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Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions
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u/yummybunnybear Sep 21 '22
How long does it take to obtain a one-time ATT these days using the online system? The purpose of the ATT is to bring the firearm to a local gun store for consignment. Thanks for any guidance you can give.
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u/iloveneuro Sep 21 '22
Iām super curious about this as well. Iām thinking of requesting an ATT to borrow my husbands gun just to see how long it takes to process.
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u/wcppdude Sep 23 '22
Ontario PAL Application Timeline
June 26 - Application received
Sept 12 - CC charged and application status available
Sept 22 - Application approved, card āin the mailā
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u/nyg420 Sep 23 '22
I'm happy for you, but this is F'n ridiculous, my application was received in May, CC charged on August 13, I still don't have it, just "initial review complete".
I'm also in Ontario and my application was all No's.
How are people further back in the line getting approved and I'm still waiting and watching the dwindling inventories disappear. So goddamn frustrating and infuriating.
But I'm happy for you man, enjoy it.
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u/wcppdude Sep 23 '22
Crazy, sorry to hear that! Iām shocked it was approved so quickly based on all the stories posted. This application was for an 18yo with all noās. We had/have a plan B (crossbow) if the license doesnāt arrived before Nov. Fingers crossed it actually arrives in the mail.
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u/Bots_R_Us Sep 20 '22
Hullo people!
New in town, PAL/RPAL just approved, so I'm waiting for my physical license so I can hopefully get a handgun before the ban (still a long-shot, I know).
I've seen the topic discussed about purchasing with just your RPAL # (ie: online purchase), and it sounds legal, is at the shop's discretion if that's enough. But does anyone know how to get your RPAL # before you get your card? Is it just calling and hopefully getting a human that can give it to you? Or is there a digital way? My online application on the RCMP website just says approved and I should have it in 3 weeks. But if I can get a purchase going sooner that would obviously be best.
Last: Does anyone know if a purchase/transfer started before the ban is grandfathered in, or are you SOL if you buy and the ban happens?
Cheers!
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 20 '22
Call CFO, ask for PAL number saying you want to join a club. Buy gun online.
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u/iloveneuro Sep 21 '22
When I asked for my license number they said āis it because you want to make a purchaseā and I said yes. Person on the phone said āok, just be aware that they could ask you for a picture of the physical card but itās up to them if they are good with just the license #ā.
No issue with telling them the truth.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 21 '22
Yup, some stores ask for a photo of PAL and Driver's license. I am guessing to verify your home address for shipping.
But in my experience excessive information to the police is often a bad thing. You can lead the horsie cops to water but they only drink beer.
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u/Apples_and_Overtones Your feet suck and so do you Sep 21 '22
I don't have the link on me but it's apparently written in the legislation that transfers in progress once the bill is enacted will go through.
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u/Timtam1225 Sep 21 '22 edited Sep 21 '22
Calling the BC CFO, 8:30 on the dot. 5 calls, got put on hold 2 times both hunt up after 2 minutes. Now itās the canāt take your call line playing. Wish me luck.
Edit 9:12 after 10 calls and being put on hold a few times, I got through and had my transfer done over the phone.
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u/_Connor Sep 18 '22
Anyone run a .22 lever gat? I really want a lever but 45-70 and .357 aren't really conducive to weekend warrior pop can shooting due to price and availability.
I think it would be fun to build a modern (aka black plastic) stubby lever action with pic rails and all that jazz.
Maybe one day I can justify a nice wooden Henry/Marlin in .357 or 45-70
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u/punishwrongthink Sep 18 '22
look at all the space cowboy posts the last couple days
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u/Jxh57601206 Sep 18 '22
Can we still buy handguns? I knew there are some changes but I didnāt exactly follow it. I checked online shops where I used to buy handguns, but they donāt have any! Thanks.
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u/huntcamp Sep 19 '22
You can for the time being, however most people have purchased whatever is left. Right now if you buy a hand gun (depending on province) expect to wait at least 2-3 months, or 12 if youāre in Ontario
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u/Mechaman520 Sep 20 '22
CFO contacted me today, Hopefully I get my license soon!
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22
The CFO is still alive? Nobody has heard anything from CFOON for months. I was worried they starved to death after the mountain of faxes blocked the fire exit.
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u/iloveneuro Sep 23 '22
I finally got through to submit our transfers. Called right at 9am and got on after about 25 minutes on hold.
Iāve been calling 20 times a day for the last week or so and was getting very nervous but I finally made it!
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u/iloveneuro Sep 23 '22
For anyone looking:
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u/iloveneuro Sep 23 '22
Applications are not processed the same way. Timelines are much more variable and dependent on your individual application.
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u/bomberbomberjayjay Sep 25 '22
I live in the Yukon, not that far from Whitehorse and am having a very hard time finding a CFSC to take. Am I crazy for thinking that in a territory of 40000 there should be avenue for me to get a PAL without boarding a plane and traveling South?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 25 '22
https://wrpc.ca/canadian-firearms-safety-course/
Google CFSC course Yukon
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u/jx84 Sep 18 '22
I got my transfer email for my first handgun a couple weeks ago. I was able to pick it up and bring it home but have to wait for the paperwork to come in the mail to take it to the range. On Friday I finally received some mail from the RCMP but it was just an updated license card. Do I still have to wait for more paperwork or is the card all I need?
Thanks for the help!
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Sep 18 '22
By law, yes. You are required to have your registration certificate. I have never heard of a range checking.
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u/_Connor Sep 18 '22
Yes, you'll get another piece of mail with the conditions slip. My conditions slip showed up in 11 business days and my new license showed up the day after that.
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Sep 18 '22
Need to wait for the registration paperwork for your pistol. Mine took about 2 weeks after I got my transfer approved, that was back in June in BC
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u/WeCanDoBettrr Sep 18 '22
I had seen a post somewhere detailing the estimated transfer time for a restricted gun to Ontario but canāt seem to find it anymore. Iām 5924. Sort of hoping to get it in time for Christmas lol.
Does anyone have a link to that? I vaguely remember it being an Excel file.
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u/Holiday-Profit1479 Sep 19 '22
Curious, where are you finding this 5924 number? Iāve only received online receipt and tracking # for mine I bought in August so far. No reference # or anything yet.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 19 '22
The shop should have provided you with a transfer reference number. Call them.
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u/WeCanDoBettrr Sep 19 '22
I purchased from RDSC. I simply emailed them and asked for the transfer number. They replied within hours on a Sunday!
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u/sandyvaginitis Sep 19 '22
Too late for RPal course? I got offered a spot on a restricted pal course next month for a low cost but wondering if thereās any point in getting the license today, are any of the stores even stocking restricted guns because I see most of them are sold out(handguns primarily)? Is the a ban on import of new handguns coming in?
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u/Ordinary-Commercial9 Sep 19 '22
There are lots of restricted firearms other than pistols. If you're specifically only looking for a pistol then don't get your hopes up but otherwise yes it is worth it.
Yes imports are banned, pistol transfer ban to come next month.
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u/Grimmerthan Sep 19 '22
Short term, to be able to own a handgun today, that's likely not happening.
Long term... as OC says already, other restricted firearms remain available at this time.
Also, if other windows of opportunity for handgun ownership open up, perhaps due to legal challenges, you'd be prepared to take advantage of it.
Also, with an RPAL, when you're at a range, you may have a different level of scrutiny from the range officers. For example, ranges may not allow a solo person to shoot unless they carry an RPAL.
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u/Timtam1225 Sep 19 '22
CFO office not even picking up anymore? I called the RCMP number AND the BC cfo extension and they both said their office is currently closed even though itās business hour for them. Did they just disconnect the phone lines all together..?
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u/connor2557 bc Sep 19 '22
it's closed today cause of the funeral, it'll be open tmw, also I was able to get on the phone with the BC Cfo on Friday so it's possible, it took 1.5 hours but I got on
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 19 '22
National day of mourning, as announced by Trudeau the lesser.
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u/LePapaPapSmear Sep 19 '22
Does this mean you would want people to stop mourning for you after 2 weeks?
I don't necessarily agree with the monarchy and all that it represents but she was a big part of a lot of countries for I would assume longer than you have been alive.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 19 '22
I don't necessarily agree with the monarchy
They have been purely ornamental for a very long time. Since shortly after that three-cousin squabble, what was it called again? The Great War?
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u/eyesriot Sep 20 '22
Damn. I purchased June 4, tenda didnāt start the transfer till June 24. I am waiting too šµāš«
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Sep 20 '22
So I spoke with the CFP and was told my license has been issued and told I know hold restricted privileges, however my profile on the individual web services says non-restricted. Am I able to buy a handgun online with my new license number or do I have to wait until it says my profile has been updated to restricted?
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u/justatypo Sep 21 '22
How does the new NR transfer system work? I got this message when I made a recent purchase online "If you would like to use the reference numbers (not expired, each reference number is valid for 90 days) for your next purchase of Non-Restricted firearms in our store, please keep this reference number along with this order number."
Can I use this reference for any other seller within 90 days? Or only from this one merchant?
Also; holy crap I ordered an NR from FOC sept 8th and it's still sitting but I order this NR from Tenda on Monday and it's already verified and shipping.
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Sep 21 '22
Not 100% sure, but keep in mind that for NR, it is not a transfer. It is a 'PAL validation check' reference number.
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u/OntarioGunEnthusiast Sep 21 '22
While I'm waiting for my RPAL, I've been doing a lot a research about bolt action rifles. I've been looking into rifles, actions, stocks, chassis, etc. I have a question what do I need to connect a carbine buttstock like Luth-AR MBA-3 to to a chassis like MDT LSS-XL Gen2 (with carbine buttstock interface)? I've seen conflicting and confusing articles/videos on the Internet.
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u/ggdrguy Sep 22 '22
Since the chassis itself doesnāt come with it you would need a buffer tube, likely a fixed style(non adjustable) for aesthetics reason. The Luth-ar works with either commercial or milspec specs so either are fine. I will say after owning both, the mdt is definitely a superior buttstock and I would recommend buying one from them with the chassis.
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u/OntarioGunEnthusiast Sep 22 '22
Thanks for the reply! So I don't need the buffer body and spring?
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u/ggdrguy Sep 22 '22
To me the body would be the buffer tube that you do need, what you donāt need is the spring or the plunger(what rides on the spring)
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u/OntarioGunEnthusiast Sep 22 '22
The reason I am interested in Luth-AR MBA-3 is that I noticed it is used in Howa HCR and Mossberg MVP precision. I've been looking for a .223 Rem bolt action chassis rifle to begin with, for ammo costs. Unfortunately I'm a perfectionist and very picky, so I came up with the idea of building a rifle using Howa .223 Rem Barreled action, MDT LSS-XL Gen2 chassis, Luth-AR MBA-3 or MBA-1, MDT folding stock adapter, MDT grip and a muzzle brake. Then I realized Ruger Precision Rifle .308 is cheaper! Unfortunately it's not available in .223 Rem anymore.
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u/ggdrguy Sep 22 '22
I only mention that because I have a Howa apc Canadian with the Luth-ar stock and took it off in favour of the mdt. It feels way better quality and make. If you can wait mdt usually has a big sale for Black Friday .
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u/ProfessionalFar7916 Sep 21 '22
Hi there, need help finding the best side by side shotguns under $1000 plz. So far I'm looking at stoesger uplander supreme and cz g2 Bob white. Is there any with ejectors under 1k? Is over and unders just an all around better version of doubledbarreled shotguns?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 21 '22
The best? The best cheap? The best SxS?
Over/Under are easier to shoot because barrel convergence is vertical.
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u/amf716medic Sep 21 '22
In Sask. Iāve had two transfer notifications in the last day for purchases from July 12th and 14th. Moving along anyway.
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u/eyesriot Sep 21 '22
sent an email to Ontario CFO. They are currently processing orders from June 4 š¤
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u/TheSmallSlice Sep 22 '22
Mine was received on the 30th of June.......at the rate they're going mine will probably be like another 2 months or something.... sigh kinda a bummer cause I'm going out hunting with my friends for season opening but I still won't be able to participate with a gun in my hands. I'll only be able to do like half the season possibly not even that.
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u/ODINSPULSAR Sep 23 '22
He's talking about restricted transfers. Not new applications. You should get your CC charged soon then it's only a few more weeks of wait if everything in your application is correct.
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u/lologd Part-time Clay Destroyer Sep 22 '22
I tried to renew my license online, I got a confirmation number but never asked for payment. How dead is my dog?
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u/kohny53 Sep 22 '22
Just got my rpal number over email. Am I allowed to purchase online with the number without the physical card?
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u/jaredmn Sep 22 '22
Yes, but some sellers may require a photo of your licence.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 22 '22
So that they can confirm address and check the photo on your driver's license, typically for online nonrestricted sales.
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u/rafammbass Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
ALMOST ONE YEAR WITH THE SAME STATUS! CANNOT GET ONTARIO CFO ON THE PHONE.
What should/can I do? This is for my PAL/RPAL (R probably now useless)
Application number 10-00945XXXXX-XX
Application received on 2021-10-18
Current status: We have completed the initial review of your firearms licence application. If additional information is required, you will be contacted. Please check the status again at a later date.
EDIT: ONTARIO CFO
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u/jaredmn Sep 22 '22
Thatās way too long. Keep calling and write to them. After this long, I think calling your MP or MLA (depending on whether your CFO is federally or provincially appointed) is warranted at this point (cc your your MP/MLA on your e-mail to the CFO). Hopefully you have a MP/MLA that isnāt anti-gun. If they arenāt helpful, you might need to lean on them a little more heavily (e.g., āWhether or not you support private firearms ownership, the processing of firearms licence applications is a government service and I am entitled under the Firearms Act to be provided this service without unreasonable delayā, or something along those lines). Even if you need to take a stronger approach like that, make sure you stay polite and reasonableā¦ donāt give them a reason not to help you.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 22 '22
Call/FAX/email cfoon@cfp-pcaf.ca
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u/rafammbass Sep 22 '22
I will do smoke signal tomorrow morning
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 23 '22
Most multifunction printers can do facsimile, you will need POTS or an ATA to your VoIP.
Good luck.
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u/lever_achtung Sep 23 '22
new shooter here and finding a dearth of gun clubs and ranges in Simcoe County. Those that do exist seem to either be inactive, not accepting new members, have a very long waiting list, and/or only accepting new members sponsored by those already part of the club.
Anyone aware of a good place or range at which to practice? Driving north for hours each time to use Crown Land is an option but not a great one... thanks in advance, much obliged.
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u/Forward_Smoke_3383 Sep 23 '22
Yo a private seller I'm trying to get a .454 revolver off of hasn't initiated a transfer for 3 weeks now. Is it THAT HARD to get a hold of the Canadian Firearms center right now?
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u/TheSmallSlice Sep 25 '22
Found out CC was charged on the 14th September (Ontario, PAL), would it be reasonable to assume it could be approved within the next couple weeks or perhaps the next month?
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Sep 25 '22
Are you allowed to take your restricted firearms with you in the event of an emergency to evacuate? Say, hurricane Fiona or if your house was on fire? There was a condo building that recently caught fire in my neighbourhood and it got me thinking, everybody has access to the building now and can easily steal stuff there that's left behind.
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u/ggdrguy Sep 25 '22
That is actually a great question. I would say without any legal knowledge of this, just my two cents of reasoning, that it would be illegal without an att. Having said that there might be a provision in the act regarding this but I donāt remember ever seeing it.
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Sep 26 '22
I remember during the Fort Mac fire the Alberta CFO issued a blanket decree of "take them with you and we'll sort it out later", but I don't think there is a legal provision for it
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u/xKYLx on Sep 23 '22
Just getting the word out there that Roger Kontanko's firearms are up for auction right now at Lansborough auctions. If you want to support the family this is one way to do it by buying the guns for sale by his estate
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u/Cosmic_Tigers Sep 18 '22
What part of the handgun is considered restricted? Looking at getting some extra parts before things change and was just curious.
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u/jaredmn Sep 18 '22
As I understand it, just the frame. Youāll be able to get all of the parts for it still, including slides and barrels, etc.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 18 '22
Frame in 98% of handguns. Two exceptions I know of are SiG p320 is the trigger group, and Walther GSP is the "upper"
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u/Cosmic_Tigers Sep 18 '22
Which extra parts would you recommend to get?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 18 '22
Parts won't be a problem unless they are banned from import. Otherwise get aftermarket springs.
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u/Bibby_Collins Sep 19 '22
I purchased a restricted firearm online and just received a transfer number from the seller. I'm not very familiar with the new laws when it comes to restricted firearms as this is my first. Am I supposed to use the transfer number for something or what? Thanks for the help.
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u/FedorTokarev on Sep 19 '22
Private sale or from a store?
If it was a private sale you need to call inwoth your reference number to compete the transfer. If it was from a business you don't need to do anything
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u/llebberrr Sep 19 '22
No, just wait for the xfer to be approved, and the registration to come via mail.
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u/RowRowRowsYourBoat Sep 20 '22
Newbie question here, but are there any non-restricted handguns anymore? Or are they all restricted/prohibited?
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u/chillyrabbit Sep 20 '22
All handguns are prohibited or restricted.
At best there are "not a handgun" restricted rifles like the VZ 61, and B&T TP9.
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u/Alarming_Cell4130 Sep 20 '22
Has anyone moved residences with pending transfers?
I have some restricted transfers pending for 2+ months and may be moving soon. Canāt reach the CFP at all. Iām assuming if I update my address online, at the very least the transfers wonāt be approved/pistols wonāt be sent to my (soon-to-be) old address? Thatās my main concern
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u/thedarktemplarI Sep 21 '22
any one who mailed in their PAL in August got any status updates?
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u/iloveneuro Sep 21 '22
You are not going to hear anything until the 3-4 month mark when they process your payment. Way too early right now.
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u/sousaj87 Sep 21 '22
Hey sorry stupid question here... but i just got my rpaland bought a few handguns. Im an ontario resident. Do i need to be a member of a shooting range in order for them to issue me an att?
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Sep 21 '22
In Ontario, no. You will get a new PAL card with the Transportation Condition (printed on the front in the lower centre). That is what we usually call your Long Term or Permanent ATT. In Ontario you do not need a range membership.
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u/justatypo Sep 21 '22
In Ontario you do not need a range membership to purchase a handgun. The ATT issued once transferred will allow you to take it home and then to a range and back. But it does not need to be only one range or a specific range, so far as I'm aware.
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u/sousaj87 Sep 21 '22
Thanks...i well eventually be a member somewhere i was just hoping not being one yet wouldn't delay me in getting my toys. I just bought private and when on the phone with cfp they asked the reason then asked if im part of a range i said not yet.
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u/ggdrguy Sep 22 '22
Just an fyi the person above isnāt 100% correct. The att attached to your RPAL letās you go to and from any range in your province. Once you get your new RPAL and the guns registration of course. Donāt forget to keep the paper slip with the new license.
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u/DJ_Necrophilia Sep 21 '22
Been waiting for my RPAL renewal since March. Finally got fed up and emailed my MP. Dunno what it'll do, but it can't make things worse, right?
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u/Fine-Masterpiece9943 Sep 21 '22
i did the same. emailed the wrong one at first. she said she MAY be able to help as she has a new contact for the cfo-on. once she realized i wasnt i her immediate area she forwarded my info to the correct mp for my community.. no respose from him yet.
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u/tacmed123 Sep 21 '22
Iāve been looking around for a place to sight in a rifle for the upcoming hunting season as well as for practice. I remember coming across a webpage or two that offered walk inās at their ranges but can no longer find them. Anyone know a place that takes walk inās near the GTA? Or if anyone is willing to take guests Iād be happy to return the favour at my range (25m). TIA
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Sep 21 '22
You could use a ballistics calculator and then sight it in at your 25m range. ...
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 22 '22
A surprisingly common problem of hunters not wanting to support sport shooting clubs.
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Sep 22 '22
I might be overthinking this, but I had a question about my application.
Specifically when it comes to job loss, Iām currently a university student and I mainly work in the summer. In the past 2 years Iāve had 3 jobs I no longer work.
1 of them I quit because I contracted COVID-19.
The other 2 were explicitly temporary positions, 1 was a temporary 16 week internship, and the other was a temporary position with Elections Canada during the last federal election.
Should I still check āyesā on the box?
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u/anarchitect898 Sep 22 '22
I sent in my documents a month ago. Nothing available on the portal. Is this normal?
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Sep 22 '22 edited Sep 22 '22
Rpal upgrade timeline
Mailed June 6
Received June 9
Cc charged august 25
Emailed cfo on September 15 and got an email back on the 20th saying they pulled and approved my application.
Hopefully be able to snag a couple pistols in time.any idea when the freeze will hit?
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u/AromaticAutomatic Sep 22 '22
Iām new to all this as I just got my license and Iām looking for some suggestions from the community on what to buy. I have a gun safe from my grandfather but nothing to fill it with. Iād like a nice .308 bolt action something thatās reliable and accurate I like the look of modern rifles but Iām open to wood options as well and surplus rifles. Iām also looking for advice on semi automatic rifles for target shooting and range shooting when I eventually find and join a range. I realize thereās not a lot of options for semi automatics anymore but again I want something reliable. Thanks in advance!
(Sorry if this is the wrong place to post)
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u/remms123 Sep 22 '22
Whatās your budget? That will be the biggest factor. Savage and Ruger make some great budget bolt action hunting rifles. I have a Ruger Hawkeye mk 2 in .308 and couldnāt be happier with it. They are more pricey though.
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u/NAVI12IJ Sep 22 '22
I will soon buy the FX-9 non-restricted. It's a pistol caliber carabine and fonctions a bit like an AR. It's the only one I know that hasn't been banned by the OIC. I've watched a couple reviews and it's not the most reliable. The first rifle I bought was a 22LR semi auto. (savage 64F) and it's quite nice to shoot. It has no recoil. My father in law gave me an .243 rifle for hunting and I like it as well.
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u/AromaticAutomatic Sep 22 '22
I havenāt looked too much into the smaller caliber rifles but they seem super fun to shoot. Iāve seen some videos of those GSG .22 LR firearms and they seem pretty cool. Iāll take a look at the FX-9 thank you for the suggestion!
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 22 '22
and fonctions a bit like an AR
Nope, other than bullets come out.
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u/Impossible-Apricot-1 Sep 23 '22
My first gun was a mosin 91/30 you can find them anywhere from 450-650$ it shoots 7.62x54r (a little larger than 308) it's not the most accurate at around 5 moa but it should work fine for hunting and target practice. Non-corosive ammo is 1$/ea and corrosive is like .5$/ea. Unless you get the sniper variant mounting a scope is not really possible without irreversibly modifying it.
Edit: it's also incredibly reliable
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u/NAVI12IJ Sep 22 '22
Hello all,
I'm from the province of quebec.
I finally got my RPAL issued 8 days ago (RCMP website) after sending it by mail in March, but I haven't recieved it yet in the mail. I still ordered a MR920 on FOC (only thing availiable) and I'm currently waiting on the transfer by the CFO. I have a couple questions.
Will my transfer go trough ? Is the RPAL number going to be the same as my old PAL? (I'm 99% sure it is) How about expiration date, will it be the same ?
This is my first restricted purchase. How long does it takes usually for the CFO to do the transfer in quebec ? Are my references going to get called? Would it help if they call the CFO?
Am I in danger to never get my restricted transfered with the new law taking effect soon ?
Will I get an RPAL with standard conditions attached ? Or will I need to get an ATT to go to the range ?
Sorry if this has been discussed before, I'm quite new to this.
Thanks!
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u/MetricsFBRD Sep 22 '22
Suppose you have sent a copy of your shooting club membership to CFO by email/mail/fax:
1, same expiration date, the only difference is the .002 instead of .001 on your new card.
2, before this handgun ban thing, 1st time restricted firearm buyer have to wait almost 1 month longer, and all your references even yourself will be called. Itās in general not recommended to ask your references to call CFO beforehand. When your references got the call, it means the transfer should be completed in a couple of days.
3, Transfers already in process shouldnāt be affected, but who knows? Both stock market and liberal Gvt are not predictable.
4, new conditions will be sent with your new RPAL. You donāt need an ATT to travel between your address and shooting clubs located in the same province.
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u/baimo0514 Sep 23 '22
Hi guys, here in BC.
Just got approved and issued yesterday, how much longer should I expect to get the physical card usually?
Thanks!
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Sep 23 '22
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Sep 23 '22
Yes. But it is just a "Freeze" until we elect a Conservative government.
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Sep 23 '22
There is zero chance of an "Unfreeze" with any other party. The Conservatives definitely intend to reverse the freeze, the real question is if they will have the political will to do it.
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Sep 24 '22
I wouldnāt be surprised if they completely neglected firearms issues until a couple years into their term. Not necessarily a political move, but rather they have so many other things to unfuck (or try to unfuck in the way Conservatives do) first.
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Sep 24 '22
I would not be surprised if you are right. For most voters, the firearms file is such low priority. It is only us 2 million gun owners who care so much.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 24 '22
Rest assured there will be legal battles (there are a few right now).
Rest assured the government has unlimited tax revenue to spend on legal battles.
Join the CCFR
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Sep 23 '22
Just a transfer update, June 4th purchase, transfer #5908xxx, transfer approved today. Pretty much spot on for the cgn list.
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Sep 23 '22
What province?
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u/Greatfuldead666 on Sep 23 '22
Best way to get rust off a rifle?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 24 '22
Boil, then 0000 steel wool, the kerosine, assuming it was blued steel.
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u/Routine_Ad6904 Sep 24 '22
Sent RPAL application in January, still no update, is that normal? My colleague sent his PAL application in may and he got his pink card already (3 months) while I am still waiting it's been like 9 months god damn
QC
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u/ggdrguy Sep 24 '22
Did you answer yes to any questions that might delay or application? If not I would call in. Was your cc charged?
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u/raider_1001 on Sep 25 '22
Is there any restrictions on renewing my RPAL after I moved to the States? Can I just put a US based address on my Service Canada portal?
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u/nommerofmangoes Sep 25 '22
My range membership is lapsed, if I buy a Silvercore membership and a handgun on the same day, will there be any problems? My RPAL was recently renewed and it was lapsed then too.
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Sep 18 '22
I haven't been able to find a clear answer so far, is it legal in Canada to fire a gun with neighbours? How close to a neighbours house or highway is it legal? My municipality has no bylaws regarding firearms so it is strictly provincial and federal legislation that would apply here. I like to shoot rats and the like with bird shot in my 22 but am nervous about whether it's actually legal or not.
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u/TheSunshineVampire Sep 19 '22
Ok took a look at the resource, it may be a provincial thing. Our in New Brunswick is as follows:
Legal distance
ā¢ It is illegal to discharge a rim-fire rifle, a centrefire rifle or shotgun loaded with ball or slug within
400 metres of a dwelling, school, playground,
athletic field, solid waste disposal site or place
of business.
ā¢ It is illegal to discharge any shotgun or muzzleloading firearm within 200 metres of a dwelling,
school, playground, athletic field, solid waste
disposal site or place of business.
ā¢ It is illegal to discharge any bow or crossbow
within 100 metres of a dwelling, school,
playground, athletic field, solid waste disposal
site or place of business.
Buckshot is not considered āballā or āslugā and
can be discharged between 200 metres and 400
metres.
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u/TheSunshineVampire Sep 19 '22
double check the hunter safety booklet but I was pretty sure it was 200 meters from various buildings or landmarks (parks, ect) for shotgun (pellets) and 400 meters for bullets (traditional bullets or slugs / sabbots)
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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube Sep 20 '22
My BC transfers finally went through, and all 3 of them!!!
I just emailed the CFP a few weeks ago and it looks liek they got through and finished up all my transfers!
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Sep 20 '22
Has anyone had success emailing the CFP asking for your RPAL number after it says it has been issued on the individual web services?
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u/planopticon Sep 22 '22
In Alberta, bought a handgun on Aug 30, still waiting as of today (Sep 22), so if it is a week here they forgot mine!
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u/newtardsadge Sep 20 '22
Hi, I recently posted about problems with my application and that I'd have to reapply, but actually I double checked what I sent and it seems everything is in order. I have checked Canada post, and it says they delivered my package to the RCMP office in Miramichi. However, when I check online it says there is no application that matches my information. Two months ago I was willing to accept this since it said to check later, but its late September and there is still no record of my application. What am I to do? I keep trying to call the CFP but they keep saying they're busy.
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Sep 20 '22
You wonāt see anything online until they charge your CC, which is usually ~3-4months
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u/newtardsadge Sep 20 '22
My package arrived July 11, should I wait until around mid November to start getting concerned then?
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u/Happy-Firefighter-30 Sep 22 '22
For legal reasons this is hypothetical.
Say you opened a "gun safe" that was legally a safe. But was by all common sense a cabinet.
Say this "safe" has a lock that rotates 90Ā° to "lock". And is uncovered.
Say you put a soft bag (with ammo) into this safe after a range day to comply with laws in Canada.
Say this soft bag shifts and falls on the latch that rotates.
Say this prevents the safe from opening.
Say this causes you to forcefully open the safe with household tools in 20 minutes.
Say this destroyed the locking mechanism.
Would in this theoretical situation an external latch with a padlock be akin to a safe designed to store guns (restricted need no trigger lock) or a secure storage place (restricted firearms still need a trigger lock).
Again, this of hypothetical.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 22 '22
You don't need to keep ammo in a locked container.
The law doesn't specify what type of lock is on the container.
Read the law for yourself.
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/Regulations/SOR-98-209/page-1.html#h-1019943
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u/tokelypuff Sep 23 '22
Called the Ontario CFO office today about a transfer I started back in June and they said they are working on transfers from the week of June 4th.
Just a PSA update on timelines for restricted transfers in Ontario. Hopefully it saves a few people from waiting on hold for 45 minutes just to be hung up on or not able to get through at all.
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u/iloveneuro Sep 23 '22
I donāt get the point of calling for updates on your transfer. If you know itās in the system and you have your transfer number, why not just wait? There are lots of people posting when they get theirs approved so that should provide a good enough measure of where youāre at.
Not criticizing I just canāt imagine wanting to call them again after I finally got through.
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u/tokelypuff Sep 23 '22
2 Reasons. 1. I hate the lack of communication in govt. run black hole systems 2. I'm impatient lol.
I trusted the process for my PAL/RPAL only to find out after waiting 6 months that it was held up in limbo because the wrong fee was on the form and it was short $0.75. Had I not called back then, I'd probably still be waiting on it LOL. When I called I gave them my Mastercard for the $0.75 and it immediately flipped into approval. I realize transfers are different, but same black hole system applies.
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Sep 20 '22
Not applicable. What can affect your application is criminal record, negative police interactions, References or spouse or partner calling the 1800 number to report you as unstable, mental illness. Income/career are not even part of the application (and why would they?).
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u/pjosephsmith Sep 23 '22
What is up with the RCMP phones lately? I spent months calling them in my spare time just to get kicked off because the lines are busy. 4 months latter I get thru and their payment system is down. I'm trying again yesterday and today and every time I am put on hold, the time is random between 30 seconds to 25 minutes just to get hung up on! Is this how they're making their call times look better for their next audit? (From ontario, calling at 10 cause I'm busy til ten then randomly thru out the day. Preferably before the lines open up to the rest of the provinces. Trying to pay for my first license, not doing the online thing because we all know how good web security and government are).
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u/iloveneuro Sep 23 '22
I assure you they are not purposefully dropping calls. Their system is overloaded and only has so many lines. A few times I even got the āthe customer you have reach is unavailableā message from the telecom so their lines are just busy.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 24 '22
Trying to pay for my first license, not doing the online thing because
This is why credit cards protect you from fraud. Good luck.
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u/FRED040513 Sep 18 '22
How can I safely decock my CZ 457? I'm new to firearm ownership but I do know that dry firing rimfires isn't recommended. I assume you hold the trigger while slowly closing the action, however there is still a faint click (less loud and harsh than dry fire) when I bring down the bolt handle. Should I be concerned? What can I do to prevent damage to the breech/firing pin?
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u/cryrid Sep 19 '22
If you're really concerned, you could pick up a few 22lr snap caps
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u/thegarlic_man Sep 19 '22
The wk180c any good? Been saving up for a bit and just wondering if this gun is any good compared to other semi auto rifles around this price
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u/huntcamp Sep 19 '22
Get gen2 if you decide to, but they are hit or missā¦ you either get one that is flawless or one that falls apart. Kodiak is good though for warranty stuff
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u/thegarlic_man Sep 19 '22
Thanks brother hope you have an amazing week
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Sep 19 '22
I second that "flawless or falls apart". I have a late gen 1; only issue it's ever had is the nylon bushing shattering in -20 weather. I've heard many other stories of rifles that fell apart real quick. Guess I got lucky
Id recommend either gen 2 or late gen 1, though I'm not sure how you'd confirm if it's late gen 1 or not. Might recommend waiting a bit on the gen 2 if you have time so they can iron out the kinks
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u/thegarlic_man Sep 19 '22
Thanks for the advice. Might just keep saving till I have money for a tavor then
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Sep 19 '22
Can early lee Enfield rifles be antique? I was reading another post about the antique handgun for bear, and I looked up how old a rifle has to be. Said something about pre 1898, but the language isn't very clear for a smooth brain non lawyer like myself. Mines 1896
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 19 '22
with the exception of a repeating firearm fed by any type of cartridge magazine.
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Sep 19 '22
Ontario cfo Gonna be open today? Or closed because of the queens death
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Not sure. I know the RCMP will be but the CFO will probably be open since it's not a Provincial holiday.
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u/deletekeemstar Sep 19 '22
My PAL was issued 18 days ago, but I still haven't recieved it in the mail (BC).
Should I be worried?
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Sep 19 '22
Mine took a while 2-3 weeks (BC)
I wouldn't worry about it it should come soon.
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u/Bots_R_Us Sep 20 '22
BC CFO
I'm on pretty much the same timeline, the CFO I talked to to said I should have it in 3 weeks, and he seemed cool.
Why do I say he's cool? Because I screwed up my application ā garbled a reference phone number (wanted to die). I sent in the revised paperwork months ago with no update so I started calling. Finally got through, told him my sob story, he told me to hold, and just fixed the application right there. The next part blew my mind: it automatically approved the application by doing that one thing.
When he came back on the line "I have good news for you", understatement of the year.
Now we are just racing the clock on the ban. Fingers crossed, comrade.
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u/[deleted] Sep 20 '22 edited Sep 20 '22
5 call attempts today to the BC CFO
Get through on attempt 4, call drops while on hold
Attempt 5 goes through again and I manage to get my information and question off, call drops while on hold.
Horse Shoe luck so far today š¤
Edit: and weāre approved for transfer baby!!