r/canadaguns • u/Acceptable_Visit_115 • Apr 14 '26
Misc Makasi (FAL-AR hybrid) approved by the RCMP as NON-RESTRICTED
According to CGN it was granted a NR FRT #198428 very recently. Any BFL/verifiers here care to check?
Edit: Multiple BFLs have verified it to be true NR, and the importer/distributor is Gravel Agency
From the manufacturer's website:
The Makasi marries the functional aesthetic of the FAL with the familiar handling of AR-style controls. It features a short stroke gas piston system and bufferless recoil system and operates with a non-reciprocating side charging handle. The Para-style stock is also side-folding and is supported with a robust two-screw mounting system that allows for firing in both the folded and deployed positions.
Materials
Upper Receiver: 7075-T6 Aluminum Billet
Lower Receiver: 7075-T6 Aluminum Billet
Finish: Cerakote
Barrel: 4150 Chrome-Moly Vanadium, Nitride Barrel
Features
Finish: Cerakote
Platform: Makasi
Caliber: 5.56x45MM NATO
Fire Control Group: Mil-Spec
Grip: A2 Pistol
Handguard: Makasi, M-LOK Free float rail, 12in
Stock: Para Folding Stock
Chamber: 5.56x45mm
Barrel Twist: 1:7
Barrel Length: 16in (NR version is 18in)
Barrel Extension: M4
Muzzle thread: 1/2x28
Muzzle device: Brigade MFG- 3 Prong
Bolt Carrier Group: Makasi BCG
Magazine: AR15/M4 Type
Takedown Lever: Ambidextrous
Operating System: Short stroke gas piston system
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u/rastamasta45 Apr 14 '26
If these come into the market, doesn’t matter the price, they’ll be sold out. Even with the threat of a ban, it’s NR and people will eat them all up.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
Seems to be around 1468USD (2000CAD) on their US site.
After the obligatory NR tax, I'd expect it to retail at 2500CAD. But they are basically handed a monopoly on a golden platter... So there could be price gouges.
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u/greennalgene Apr 14 '26
If it’s not a piece of shit, sold.
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u/Rogan403 Apr 15 '26
I'd rather have a really neat POS gun than no neat POS gun. Besides I like to tinker with my shit and usually it doesn't take much work to rectify any quirks a gun has.
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR Apr 15 '26
Id bet against that when it comes to crusader arms... absolute hot garbage.
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u/LuckNo2351 Apr 14 '26
1770 usd as the picture showed, also with 18.6 inch barrel, probably 1800 usd?i would like to say its probably like a bren 2, 3499cad. you cannot just convert the exchange rate.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
The $1776 one came with some extra bits. Common tactic for markups. I'd expect 99% of the people here to buy the $1468 base model and kit it out with their own furniture.
The restricted Bren 2s were basically straight USD-CAD conversions. The official NR version was cancelled due to CZ adjusting production needs due to Ukraine. The Bren 2 NR conversions are therefore price gouged to hell at a $1500 premium.
$500 NR tax is a pretty reasonable guess. It tracks. That makes it around C$2800 after tax.
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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Apr 14 '26
Still better value than the backland hunter. People will drop insane money on this
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u/kennethdavid Apr 19 '26
100%. Had a guy show up to the range with one, brand new. Couldn't fire a round. Bolt was faulty, seems firing pin wasn't doing the job.
Crusader is a dead company IMO.
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u/thatguy56436327 Apr 14 '26
To me it matters nore that they exist, i want an sks but as they are the only semi auto on the market, the prices are crazy. But having hight end models available let the people how can get those gun by them instead.
Tldr even tho it will be expensive I am happy because I think it will drop demand on the sks
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u/truthdoctor bc Apr 14 '26
The cheapest version is currently on sale at $1,131.56 USD with free shipping. Which is about $1557.78 CAD. Even for $2.5k CAD these would sell out immediately. I'd like to see one in .308 and I'd pay a lot more for it as long as it is accurate and reliable.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
The cheapest version is a US "pistol" without the stock and has a short barrel. I'd expect them to charge more with a full rifle lol
Alternatively, it'd be cool to see them ship a "bare bones" version with just the barreled action, and have us buy our own handguards, grips, and stocks.
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u/Gonky69 Apr 14 '26
"sigh" welcome back to the Canadian market FAL. how long will you last this time? probaly alot shorter then last time
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u/T-Rex-Plays Apr 14 '26
How in the world...... no way this lasts.
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u/jollygreengiant1655 Apr 14 '26
Nope. There'll be a new OIC incoming to ban these new guns. Plus a bunch of others, just because
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
Now that they have a majority they don't even need an OIC. They can ram through a bill that bans everything semiauto.
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u/jollygreengiant1655 Apr 14 '26
This would not at all surprise me.
On the other hand, I think the resistance they are seeing is giving them pause.
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u/diabeetussssss Apr 15 '26
Funny that they care about resistance now that no one can stop the ideological tyrants since they basically have 100% power
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u/Dickastigmatism Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
They could've before anyway, there wouldn't have been much of a fight from the NDP this time around. I think this has been the plan for Carney government all along but the unpopularity of the buyback and the SKS-Indigenous issue seem to be legit roadblocks.
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u/mischling2543 Apr 14 '26
Yeah my northern riding has a Liberal MP but there would be riots if she voted to ban the SKS
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u/gamercast1337 Apr 15 '26
But its the will of the people they clearly asked for it by voting in a liberal , be glad you have someone as gracious as them in charge 😌
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u/outline8668 Apr 14 '26
That takes time to wind through the house and senate. They will do OIC then follow up with the legislation later
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u/Candid-Tomato2971 Apr 18 '26
I wouldn’t hold my breath, I’ve seen bills rip through to assent in 2 weeks
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u/Fine-Tie2651 Apr 14 '26
There is no need for a bill as an oic is much faster
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u/Dickastigmatism Apr 14 '26
Faster, but Trudeau's abuse of the OIC has left the Carney government with a mess and the optics of a bill are much better.
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u/Various_Piano_8053 Apr 15 '26
Plus they've already shown they will pass multiple bills that are detrimental to Canadians.
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u/AceArchangel Apr 15 '26
First it was assault style weapons, then rapid fire, soon it will be high powered rifles. There is no winning against an anti-gun lobby with complete federal support. We will likely be a gun-free country within a decade at this rate.
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u/Rogan403 Apr 15 '26
I don't need it to last. I just need the opportunity to legally aquire one. They can hoot and holler about it all they want after that for all i care.
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u/Huge_One5777 Apr 15 '26
Yup, just needs to arrive at my door as a non restricted. I can boating accident it from there!
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u/Mirin_Gains Apr 15 '26
Acquire it and immediately blow it up with a bad reload.
Jokes aside. I still have copium in my veins for SCC and Canadians being pissed if Libs 2nd chance is more gun bans instead of economy.
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u/tetraacetic Apr 14 '26
nice to see a new traditional hunting rifle available in 5.56, with absolutely NO relation or resemblance to ayyarrfifteen. This is a hunting rifle, and its classification should be consistent with the FRT rather than politicized labeling.
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u/tyler111762 Resident Certified Millennial Punk Apr 14 '26
Heard rumors about this for a few days now.
Interesting to say the least.
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u/ClubDeTirDeMontreal Club de Tir de Montreal (Verified) Apr 14 '26
Yep. NR
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
Nice! Does the BWS FRT show who the importer/distributor is on the report?
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u/ClubDeTirDeMontreal Club de Tir de Montreal (Verified) Apr 14 '26
Yes it does. CRAFM has placed an order already for some MK-15’s. More info soon
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u/PT6A-27 Apr 14 '26
Are you guys taking pre-orders for these already? I’d definitely be interested in getting my name on a list for one of these.
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u/ClubDeTirDeMontreal Club de Tir de Montreal (Verified) Apr 14 '26
It will be FCFS :)
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u/Dave_JSL Apr 14 '26
Will it be on the online store? I live in BC and I don’t want to miss this chance.
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u/ClubDeTirDeMontreal Club de Tir de Montreal (Verified) Apr 15 '26
Yes they will also go live online. Pricing & ETA will be announced by the end of the week. Cheers
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u/SolemnSpider Apr 14 '26
Amazing. AR-15s are prohib, FALs are prohib, but this rifle takes inspiration from both and is compatible with neither. Truly Schrodinger's rifle.
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u/looloopklopm Apr 14 '26
Stupid question but
Semi auto?
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
Yes, short stroke gas piston that seems to be properly constructed (like a MCX), instead of a WK180.
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u/NaarNoordenMan Apr 14 '26
Whose going to be selling them? I sat on the fence last time and all I have to show for it is a sore butt.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
The full FRT should contain the importer information, if some BFL/Verifier here could pull it up it'd be appreciated lol
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u/jay370gt Apr 14 '26
Just get it and don’t comply? What they gonna do? Kick down 2 million doors and jail all of us?
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u/0529605294 Apr 17 '26
I hope that you don't just say this kind of shit on reddit.
not being sarcastic.
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u/SonOfJaak Apr 14 '26
I want this in 308.
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u/Eisgeschoss Apr 14 '26
Same; if I had the money, I'd of course want it in both, but given a choice of either 5.56 or .308, I'd take the latter first.
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u/Loud_Cap_4250 Apr 14 '26
How do I buy one right now
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u/marston82 Apr 14 '26
Why does it matter if it’s RCMP approved as NR, poly and the liberals will just OIC ban it later.
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u/Geralt-of-Rivai Apr 14 '26
Might be able to get a few months out of it, go out often and go crazy!
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u/IntrepidKitchen5322 Apr 15 '26
Crazy how some of y'all just buy guns for the love of the game haha. I personally have mental blocks when dropping $1000+ on something I can't use after a few months to a year due to restless gun ban syndrome that the LPC has.
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u/truthdoctor bc Apr 14 '26
It matters since the confiscation will fail and they'll either have 1 million armed criminals on their hands or they'll be forced to grandfather the rifles. So you'll be able to buy one and keep it once all of us are grandfathered.
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u/Candid-Tomato2971 Apr 18 '26
Would be great if they give everyone a 12.X class so we can buy/sell with one another at the very least
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u/Defiant_Impact_1957 Apr 20 '26
no concessions. legalize all the guns for vetted gun owners. we're not irresponsible children. they want you to think that we can't be trusted with an ever increasing amount of styles and types of guns as if we're causing issues. we're not.
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u/Neat_Imagination2503 Apr 14 '26
They have a majority. Can make it law easy now they don’t even need the oic
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u/Throwawaymaybeokay Apr 14 '26
"Fool me once, shame on you. Feel me twice... It means you can't get fooled again"
Welcome back FAL. I'm ready to feel regret.
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u/Status_Ticket5044 Apr 14 '26
See me. Feel me. Touch me. Heal me, Brigade Firearms Makasi MK-15.
NVM. This thing is the absolute poster child for ban bait. Starting a pool on when the OIC drops on it. C'mon SCoC. Throw us a bone.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
They got their majority, they don't even need an OIC to ban it now.
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u/Water-Foul Apr 14 '26
So are we just heading for a future where the only people who can afford cool guns are people who have $3000 to spend on each one?
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u/canuck_jones Apr 14 '26
Yup. I say same about Rib-eyes in the grocery stores. Thanks Carney!!!! Lol
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u/diabeetussssss Apr 15 '26
It was always an expensive hobby. Now due to artificial scarcity, it’s a rich man’s expensive hobby
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u/OkBurner777 Apr 15 '26
Everyone being a doomer in here - “another rifle to be banned right after I buy it” - like you weren’t telling everyone to buy an SKS “just in case” since the OIC.
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u/China_bot42069 Apr 14 '26
MMIWG2SLGBTQQIA+ start you credit cards
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u/GFN_good_for_nothing Apr 14 '26
lol totally, I get it, but my buddy is simple and he doesn’t get it, could you explain it for him?(he’s so dumb lol)
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u/Stevko_1 Apr 14 '26
I get the feeling that the RCMP did this just to tease us.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
Or someone there has a wicked sense of humor and wants to piss off Natalie lol
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u/DwayneGretzky306 Apr 14 '26
Looks neat. I dont like the different colour fore end but it would be cool rifle it actually was non restricted and stayed that way. But no chance of that.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
There are matching black forends, MLOK forends, and quadrail forends options on the official website.
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u/GFN_good_for_nothing Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
I’m ready to be burned, can’t wait to make a safe queen out of her.
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u/tictac556 Apr 14 '26 edited Apr 14 '26
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u/Status_Ticket5044 Apr 14 '26
No. It'll just make my heart hurt and daddy will only take it away anyway even if.
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u/S-Archer Apr 14 '26
Can someone ELI5 why is this considered NR and not autobanned? It seems to fit the "looks scary" list they now call prohibited.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
It is proprietary enough to not become a variant of any firearm listed in the 1990s and 2020s OICs, and meets the definition of a non-restricted firearm.
It also predates C-21 by almost a year.
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u/Dickastigmatism Apr 14 '26
Because this meets all requirements to be NR under the Firearms Act. It's not a variant of a Prohib (kinda surprised they didn't decide it counts it a FAL or AR), and it's not full auto.
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u/S-Archer Apr 14 '26
I guess that's my confusion. FAL and AR are both banned. But the hybrid is fine. Just shows what a joke all of this is
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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Apr 14 '26
And how the heck is the R9 a variant of an AR180b yet this fusion is not? RCMP FRT lab lacks common sense. Anyways where do we buy it?
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u/Dickastigmatism Apr 14 '26
I guess it's different enough operationally, but yeah that's goofy when other guns are deemed variants in aesthetics alone and the manufacturer themselves mention the FAL's aestheitcs in their description.
The RCMP can always change their decision. They've done it before.
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u/escv_69420 Apr 14 '26
If they're $10k they're still getting sold out in seconds by non-complying rich guys.
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u/_Friendly_Fire_ My 4y/o brother is smarter than Trudeau. Apr 14 '26
At this point I have to wonder if it's just bait to get more people demoralized after a bunch of people buy it then they ban it.
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u/shamone94 Apr 15 '26
Do we know if any other Canadian dealers besides CRAFM ordered a batch of these?
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u/jwubadubdub Apr 15 '26
Dealer I spoke with was surprised to learn of it this morning, but excitedly informed me he'd be ordering a couple dozen. Sounds like there's an appetite
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u/lock11111 Apr 14 '26
I'll risk getting slapped with the long hard cock of the law again for a fal
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u/Blusk-49-123 Apr 14 '26
Utterly impossible this won't get OIC'd within a couple of months after they hit retail up here. It'll be a $1700-$2000+ for like two months of shooting then it'll be a safe queen.
Shame. It looks absolutely sick from the videos.
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u/CringelordCameron Apr 14 '26
There probably won't be another OIC until after the entire buyback debacle is over. There's a good chance they wont touch gun policy for a long time because they are currently getting absolutely no political benefit from it.
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u/Blusk-49-123 Apr 14 '26
I hope you're right. How much has the buyback disaster cost the nation? 2 billion? They could have saved a lot of lives with 2 billion dollars going into the right stuff like dealing with poverty, homelessness, mental health, etc. etc. Instead it's going to a crusade on a non-issue that most Canadians don't even think about, let alone are worried about.
Dumb question, but the anti-gun lobbyists can't be contributing that much to the LPC to make up for this, can they?
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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Apr 14 '26
Thats what i told myself and they FRT banned the thing. We’ve seen them revise previously NR FRT to prohibit as well. Would still buy it if i could…
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
The difference is, all FRT bans are done on the premise of "unnamed variants". For example, ATRS, Crypto, random Turkish bullpup, etc.
This one seems to fall under the same bin as the GSG-16, i.e. It's specifically NOT a variant.
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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Apr 14 '26
See the sterling r9. Although it being “Canadian made” it didn’t need an FRT until it got prohibited.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 14 '26
Which is another different scenario: previously unclassified firearms receiving their 1st FRT that is already prohib. That's why I left the R9 out of this, it's apples to oranges.
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u/buji8829 IBl Precision Apr 15 '26
Hmmm this just fuels my desire for us to sort out extensions in the shop!! AR barrels are looking good again!
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u/WillyBillBilson Apr 15 '26
Somebody at the RCMP is getting fired for this blunder LOL
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u/BrickLegal Apr 15 '26
Hope the RCMP just does a big Fuc* you and starts granting every semi that goes through with a NR FRT.
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u/Consistent_Talk_6122 Apr 15 '26
I’ll just quietly wait and see…just to have our hearts and wallets broken again.
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u/lunchbawkz Pineapple is the best pizza topping fight me Apr 15 '26
Don't hurt me like this again...
But if it comes I shall buy.
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u/UnderstandingSoft165 Apr 15 '26
They need to pull stock everywhere, hit up irunguns and just absolutely flood the market. Hell, a receiver build kit with all the proprietary parts would be bananas! Sell it NR, no 18.6” barrel sourcing. Let the Canadian manufacturers start churning those out, everyone who has 2 or 3 will just swap it over. People will be buying out of spite, fomo, and anyone who has a modern sport gun they miss shooting - especially with warmer weather rolling in
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u/plasticproducts Apr 15 '26
as a person who didnt get burnt on the Crypto, im going to risk being burnt on this one. Anyone able to PM where a fella could buy and NR version?
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u/Ustauk Apr 14 '26
Looks cool. Since it uses 1913, you could swap in the 1913 buffer tube adapter from a Sterling R9 or get a Magpul UCS as an adjustable length of pull folder with optional riser.
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u/midity Apr 15 '26
Take what we can get. But this in 7.62x39 would help me get rid of my stockpile lol
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 15 '26
They have a x39 version on their website but apparently not on the FRT (not declared by the importer) at the moment.
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u/Ninja_Gogen Apr 15 '26
Yeah, but for how long. Liberals have their majority and I bet all guns including hunting rifles will be banned before their term ends.
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u/escv_69420 Apr 15 '26
Now that it has an FRT, could one just order one from the manufacturer to IRUNGUNS?
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 Apr 15 '26
Yes, but the manufacturer currently only makes restricted (16.5") versions. It seems like the 18.5" NR one is exclusive for Canadian distributors.
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u/UnderstandingSoft165 Apr 15 '26
They need to pull stock everywhere, hit up irunguns and just absolutely flood the market. People will be buying out of spite, fomo, and anyone who has a modern sport gun they miss shooting - especially with warmer weather rolling in
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u/Ustauk Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26
Since this uses a standard AR barrel and barrel nut, you could drop in a 300 Blackout or 6 mm Max barrel for whitetail, right? Boondock Saints evaluation of 6 mm Max vs ARC makes it sound like Max may work with no bolt change: https://youtu.be/cvjDDaKD-R0?si=K0s1djYVKZEEAfPp . If the 7.62x39 mm version is covered by the same FRT entry, you could do a 6 mm ARC or Grendel barrel swap with that version.
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u/Afrocowboyi Apr 15 '26
too much doom, people need to party/have fun today cause tomorrow isn't guaranteed.
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u/LieAnxious7939 Apr 15 '26
Brigade Manufacturing lists AMCHAR USA as a distributor. AMCHAR Canada is a wholesaler that sells various brands to businesses across Canada. I've emailed them to see if they had any interest in bringing the rifles in.
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u/jwubadubdub Apr 15 '26
I spoke to a couple shops local to me; according to one that connected with Gravel, this information was a leak that isn't fully sorted yet.
They should have more information on pricing, timeline, etc, in a few more days.
One of the shops said he will be ordering a couple dozen, so hopefully there's plenty to go around. Happy hunting
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u/Unknownuser010203 Apr 15 '26
I was chatting with a representative from Gravel agency, the importer of the Makasi, and it looks like it'll be a few months until they get their hands on them to ship to dealers. I hope I get my hands on one before they sell out!
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u/LieAnxious7939 Apr 16 '26
Gravel has emailed business' and said they had wanted to wait till they had their first shipment before telling people about them but since everyone is talking about it they have started giving info. $2400 but like some of the other people have commented on here don't be surprised to see it at $2500 as they will almost definitely sell out quickly.
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u/gamercast1337 Apr 15 '26
The good news about my financial situation being so poor and in debt is that I couldnt afford to buy this, so when it gets switched to prohibited 5 months after being on market due to the RCMP getting its arm twisted by the feds, Im not out 3 bands
The previous ones that got done dirty like this last year, were they even on the gungrab website to get money for them? Or were they in some limbo since they werent the OIC banned ones?
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u/Infinite_Price_3550 Apr 15 '26
Crypto is not on the buyback list but the R9 Mk1 somehow is🤷🏻♂️
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u/guestpassonly Apr 14 '26
How many poeple got bit by buying a semi-auto rifle which got banned out of no where within months, if not weeks?
Who wants to try their luck again?
This manufacturer didn't even TRY to make a version like Alcor did, with wood and stock/etc to make it more "hunting-rifle-ish".
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u/Loud_Cap_4250 Apr 14 '26
It doesnt matter what they do, they want all guns doesn’t matter if it’s wood or looks like a hunting rifle
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u/Remarkable_Vanilla34 Apr 14 '26
I'm ready to get hurt once again.