Canadian Tire can be incredibly lax. I've had to tell employees to verify my PAL before selling me ammo. There's even one I argued with because he didn't want to check it. I just didn't want them to get in trouble. It was incredibly bizarre.
When I took my pal/rpal the instructor insisted we didn’t need a licence for ammo lol I’m too poor to buy in person I buy online when there’s a sale and they’ve always asked for my licence
i did this last week... bought some 22lr on the way to cash i was like "crap can i grab a coupe boxes of 9mm?" she walked be back and opened the case walked me to cash.... i asked if she needed my pal again shes like "naw.. im going for break"
Yeah i get that but wtf are they gonna cross reference it with? Lmfao its not like a gunn where the serial number has been logged and is easily tracked
"hey, I recognize that suspect, he was in the store last week and bought an airsoft gun, I should check the sales logs for his name and report him to the police"
It's basically Flock Cameras, but manual, and thus less billionairey
Please elaborate? I worked at a Canadian tire in Calgary and that was the exact process for bear spray. Unless they decide to start requiring a pal for airsoft, that would be the process for registering the bb gun to a person.
Interesting, considering it is controlled by the Canada Pest Control Act and has a federal waiver that health Canada considers mandatory.
"Bear repellents are registered under the Pest Control Products Act; it is illegal to use a pest control product without following label directions. Please complete the following information in order to comply with the Pest Control Products Act of Canada..."
Probably someone new who was well meaning but didn’t know better. I can’t even buy a wera wrench without it having to be removed from a locked cage and escorted to the cash register.
My local CT doesn't even record anything for real ammo. Visual pal check and that's it. For guns they go through the verification, but they follow the letter of the law and nothing more.
Keep in mind it is my understanding that canadian tire gun sales are separate from CT corporate, it's up to each individual store owner if and how they participate.
A few years ago one just outside Winnipeg wanted a second piece of government issued photo ID. He kept saying they needed valid ID and I kept explaining that my RPAL was valid ID. Finally he said we need a second piece due to too many fake PAL’s coming thru the store. That was a new one for me.
They still do it (at least in the CTC I was in, in London, Onterrible).
Having never purchased ammo there before, I was unaware that this was the way they recorded it.
When the person working there wanted my RPAL to hand write the info in a binder, that had been sitting on the shelf above the ammo display, completely unsecured and unattended, I opted to take my purchases elsewhere, that practiced better control over access to that info. Would it ever become a problem? Unlikely, but should that binder ever go missing, at least my info isn't in it.
The handful of times I have gone into Gobles I have felt like I've been interrupting something or I'm an inconvenience to whoever was working. Your mileage may vary, but that's just my experience.
Just buy from your local firearms retailer if you want an airgun. CT corporate policy is above and beyond whats needed. They recorded ammo before if was even required.
I'm gonna get downvoted to oblivion, but the reality is that a lot of shitty criminals who can't buy a real illegal handgun use an airsoft one because it looks so similar. There has to be some mechanism to discourage shit criminals from doing shit criminal things.
It's actually not the judge that is the problem. Correctional facilities are staffed with absolute lazy slobs and there is zero rehabilitation. It's literally like the movie Blow. Go in for something ridiculous like stealing groceries, come out with connections to buy handguns and get fronted kilos of Cocaine. It's a private criminal network inside while the guards watch YouTube and play on their phone
It most definitely is. Anyone of us is scared to go to jail because we'd get the book thrown at us. Meanwhile criminals get a pass. It's a serious issue.
Just so we're clear, your take is that people are scared to be criminals because the punishment is severe, but also the people who are not scared to be criminals are treated too lightly and should face more severe punishments.
Many criminals are always steps ahead of laws. Theyll just get somebody else to buy it for them like they do with straw buyers in the US for their actual firearms. And/or these will be passed around secondhand
Harsher penalties for repeat offenders would be where I would like to start. Third offense of theft, loose a digit. 4th offense loose 2 and keep increasing.
this is the shit that just makes crime worse dude, im not saying be all set him free but fuck me you genuinely think mutilating people for committing crimes regardless of reason is acceptable in society?
The ex convicts i used to work with would always say this: "dont do the crime if u cant do the time". Its easy to read the fact for Canada is that the penalties criminals face aren't strick enough in this country. Im personally a fan of creating VERY remote Labor camps.
as much as i wanna criticize “dont do the crime if you cant do the time” i feel like we wont really have a productive conversation if were so far apart as we seem to be so i think maybe agree to disagree on this one
Im just echoing what they said. Not a motto I'd obviously live by. But its certainly something they appearently did as they all served varying degrees of time.
Mad facts, worked the gun counter ar Cabelas for a year. Saw way more sketchy characters looking to do dangerous and/or illegal stuff with the BB Guns, knives, machetes, axes etc. Than real firearms.
Pretty sure this one's a case of survival of the fittest... I'd love to see footage of someone upping BB on a real criminal. Some problems solve themselves 😂😂
Why r we trying to prevent criminals from obtaining these ? They are literally one of the most harmless tools they could choose to use. What would you rather take to the chest ? A shot from a real gun? A 4 inch knife blade ? Or a conical pellet from a 500fps pellet gun ? These airguns are a bluff that at worst will take your eyesight or maybe severely damage your throat. Knives, bludgening devices and real guns will take your life.
A pretty convincing bluff that 99% of people will not challenge. Like I said, I don't know what the solution is, but as a responsible legal gun owner I understand that there will be inconveniences for the greater good.
But the fact remains thats its not generally lethal. Nobody's actually going to loose their life to these encounters unlike when a real weapon is used. Criminals resorting to using airsoft to commit crimes is an improvement to public safety.
I aint missing anything, our Law Enforcement is when they continously pursue the route of banning these devices while appearently being blind to the fact that its sucess will just force the criminals to once again pick up REAL weapons that ultimately leads to innocent life being lost.
CT I shop at only does the bare minimum visual PAL check, and verification when buying a firearm. They only keep records of the purchase for the minimum required time and delete the info. Only info the government gets is notified that you had a reference number. Valid for 3 months and you can buy 1 gun or 10. I bought three on one number 2 months apart. Owner is a big time gun guy and the gun counter guy is too.
And they keep this info on a flash drive only which is kept in the safe, no hard drives, not in the cloud. They take privacy and the rights we have left serious.
Shop elsewhere. Lots of places sell airguns and accessories. Canadian Tire is convenient for me but their security is occasionally stupid and fucking insulting. "Let me just carry this to the cashier for you...".
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u/DougMacRay617 Aug 04 '26
Recorded with what? An ID? Lmfao i understand the purpose but its pretty futile to record someones ID especially if they don't have a gun license,