/C-21/first-reading , this is part of what it is currently looking to do:
17 The (Firearms) Act is amended by adding the following after section 12.1:
Handguns 12.2 A registration certificate for a handgun must not be issued to an individual.
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u/Coby9 Aug 09 '22
Tl;dr Should I pay over double and settle for a Shadow Systems before time runs out or should I risk waiting for a Glock 19 which is what I really want? Scared for them to ban purchase/transfer and I'll end up with nothing. Long story short I had a Glock 19 while I served overseas as a PMC and I hold it dear to my heart. After 6 very long months I finally got my RPAL today. Glock 19's have been out of stock everywhere since the Trudeau announcement. Today, the day I get my RPAL, I got an email from Firearms Outlet Canada that they got a shipment of 19's. I'm usually a person who always has his phone on him and checks its religiously. Today, of all days, I had guests over and to be polite I put my phone on the side. To my surprise, I checked my phone and see that FOC got a shipment of 19's at 06:21pm. After over 2 months of being out of stock everywhere, the day I get my RPAL and the one day I don't check my phone, is the day they restock 19's. Needless to say by the time I saw the email they were out of stock. I'm broken.
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u/BillionNewt Aug 09 '22
Arms East is saying they're getting more guns soon. You can refresh that site. Also you can check second hand on CGN EE. Either way there will be no new supply after Aug 19.
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u/Weak_Mission_9721 Aug 09 '22
CZ Shadow 1 or 2 are top notch, most of the IPSC guys use them competitively.
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Aug 09 '22
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Aug 09 '22
Let's try not to use their pejorative terms. Let's call them terms like sporting rifles or tactical or anything else.
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u/ggghosted Aug 09 '22
Going to the cottage this weekend with my homies! Bringing a shotgun with me and we will hit some crown land, we will be staying at an AIRBNB. Any pointers? I know firearms always unloaded, but other than that since it’s NR should be cool to keep inside with me, out of my car?
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u/Scopequest Aug 10 '22
1) Check local (municipal) bylaws.
2) check air bnb rules?
3) store it safely. Lock it up extra good so your friends can't get it too
4) you sound new ish to firearms (and I assume friends are too) and in unfamiliar territory. Either of those are enough to say you should not mix any alcohol when using a firearm.
5) it's impolite and maybe illegal to shoot at night (depends on location).
6) treat the firearm (and make sure friends do to) seriously. Fucking up with a firearm can be life changing.
7) normal rules of firearms, seeing up a firing line, safety, etc.
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u/nolan8827 Aug 10 '22
Does ammunition have to be shipped to the address associated with the PAL? Only have a PO Box address for mail. Thanks
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u/ggdrguy Aug 10 '22
Nope, you are good to ship ammo and nr to a different address, I get mine shipped to work. Restricteds need to go to address listed
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u/Mustard_Pickles Aug 10 '22
This morning I tried to renew my RPAL online and the RCMP website is flashing an Error 404 . Has anyone had an issue with online renewal or know where I can find an active link to get this done?
How long is the turn around these days? My husband did his in June (due in September) and we haven't had any indication that they're processing it - other than the charge for the renewal fee on the credit card. Are we in hot water if renewal isn't done before expiration date?
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u/ggdrguy Aug 10 '22
Sounds like the site is down this morning, not sure on renewal times, I’ve heard several months. You do have a 6 month grace period after it expires, but I believe in that time you aren’t allowed to take your guns out and use them.
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Aug 10 '22
I just cantacted a dealer to get a transfer reference number, and they have said the site is down on their end as well.
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u/Particular_Koala_124 Aug 11 '22
Can anyone share their opinion and situation on being a lefty and left eye dominant shooter, and can recommends firearms that they use and have purchased?
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u/giovannigionta Aug 11 '22
I would suggest that you learn to shoot with both eyes open, unless you are shooting long distances with a scope.
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u/Emotional-Bath-4506 Aug 12 '22
Does the CFP ever contact landlords to let them know there's firearm(s) on their property?
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Aug 12 '22
Going on 7 months now still no pal and no info on application website
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Aug 12 '22
yup. received mine feb 24, cc charged may 15th. called in a couple weeks ago and they basically said they don't know the status.
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u/InstructionUnclear74 Aug 13 '22
I am eyeing taking a Canadian Firearm Safety Course and a hunting course. I just reviewed the PAL application and noticed that it asks if a personal bankruptcy was filed.
I filed for bankruptcy and was discharged in 2021 due to a lost law suite.
Should I even take the course considering they might refuse my pal application due to my past bankruptcy?
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Aug 13 '22
Yup, they're actually really understanding, your process will take longer, you'll be asked some questions,but you stand a good chance of being approved, they just want to make sure you're not out to even the score
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u/InstructionUnclear74 Aug 13 '22
Yeah, I can see the revenge part. Good to know. Thank you. Booked my course right now.
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u/WeCanDoBettrr Aug 13 '22
I recently purchased a used M41 and would like to buy a new set of grips. Any ideas on whether the import ban will prevent me from buying something as simple as wooden grips from the US and having the seller ship them to me here in Canada. Realistically it’s just a hunk of wood but I know CBSA can be fickle about these things during the best of times.
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u/ccerone12 Aug 13 '22
Anyone else having an issue logging into the individual web services of the RCMP site?
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u/Distinct_Page_9628 Aug 13 '22
Should i mail my pal application with tracking?
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u/Greatfuldead666 on Aug 13 '22
Yes, otherwise u may be like one of those who wait a long time only to find out it’s been lost in mail.
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u/fltlns Aug 13 '22
On the flip side I did mail with tracking cause I wanted to know when it got there so I would know when the wait period was up and could start calling about it
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 13 '22
Highly unlikely that Canada Post will lose a letter to a government agency that receives hundreds (thousands?) of applications per week.
They are much more likely to "lose" those gift cards you sent to your nieces for Xmas
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u/Mechaman520 Aug 08 '22
CFO Ontario told me there is no expected date for completing applications.
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u/b647 Aug 07 '22
Recommendations for clay shooting near Halifax? I’m newly licensed, and looking to get some experience with clays before trying out duck/goose hunting (likely next season at this point). The sales rep at Cabella’s said that it’s possible to book this at some of the DNR ranges. Anyone have experience with that? Also any recommendations among the private ranges?
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u/Marinoni Aug 07 '22
Non of the provincial ranges allow clay shooting. Technically they only allow shooting from the seated position at the shooting bench and only for the sighting in of rifles at 100 yards. With that said, there’s typically lots of broken clays, rounds and evidence of other activities.
Overall for HRM I think MVRRC is the best bang for you buck as far as ranges are concerned. Lots of rifle, pistol and a shotgun ranges to choose from. They do host clay shooting events I believe. There’s also Nova Sport Clays that I’ve heard good things about. But never actually been to. The NS Hunting forums are also a decent resource for NS specific info.
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u/_Connor Aug 07 '22
Probably October but good luck getting anything after August 19th with the import bans. Shops will sell out and that's going to be it for new stock.
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Aug 07 '22
I bought my second restricted firearm from a store. Would I be expecting a call from the CFO asking questions such as for the purpose of my purchase?
It's my first time buying from a store and I don't really know what the process is. How long is usually the wait time in BC, from getting the email that the transfer is in process to take the firearm home and getting the registration certificate in the mail?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 07 '22
I ask for payment and then apply for transfer. I would also refund payment if the transfer didn't get approved.
Ship on completion of transfer (seller needs an ATT for this).
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u/GeneralBrilliant864 Aug 07 '22
Will the new ban on handgun import affect my order from July 20th? I ordered mine from RDSC and they said expect 4-8weeks for the delivery.
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u/StevieWonderCanSee1 Aug 08 '22
Probably not. If you bought a gun that they had in stock, there shouldn’t be a problem.
And I don’t think they would have sold you a gun they didn’t have in stock, so you should be fine.
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Aug 08 '22
anyone else getting this 'system down' message when trying to call? i tried calling friday twice and got this message and just tried now and got it
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u/goomba008 Aug 08 '22
When shipping a sold firearm, do you need an ATT just to drive to the post office to ship it?
I never considered that before but the person on the phone at the CFO told me I do.
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u/Scopequest Aug 08 '22 edited Aug 08 '22
You're transporting it, yes you need an ATT. I don't think the auto ATT on the licence covers selling or transferring does it? (I don't have one to check)
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Aug 08 '22
anyone have the Ruger Mark IV Target, 5.50" Threaded Barrel, Black Anodize, 22LR?
good beginner handgun for target shooting?
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u/iiplatypusiz Aug 09 '22
My Alberta pal timeline: Recieved April 24 CC charge July 22 License final approval August 8 Should arrive in the mail within two weeks according to the website!
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u/Coby9 Aug 09 '22
I have the MCR Absolute beast. Closest thing to an AR available in Canada.
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u/BuyRelevant1000 Aug 09 '22
My MCR has been great.
Some things to note:
- Shoot some steel rounds to smooth the chamber surfaces before shooting brass. Now she cycles everything beautifully; was jamming/denting the brass on the sharp chamber edges first range trip.
- It's over gassed. Tosses rounds at about 2 o'clock. I dont see this as an issue as it allows me to shoot surplus better. However, see next point.
- Locktite your gas screw. This seems to be an issue on both rifles, and on my last range trip when taking apart my gun to clean I noticed my screw had become halfway undone. Likely caused by the force of it being overgassed as mentioned, so just locktite it so you don't need to worry about it.
- My handguard kepty sliding off, I got a better handguard from TNA and it hasn't moved since. They will warranty your handguard but they require you to send in the entire rifle which I wasn't about (bans, etc.) so I just bought a new one from TNA.
- Depending on where your hand goes it'll mark your hand up with the gas coming out of the handguard. Lots of little fixes for this but I just used a vertical grip/moved my hand slightly forward.
Despite these little issues, the MCR is a fantastic rifle. people complain a lot about these issues and while I agree, it's the price we pay for having to reinvent the AR for the canadain market after the ban. For the price of $1800 after tax it's one of the most affordable "not an AR" rifles you can get, which we will never get again come next round of lists/bans. Also, its loud AF with the muzzle brake.
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Aug 09 '22
Hey everyone,
I'm not allowed to keep handguns in my house. My friend has his restricted and is willing to keep mine there.
How do I go about that and is it even possible?
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u/giovannigionta Aug 09 '22
Another option would be to become a member of a shooting club that also provides storage services. This way you will be able to shoot it whenever you want.
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u/_Connor Aug 09 '22 edited Aug 09 '22
Yes, you can do it. You need to call the CFO and get an ATT for them to store it.
Not sure how this would work in the long run though. Most people who do something like this only do it for a week or two at a time when they're going on vacation or something. Not sure what will happen if you ask for an ATT for an indefinite length.
Are you 'not allowed' legally or because people in your life don't want them there? If it's the latter, it's probably just easier to hide it in your own house. Handgun cases are small.
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u/Particular_Koala_124 Aug 09 '22
Does anyone have any info on a timeline to receive their RPAL/PAL in QC/Quebec? Is it the same as other provinces ~4-5 months? My credit card was charged last week and the initial review is complete.
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u/orgasmosisjones Aug 09 '22
Application for a non-restricted submitted on January 22nd and received on February 14. Card charged shortly after. Called to make sure my application was all in order, and it was, and the representative said I should have my licence in hand in 3-4 weeks which even I knew was ambitious. Current status is still in the initial review state and I of course can’t get an update over the phone, because the phone lines are always too busy. Approaching the six month mark now. Any idea how much longer I have to wait?
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u/jx84 Aug 09 '22
My PAL/RPAL took 4.5 months. Just received it last week. 6 months is definitely too long. Call them. I was able to get through multiple times. It just takes persistence, and try to call right when they open.
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Aug 09 '22
I need somebody to tell me if they’ve recently been approved in Ontario pls from April 15-29 mark of your application being received
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u/iloveneuro Aug 10 '22
If you are denied they will send you something by mail. Call them to see what’s up.
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u/Substantial-Cash-834 on Aug 10 '22
Once I order my first restricted, about how long does it take to get the papers in the mail, and what exactly should I be looking for?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Aug 11 '22
As of today, in Ontario, over nine weeks.
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u/Critical-Raccoon-473 Aug 10 '22
Once you purchase from a store, they initiate the transfer- they send your info off and it goes into cue. Long story short, In this current climate, expect many months before you see it. Once it passes thr CFO’s desk, and it’s approved, they email you. They also send you a new RPAL card with an updated ATT. You will have to wait for the new rpal card, the paper work and the firearm before you can bring it anywhere (your range). I ordered one lastnight, received a ref number today or ‘5992 xxx’ so expect a long wait lol..my first one from May 30 (5912xxx) still haven’t heard anything yet…(Ontario)
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u/fltlns Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22
Hey guys so tomorrow's gonna be my last crack at a 9mm. I don't have a lot of money though rn, before this shit storm I was saving for a PDP but got laid off around the same time as the freeze. So now I basically I have a day to decide between a surplus Jericho (had one before and liked it), a girsan mc28 optic ready or an fmk whatever the cheap ones called. The fmk is appealing if it's close to as good as what it pretends to be, the girsan I like because the reason I sold the Jericho is cause I wanted something optic cut, and the Jericho is probably objectively the best of the bunch. What do you guys think?
Edit: thanks for the input guys , ended up going with a canik tp9sf elite
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u/mrbrownthunder Aug 11 '22
Canada First Ammo is doing pre-orders for $100 deposit… they have some 9mm but no total price listed.
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Aug 11 '22
Just preordered a 686, I'm willing to pay over market at this point.
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Aug 11 '22 edited Aug 11 '22
If you liked the Jericho get it again, if you get the Girsan and hate it you're kinda stuck.
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u/OntarioGunEnthusiast Aug 11 '22
I passed my CFSC and CRFSC exams almost three weeks ago. I haven't even received my exam results yet so I'm assuming I won't get my RPAL before spring 2023, or if I'm lucky in winter 2023. My original plan was to start with a 22lr pistol and get into target shooting, something I have been thinking about for over 20 years. Now with this stupid bill C-21 I think it's not gonna happen. I'm really aggravated. I've been thinking about starting with a 223 rem bolt action because the ammo is cheaper and I'm gonna need lots of it for practice. Any thoughts?
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u/Kise93 Aug 11 '22
You can also get a 22LR bolt or semi-auto for practice. Lots of great ones out there
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Aug 11 '22
Also ruger makes a American Ranch gun in 7.62x39 which you can buy in bulk.
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u/DJ_Necrophilia Aug 11 '22
Thinking about grabbing a glock when my license finally gets renewed. I'm typically a full size/service pistol guy which makes me want to go towards a glock 17, but a few people I know really like the glock 19 which is the compact version.
Does anyone have experience one way or another? How did they feel in comparison to each other?
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u/Grimmerthan Aug 12 '22
I bookmarked all of the stores linked from Arsenal Force (opened to handguns, sorted, in stock, etc), and once or twice a day I flip through them.
I see a bunch of guns come and go in a day, usually on the same set of stores. But, other stores's stock doesn't seem to change much at all. And there're similar guns available on these sites (girsan, surplus, CZ, etc).
What up with that? Why aren't all the stocks dropping? What am I missing?
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u/xXWhitePowerRangerXx Aug 12 '22
My PAL just got approved, online status says its been approved and license will arrive in 2 weeks tops. Is my PAL number already available to me somewhere to use before the card arrives? Or do you need the physical picture card only
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u/_Connor Aug 12 '22
Call the CFO and ask for the number so you can order things.
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u/issagoodtime Aug 12 '22
Anyone in ON know how long it's taking to get a transfer reference number on a handgun(s)?
I bought two on May 31st and June 1st in person at a LGS, and still no word...
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u/_Connor Aug 12 '22
Reference number is produced immediately upon initiating the transfer.
Contact the stores you bought from and ask them for it. Some places won't automatically just give it to you. I had to email my LGS to get the transfer number for my CZ.
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u/eastendlife Aug 12 '22
Credit Card charged - March 28
License Approved - Aug 12
What's a good option for a first purchase?
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u/RydNightwish Aug 12 '22
Any .22 NR really. Its a good way to practice the fundamentals of operation, safety and its a cost effective way to get a feel for your preference in shooting. Learn if you like Semi vs Bolt, scope vs irons etc.
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u/jx84 Aug 12 '22
Anyone have any idea how long transfers are taking for handguns in BC? I just purchased my first 2 (one last week and one today).
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u/SharkSaver Aug 13 '22
Had mine go through a day over 7 weeks. By that timeline i should have another one come through in another 2 weeks. Fingers crossed!
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u/s1umcr0w Aug 13 '22
What is the handgun market like right now if I were to try to offload a couple, in comparison to a couple years ago? I'm way out of touch. Did the recent news lead to higher prices as people try to snap up whatever is out there, or lower prices as people try to offload guns before they become paperweights?
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u/ProfessionalFar7916 Aug 13 '22
Where would I find a 20 moa picatinny rail with a recoil lug for a bergara wilderness terrain in .308 aka remington 700 short action?
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u/ProfessionalFar7916 Aug 13 '22
Need help. Vortex diamondback tactical ffp 4-16 or 6-24? For hunting mostly but I wanna do long range target shooting too throughout the year
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u/Imaginary-Throat6951 Aug 08 '22
Can I just say how proud I am of this group that because we all ran to get a handgun they had to put a ban on imports lol.