r/canadaguns • u/ivanlarav • May 31 '26
Buy recommendations Renegade MKII
Considering purchasing this, any advice on the optics or the magazine?
MKII owners, can I use this for shots beyond 100m? Is the vortex optic reliable enough for that?
Is there anything else I should add to my cart?
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u/TheBulletBuddy May 31 '26
Ive heard very mixed info about how the mags run. Sounds like you need ton remove the bolt hold or something along those lines, worth doing a quick read on that.
Get the mlok version of that grip instead if the pictanny mounted version.
Good scope rings are a must, but consider an lpvo + cantilever mount. Its a very common set up on these, and on similar platforms. The Burris RT6 has done great for me.
My 12.5 is a laser out to 150-200 yards with a 1-6x lpvo so I'm sure yours will be just fine at 100. For me at the longer distances, the hard part is just seeing the target haha.
You'll quickly realize how short 100 yards is lol
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u/ReturnOk7510 May 31 '26
You'll quickly realize how short 100 yards is lol
When Trump got clipped in the ear by that kid and the conspiracy nuts were going on about what a long shot it was and how only a highly trained marksman could have missed by so little, and then I saw it was under 150 yards and was like wtf how did he miss such a close shot?
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u/TheBulletBuddy May 31 '26
agreed, 75 yards is my plinking distance with a tm22 and green dot lol
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u/syspak May 31 '26
How do you need the target and what you're hitting?
I struggle at 25/50 with my tm22 and 1x prism dot.
I put a 3x prism on it and it helps a little but I still have a hard time at 50.
I have a 2.5x15 on my 5.56 RAR and can barely see anything at 200. I have no idea where I'm hitting anything even at 100.
I really need to get a spotting scope.
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u/TheBulletBuddy May 31 '26
Im not shooting at 200 normally I should say.
100 yards with a 6x and 55gr .223/5.56 isn't bad at all on gongs, splatter targets etc. 150 it gets a bit trickier with the splatter targets. Still easy with the gongs. 200 on the gong is a fun challenge but on the normal paper target, I'm just doing my best haha. The 6x is weak at 200 for me.
The dot on the tm22 is just up to how well you can see haha.
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u/syspak May 31 '26
I do wear glasses for a stigmatism but my one eye has 20/20 and my other is very minimal but I still can't see a fuckin thing.
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u/rustyrobotguy May 31 '26
MKII owner here, yes you will need to remove bolt stop to use MRX mags. Or I guess you could shave the lips of the mags a lil, though that’s legally grey.
Regardless the last round hold open will not work with the MRX mags.
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u/ivanlarav Jun 09 '26
Here’s a pretty good tutorial on how to make everything work with these magazines. It’s a little bit of work, and you’ll have to replace the follower in the magazine, but it’s worth it if you care about having 20 rounds in the mag.
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u/KingHarber May 31 '26
Upgrade the optic to at least a crossfire or diamondback series if you're set on a Vortex optic. You're currently looking at an optic suitable for rimfire applications. Also consider going with an LPVO on a cantilever mount. Ensure you have the proper ring diameter with adequate mount height so that no part of the scope touches any part of the rifle aside from the mounting rings.
Whatever you do end up using for optics, invest in at least a two piece scope levelling kit from amazon, one attaches to the rifle receiver rail and another sits magnetized to the top turret of your optic.
Replace the buttstock with an MOE-SL from Magpul, along with the pistol grip to an MOE grip if you have big hands or an MIAD grip if average sized. The factory stock on the MRA is an el cheapo airsoft one that has bad fitment and wobble issues, and isnt very comfortable
Get a set of foldable iron sights from a non airsoft tier brand. FAB defense makes a good cheap pair of plastic spring loaded sights as a backup, and Magpul MBUS sights are the industry standard for durability and performance.
Get a sling. The MOE-SL stock has built in QD cups on either side and you can get M-lok compatible QD cup attachments for the front handguard from reputable brands for relatively cheap. The sling itself is personal preference, but I like the Gizmo Glider from Rebels Raiders and the Range Line Adjustable from Helikon Tex. Any sling that lets you adjust the length with a simple pull tab should work. Hunting style slings are good enough but won't let you hang the rifle across your front
Bipod can be forgone if you plan on shooting offhand or from a lead sled, but decent mlok or picatinny mount harris-knockoff bipods can be had for about 80 bucks
The MRX bison magazines are okay but like other people say you'll have to remove the bolt catch or grind down its length to ensure the magazines actually feed. If you don't, the back strap of the MRX mag rides too high and lifts the bolt catch when the mag is fully inserted. This prevents the bolt from going into battery.
In my experience the MRX mags can be hit or miss, seems to be down to the fitment of each individual magazine. Some work perfect, others refuse. Your mileage may vary, definitely pick up a couple LAR mags or Cross mags to make sure you have SOMETHING guarenteed to feed reliably while you tinker with the MRX mags
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u/Rewindonemoretime May 31 '26
Me, with two vortex copperheads reading the comments: 🥲
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u/Top_Importance6216 May 31 '26
liked the taste so much he went back for seconds smdh
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u/Rewindonemoretime May 31 '26
😂 they’re alright on my .22s, I wouldn’t expect much more out of them aside from that.
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u/Top_Importance6216 May 31 '26 edited May 31 '26
those mags are not plug and play, unless you feel like fucking with the bolt stop, make do with cross mags till the proprietary mags are released.
I dont mind the new factory stock, but I replaced it with a magpul CTR
I have the afg on my renegade too, its nice.
pick a better optic if anything, other than the rifle its the one thing you actually want to drop the cash for quality, and you need a cantilever mount.
MRA makes a very nice boomstick.
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u/BigoteMexicano Jun 01 '26
They take MRX Bison mags?
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u/Tookan_ Jun 01 '26
The Mk2s have magwells cut to accept them, mind you the bolt catch has to be removed in order to have it function without needing modifications done to the MRX magazines (although that doesn't really account for how shit those magazines somewhat are anyway).
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u/BlickyBurna May 31 '26
Id spend the extra money on better glass but thats personal preference, as the other commenter stated you’d need rings to mount whatever optics you go with.
I lean heavy towards the vortex venom series as you’ll be able to stretch past 100m and actually see what you’re hitting.
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u/Next-Swimming-4270 May 31 '26
you are missing rings and ammo/targets. Assuming you have the storage stuff sorted out already
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn May 31 '26
Get yourself the venom 1-6 with the sport cantilever mount instead or if thats out of budget like others have said get a crossfire hd. Theyre heaps better.
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u/ivanlarav Jun 01 '26
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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Jun 01 '26
Yes that one. When the other 556s were around we were selling basically one of those with every one at the old price then vortex came out with this package this year and Ive been stocking them in the shop with the express purpose of doing the same since theyre only 30 bucks more than the bare scope and the mount is 180 seperately.
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u/Murray3-Dvideos May 31 '26
Been patiently waiting for MRA to release their mags.... but i may give into BCL mags soon as well.
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u/Status_Ticket5044 Jun 01 '26 edited Jun 01 '26
Duramag LAR15 10 rnd mags are 100%. They're better than the plastic ProMag that came with it.
4-12x is great for 100 yds off a bench but see if you can stretch to a side focus or adjustable objective lens to combat parallax in that shorter than ideal (for neutral parallax) distance.
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u/HappyCan7250 Jun 05 '26
I basically won't buy scopes without side focus anymore.
Honestly super impressed by the Riton scopes that have been floating around lately on sale, for the price they're very good honestly. All my scopes are $200-$500, but the Riton Primal 4-16x44 is actually my favourite.
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u/2016YamR6 May 31 '26
That’s a crappy scope. At least get a crossfire hd for a few bucks more