r/canadaguns • u/Diligent_Studio6763 • May 11 '26
Misc What even causes this
Firing CCI Mini Mag out of a TM22. This was like the 4th round out of this 10 round magazine. I pulled the trigger it didn’t fire so I took the magazine out and this is what I saw. Went on to shoot another 100 ish rounds after this with no issues.
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u/No_Praline_1835 May 11 '26
my ex's skinny skeleton like figure that stole the mags ability to feed.
But this happened once to my sks. Was freaky and to this day have zero idea wtf happened xD
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u/Tarnsy May 18 '26
Had this happen in my SKS as well, I found that the magwell was not quite seated high enough and some positive pressure on the bottom of the magazine removed all of my feeding issues in general and I never saw this vertical round again. I've got the mag well permanently seated now so that it won't shift like that again. There's a little clip you need to make sure you are under when seating the mag well if you have a high Cal adapter. I bought mine already built and it wasn't under that clip so it was low by a couple millimeters.
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u/Diligent_Studio6763 May 11 '26
Yeah I sent this picture to some family members who have been shooting for decades and none of them had ever seen this before.
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u/JerkyMan360 May 11 '26
Jorked it a little too hard😔
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u/NEUMANN-METALWORKS Neumann Metalworks May 11 '26
in the shootig club. straight up "jorking it". and by "it", haha, well. let's justr say. My tm22
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u/FortyMaximus May 11 '26
That's also a possible cause functioning the bolt back on a lodged casing then bending it from forcing back the charging handle
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u/BigheadReddit May 11 '26
Round didn’t feed properly into the chamber before the action closed. Could’ve been a number of reasons including that there wasn’t enough magazine spring tension pushing up on the round, a piece of debris that forced the round out of alignment, or maybe the action didn’t cycle all the way to the rear before travelling forward again. Sometimes the latter happens if the gun is really fouled up with carbon / gunk or it may be caused by the ammo. Regardless, it seems to have worked fine afterwards so it’s not something critical. Sometimes the best semi-autos malfunctions when you shoot them enough. Most issues can be avoided by keeping them and the magazines clean, lubricated, and try and use decent ammo.
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u/outline8668 May 11 '26
Likely either an issue with the mag lips or the chamber feed ramp. 22's can be very sensitive because the small cartridges are not very forgiving and a small change can make a big difference.
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u/GreenMan165 May 11 '26
My 10/22 Archangel Nomad mags used to do this a fair bit, because of the wire controlling the feed creating drag before chambering.
So yeah, round didn't make it into the chamber before the bolt closed on it partway.
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u/Any_Fan_5320 May 11 '26
Failure to feed in ramp then bolt squeezes it. Not quite a stovepipe that happens when a empty casing gets jammed in an upright position
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u/FortyMaximus May 11 '26
Wt Heck, check the extractor claw but this is unusual I'm any models I shot .22. Bolt is hammering the casing so it must not be feeding properly
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u/thefreezy96 May 11 '26
My tm22LA does this all the time if I slam it closed...I even shot a couple without realizing and got a face full of hot powder, lol. Now I'm a lil more gentle when I shoot it and it hasn't happened since. Mind you- it happened almost exclusively using Aguila super extra
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u/Response-Cheap May 11 '26
Tm22 be chompin. Mine ate up all kinds of ammo during the break-in period. Runs like a clock now.
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u/Lotsavodka May 11 '26
Stove pipe jam? Happened to me a few times with an sks.
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u/FortyMaximus May 11 '26
Usually stovepipe occurs after the round has been fired. Don't get me started with my cousin squib loads all mashed up in the muzzle. If you ever hear pop and no bang don't just keep firing please
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u/newtdiego May 11 '26
Were you holding/pulling back on the magazine or putting pressure on it at all? This exact jam happened to my buddies tm22 when he was shooting off a bag with the mag pressed up against it
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u/Diligent_Studio6763 May 11 '26
No I was shooting from a standing position and have a foregrip I was holding.
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u/newtdiego May 11 '26
When in doubt blame the country of origin tbh I have no idea then
Maybe you pulled it into your shoulder too tight and the gun decided it hated you???
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u/Status_Ticket5044 May 11 '26
My Adler RF-224 does this consistently when I try to use genuine 10/22 mags. My first outing with it produced about a dozen wrecked cartridges before I proclaimed the experiment a failure.
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u/Spydude84 May 11 '26
I had this failure to feed problem several times with Aguila, but 0 with Federal. CCI is a good brand though, so I would likely suggest just bad luck on the previous round of ammo + bad gun + maybe not enough lube.
Fwiw I have a TM22 too and I love it but it's objectively a bad design.
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u/Diligent_Studio6763 May 11 '26
I mean yeah crappy gun for sure lol. I cleaned and lubed it out of the box before shooting it and have put maybe 600 ish rounds through it since. Going to clean it before taking it out again.
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u/Spydude84 May 11 '26
I shot mine twice and managed to strip the threads out of the handguard. It was also having fte every 3 rounds. Managed to fix both problems, but this should not be an issue.
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u/DougMacRay617 May 11 '26
The round jammed during feeding and your bolt smashy smashy