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Jul 10 '22
Just got my PAL/RPAL issued (originally mailed in March) and have been looking for Glocks - specifically a 9mm G19 gen. 4 or 5. I’m located in the Toronto area. Any tips on locating one as most, if not all, sites are sold out? Are stores still importing handguns with the introduction of Bill C-21?
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u/BillionNewt Jul 11 '22
Arms East has 17s in stock unless you're stuck on 19s. I don't think area matters unless you want to handle one (kind of difficult currently), all the online retailers ship.
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u/dutchrudder7 Jul 13 '22
FYI got the transfer notice for the Sig P320 I purchased May 28th today. Ontario and bought from local retailer.
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u/O8S1S Jul 14 '22
RPAL Timeline
Application Received: March 28th, 2022
CC Charged: June 22nd, 2022
Approved/Issued: July 12th, 2022
Good luck everyone!
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Jul 12 '22
If pistols are trigger-locked and placed in a padlocked Nanuk case which is then placed, say, under a bed - is this adequate for storage?
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u/cryrid Jul 12 '22
Here's the full text of the law. Emphasis mine.
6 An individual may store a restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device and stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) stored in a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in
(i) a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into, or
(ii) a vault, safe or room that has been specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms and that is kept securely locked.
A padlocked Nanuk case would be a container/receptacle that is securely locked and constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into. Since it is not a safe the firearm will also need to be rendered inoperable with a secure locking device (the trigger lock). You can store ammo inside the Nanuk case together with the firearm, since the case will be locked. As long as the firearm itself is unloaded. So you're good.
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u/KindaFatBatman Jul 12 '22
As long as it's fully unloaded and stored separately from ammunition you should be good
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u/Ernstig505 Jul 10 '22
Timeline for RPAL upgrade of existing PAL in Ontario
March 20th - Application posted to Miramichi by registered mail, marked delivered Mar 23
June 20th - CC charged
July 10th - Individual Web Services site shows license issued and restricted permissions on my profile.
I assume it was actually issued on Friday, but I had no internet at home or work to check it.
Now begins the shopping. My usual LGS is closed Sun/Mon, of course, but there is another spot nearby that sells but doesn't list their inventory online, and they are open today.
Otherwise Cabela's isn't listing any stock at all. Is Tenda reliable enough these days online, I remember reading some pretty mixed reviews back sometime ago (people's online orders getting sold from under them to walk in customers).
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Jul 14 '22
March 20th - Application posted to Miramichi by registered mail, marked delivered Mar 23
June 20th - CC charged
July 10th - Individual Web Services site shows license issued and restricted permissions on my profile.
what is happening in ontario lol, my application was received 25 feb and i'm still waiting and there are still people from before me
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u/Ernstig505 Jul 15 '22
No clue. Best of luck.
Are you upgrading a PAL to RPAL or are you starting fresh? I don't know if that makes a difference at all.
Picked out a handgun and now I'm in the 'waiting for transfer' pile with everybody else.
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Jul 15 '22
First time application but I guess it could be anything. I lived out of the country for the last few years so maybe that's it, I don't know
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u/Substantial-Cash-834 on Jul 10 '22 edited Jul 10 '22
Mailed application in unregistered mail March 31, received April 7. Just saw that my credit card was charged on Friday (July 8)! I’m in Ontario
Finally getting closer and looks like I may get my hands on a handgun or 2 after all!
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Jul 13 '22
RPAL Application received April 4th and my card was charged July 5th (live in BC). Status now says initial review was completed. What are the next steps and how long has it taken people from this point to get their card in their hands? Do I have a shot at buying a hand gun before the bill passes? Feel lucky I did my course when I did good luck to everyone.
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Jul 13 '22
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Jul 13 '22
LOL yeah right. My cc was charged May 15th and nothing past initial review yet.
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u/chief_robb Jul 13 '22
Nice! You should have it in hand middle of august. Mine was charged may 12, issued June 14, received card in mail July 8.
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u/Other-Negotiation328 Jul 13 '22
Ontario, restricted transfer initiated June 1st ref#5888xxx. We got to be getting close right? I can feel it in the cockles of my heart. Maybe even in the subcockles.
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u/BillionNewt Jul 13 '22
I liked this estimation method from CGN https://i.imgur.com/NWFbzxM.png
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u/improbablydrunknlw Anyone got Mike from Canmores number? Jul 13 '22
There's no way that's accurate is it?
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u/Other-Negotiation328 Jul 13 '22
Sadly, there's a bit of variables, but it lines up fairly well from what I have seen thus far.
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u/ElectronicSherbert80 Jul 13 '22
The CFO phone line is a joke. Wait on hold for 30 mins to an hour and then get cutoff every single time with either "sorry, system error. Call back later", or sometimes nothing at all, just cuts. Other times I don't even get the privilege of waiting on hold, I just get told "we're busy, call another day". WTF is going on over there, I can't spend my entire day waiting on hold just to get cutoff
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u/goomba008 Jul 13 '22
I feel your pain. Do you work on a computer, or somewhere you can leave your phone on speaker for a while? I made a post about a month ago about how to use an auto-dialer app for this purpose: https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/vb7rx7/weekly_politics_thread/iclyev2/?context=3
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Jul 14 '22
What are the odds youll be able to get handgun parts if the ban comes into effect? I'm thinking of getting an assembled frame now, and then the slide later to finish the gun, since the frame is the serialized part. Will it be impossible to get the slide assembly after the ban?
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u/french-illegalist Jul 15 '22
I wanna know about this as well will shooting clubs still be a thing or will parts and ammo be gone
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Jul 15 '22
I think the ammo will still be ok, since you can get some rifles in handgun calibers, but some of the more noticeable parts like slides I'm kinda worried about.
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Jul 15 '22
Unlimited budget. what semi auto black rifle are you buying right now?
Side note: Anyone have any input on the Italian surplus Beretta 92S?
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Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 15 '22
Best options are the APC line, Tavor SAR/X95/Tavor 7, Type 97/81, FAMAE, SL8/G36, Valmets if you can find them.
Oh and the coming Bren 2s.
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u/julian0021 Jul 11 '22
Pal course done in January 2022 Sent info in march RCMP received march 11th CC charged June 08 Current status as of today - completed the initial review for license. Hopefully soon fingers crossed
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u/chmilar Jul 15 '22
They received mine March 18th. My card was issued July 4th. Just waiting for the card now British Columbia
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u/soggycereal7 Jul 11 '22
Ordered June 3 out of AB to the Yukon. 5 ½ weeks later and the silence is deafening.
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u/GinnAdvent Jul 11 '22
I noticed the transfer is taking long now as we head into summer, probably less CFOs to handle the approval due to vacation?
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u/Brazilian_in_YYZ Jul 12 '22
For the ones that are waiting for their PAL. Got on the phone with RCMP they are processing Applications from the First week of April.
Good luck to you all.
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u/plughat Jul 13 '22
Ontario here. feb 18th rcv, may 10th CC charge, no update yet. Guess I should call then
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u/EngineNecessary8696 Jul 13 '22
I called the RCMP, they said my file is with CFO, then I contacted CFO, they said the file Is still at Miramichi, I just don’t know who to trust LOL. I have the same timeline BTW.
CFO also guaranteed that I will receive my license in two weeks, I don’t know how they can be so sure if they don’t have my file.
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u/investor-369 Jul 12 '22
Thanks for the info, you mean applications recieved from first week of April or applications appear online?
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u/Grimmerthan Jul 12 '22
Yesterday, I saw the CC charge that RCMP are now processing my application. This was exactly 3 months from when they received it to start of processing (04/11 to 07/11).
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u/lordoffire on Jul 15 '22
Not sure if this thread is the best place for this question: Has anyone gotten themselves prescription shooting glasses? Any places you'd recommend? Are they worth it (and any alternatives if they aren't)?
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u/knine71551 Jul 15 '22
Wear your normal glasses and buy over glasses shooting glasses
Or eventually be like me and get lasik 😂
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u/lordoffire on Jul 15 '22
buy over glasses shooting glasses
Do those interfere at all while shooting/moving or anything? Any that worked well for you?
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u/knine71551 Jul 15 '22
Hasn’t affected me besides when I wear a mask and also just be careful that as a result casings sometimes fall into goggles (very rare)
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u/cryrid Jul 15 '22
I spent a few hundred to get prescription inserts for a pair of Wiley X Saber Advanced. I forget what service I used, but I wouldn't recommend it.
I don't know if it was an issue with my particular prescription or what, but I find that I see worse with them on than I do my normal glasses. They're functional enough to walk around in, but won't let me get a good focus on a target down range (even just 15-20m). It's like there's a magic sweet spot in the lense that could possibly allow me to see normally, but the way the inserts sit in the frames itself will not allow them to sit up high enough for my eyes to reach it (especially with the strap option). Toss in the curvature of the Saber Lens itself (and any of the tinted options), and I find them completely useless at the range.
I get far more clarity using a $17~ pair of glasses from Canadian Tire that is designed to be worn over normal glasses. They're comfortable enough even with ear protection, and do not distort my vision at all.
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u/lordoffire on Jul 15 '22
Guess I'll save my money as I start up the hobby and go with your recommendation or similar! Thank you!
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u/ggdrguy Jul 15 '22
Either the calls are getting better or I was lucky as fuck. Called 3 times and was on hold for 35min on the third try and got through to someone. She was super nice and helpful btw. Went through the info for my private purchase and she told me about the other transfers I am waiting on, even transferred my to the provincial line to ask about one that shows approved but no email was sent out.
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u/GinnAdvent Jul 17 '22
So for some strange reason, some CFO might be working on weekend.
I place an order for a handgun on Thursday, it was recieved on Friday, and registered on Saturday (today). I just got my transfer notice.
The heck......
Bought from Ontario store, and inbound to BC.
The ones I got on June 3rd and beyond hasn't come in yet and this one literally jump the que and cleared in record time.
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u/GinnAdvent Jul 17 '22
Yeah, I figured that would be the case. This good news for some because they can help with some backlog.
I wonder out of 60k transfers, how many they have got through yet.
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u/Planters_Donuts Jul 11 '22
You can take the course and should either wY take the course. Then possibly try and courier your application onto the RCMP to fast track it. However most wait times for processing that are months. If you can get it approved before September 19th when the house starts sitting again then you might have mere days to buy something. The RCMP did say that any paperwork in before the bill is passed on transfers will be processed. So crap shoot but go for it if you can get into a class this week or so. Good luck. Let me know how it goes.
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u/connor2557 bc Jul 11 '22
my application has been in for a few months and it hasn't been processed yet, but you'll never know if you don't try.
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u/Davis1891 Jul 11 '22
I just bought a handgun from an online retailer and I'm confused about a couple things.
Do I need to call or email the CFO to get a transfer number or something? Or is that on the retailer? Is there anything I need to do on my end?
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u/knine71551 Jul 11 '22
If it’s online retailer then no they start it on their end and you wait. Depending on the province you’re in you may need a range membership but I assume you already got it sorted
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u/Davis1891 Jul 11 '22
Perfect, thanks. And yeah that parts all good
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u/knine71551 Jul 11 '22
After you get your final transfer approval email you should call the store to let them know just in case and ask if you need to forward them the email because sometimes the CFO has been only emailing the buyer side
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u/CashMoneyRecords Jul 11 '22
Bought a restricted this weekend…Just got my transfer reference number 596xxxx. How long you thing I’ll be waiting?
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u/ggdrguy Jul 11 '22
All depends what province you are in, and how the people in miramachi are feeling since they don’t seem to be following exact order as they were bought
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u/ggghosted Jul 12 '22
I just recieved my Green Restricted Paper saying my 9mm was approved for transfer, but have not gotten an email from the shop who sold it to me or anything. Do I just wait? Don’t want to call in, if possible. Thanks! Btw, I’m in Ontario
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u/soggycereal7 Jul 12 '22
Newbie here as well, but I've heard that sometimes the CFO drops the ball on sending it to the seller, so given all the craziness and delays you'd better just phone them to be sure.
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u/mrbrownthunder Jul 12 '22
Did you get it via email or in the mail? I’m still waiting for my transfer to be approved as well but was thinking they’d send me an email.
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u/ggghosted Jul 12 '22
I was thinking I’d get an email too, like I did PRE-C21, but I got it in the mail first
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u/mrbrownthunder Jul 12 '22
Thanks for confirming… when did you make the purchase? How long did it take for you to receive your transfer? I’m in ON too
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u/ggghosted Jul 12 '22
This is weird… July 4th, my first Pistol however was a Canik. after the announcement bought another Canik and a Glock.. I received that paper you keep with your R-guns twice for my first Canik.. I think the CFO is in shambles currently.
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Jul 13 '22
Current BC timeline:
App received Feb 21, CC charged May 11 and now PAL issued today July 13.
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Jul 14 '22 edited Jul 14 '22
Ontario timeline
25 Feb application received, 19/20 May money taken from account and initial review done, nothing since.
edit: just got off the phone with them and application is at chief firearms office, which is the same update from when I called a month ago
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Jul 14 '22
feb 24 they received mine and may 15 cc charged...at least someone else is in the same boat
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u/salazar_0333 on/qc Jul 14 '22
yeah, i'm confused how there are people who had their applications in after us but they already have their license? and there is one poor guy who's still waiting since feb 2021.
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Jul 14 '22
Maybe 1 in 10 get a more detailed search? I don’t know man it seems ridiculous at this point like I did my course in early December and it’s mid July now lmao
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u/karan405 Jul 15 '22
Good evening my friends. I have heard some bad news about my health and I am putting my ducks in a row. I do not know and have searched but couldn't find information on how to safely sell my rifles. Please can you help me with some information on that?
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u/Other-Negotiation328 Jul 15 '22
I'm sorry to hear this. I know a lot of local shops will buy used firearms, or if you contact the police they will come pick them up and destroy them for you. However I strongly urge you not to do the latter, hell if you're in SE Ontario DM me and I can refer you to an auctioneer, or many great gun shops or local buyers who are all licensed and on the up and up.
Either way, I wish the best for you and your family in spite of such lousy news.
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u/karan405 Jul 15 '22
Thank you... I am in the Greater Vancouver, BC area and RCMP won't be touching any of my babies... I am calling my local shop...
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u/throwa37 Jul 15 '22
I have heard some bad news about my health
I'm sorry to hear that.
couldn't find information on how to safely sell my rifles
What specifically are you unclear on? You can (and in fact now legally must) verify a potential buyer's information through the RCMP web portal, so you'll know that they're legit. If you'd rather skip that hassle, you can just take your guns down to your local gun store, or Cabela's, and sell them to the store on the spot. You won't get as much for them, since the store will want to maintain a good margin, but it's a lot simpler than finding a private buyer and jumping through the hoops of verifying their PAL and meeting up/shipping the gun.
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u/karan405 Jul 15 '22
Thank you... I dont have much time left and I don't want my family to get into any trouble after... I will call my local gun store...
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 15 '22
Your executor can take legal possession and sell the guns. Sorry.
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u/Shorinji23 Jul 15 '22
Anyone happen to come across any S&W 686s (or any other decent 6 inch .357) in stock?
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u/Rocifer_ Jul 15 '22
Ontario timeline Received rcmp mar 30 CC charged June 24 Faxed in course results Pal, Rpal, June 27 July 15 issued, now waiting for mail
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u/goomba008 Jul 15 '22 edited Jul 15 '22
I got the registration for a handgun I bought but I still haven't got the transfer notice! Can I still go pick up the gun?!
Update: The answer was no. Seller called the CFO, there was a fuckup, they sent the transfer notice by email. They said that you still need the notice to pick up the weapon from the seller's location. Still, I wonder if I could just have gotten an ATT.
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u/cryrid Jul 15 '22
If it was your first restricted, then you'll need the notice to take it home, where you'll have to wait for an updated RPAL card to arrive.
If it wasn't your first restricted transfer, then your ATT Conditions Slip should already list the condition to transport newly acquired restricted firearms home (and since you have the reg certificate for it, there should be nothing legally stopping you from transporting it home).
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u/Ill-Journalist4114 Jul 15 '22
Card printer? Has anyone heard that the card printer is down? My license has only been issued for a week, I’m not panicking yet. I just remember reading that a couple times.. Anyone even know what I’m talking about? Lol
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Jul 15 '22
tried to call rcmp today and was on hold for 45 mins and then the call just cut out....ugh
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Jul 10 '22
For people who got their CC charged in ON, how long until issued, assuming no issues?
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Jul 10 '22
Anyone having a delay in receiving their ATT And registration papers after the transfer?
I got the transfer approval email a week ago but apparently I’m waiting for papers in the mail now that I can’t bring my guns anywhere without? How long does this usually take?
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u/pats_28 Jul 11 '22
Fingers crossed this is the week the June 3 transfers get approved
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u/Iloveredditheart333 Jul 11 '22
I sincerely doubt it considering they have well over 20,000 or so to go at minimum and they arent that big of an office.
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u/TechnologyReady Radical Centrist Jul 11 '22
Seems they're processing about 400 per day. That's about 1 per minute if there's only one person doing it. Which seems possible. If this were a data entry job at a private company, you better believe they would have performance standards like that.
Curious to know how many civil servants are actually working on these.
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u/CringelordCameron Jul 11 '22
My June 1 transfer still hasn't been approved and I heard that they're still working through May 31 so it might still be a while
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u/Cosmic_Tigers Jul 11 '22 edited Jul 11 '22
Anyone know what to do for the new non restricted private sale process? I’m looking at buying/selling a non restricted in the future but not sure what exactly I have to do now. Something about contacting rcmp for a reference number?
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u/After-Strategy1933 Jul 11 '22
Best 5.56 NR Rifle
Hello all
Im looking to sell my MCR and upgrade to a higher quality 5.56 NR rifle to have conceivably for the rest of my life and to pass down to my son. Im currently looking at the Bren 2 or ACR. What are your suggestions as to what the best option is for Canadians at the moment is and why? (doesn’t have to be Bren 2 or ACR)
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Jul 11 '22
I had the ACR dmr for about a year fantastic rifle but way too heavy with stock barrel so if you plan on upgrading it its great but honestly will probably wind up spending as much as just getting a bren
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u/Brazilian_in_YYZ Jul 11 '22
Ontario Timelines for Pall
Paper application Delivered in APR 29th It’s 72 days with no answer. No charge on the card. No e-mail or letter.
Trying to phone today- 1800 731-4000 ext 1040 The line drops after waiting a couple of minutes.
Please let me know your timeline or if you have any method of communication that works.
Thanks!
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Jul 11 '22
they received mine feb 24 and cc was charged may 15. still showing on initial review in the portal. haven't tried calling.
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u/StevieWonderCanSee1 Jul 11 '22
From AB
Sent my application on March 27th and my credit card was charged at the end of June. No e-mail, letter, call or any communication between the moment when I sent it and the moment when my credit card was charged.
You can expect to see a charge on your credit card by the end of the month. If not, then I’d try to give them a call.
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u/Consistent-Bar1063 Jul 11 '22
Recently it was about 3 months from when they receive it until your CC is charged and your status information appears online. So you probably have another couple of weeks of waiting unfortunately. Just monitor your CC.
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u/Brazilian_in_YYZ Jul 11 '22
Thanks! I appreciate you guys.
This is a really crap experience. This should be 100% digital with an option of paper.
Crazy how gov threat us. We are 100% in the 90’s for this process.
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u/connor2557 bc Jul 11 '22
I sent mine off APR 26, been 75 days, I also have not gotten charged or anything for mine, I'm in bc. so I don't think it's anything out of sorts, I've been seeing alot of guys saying there recent application was 3months till their cc gets charged
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u/GinnAdvent Jul 11 '22
It will take a while, post pandemic process time has been 3 months for wait and 1 month after its process. May take even longer now since everyone the has been getting longer it seems.
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u/Outrageous_Ad521 Jul 11 '22
Alberta application here. Sent off my PAL application April 7th. No credit card charge & haven’t heard anything yet.
I saw last week some guys on here saying they sent there application the first couple days of the month and there credit card just got charged last week.
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u/Rab1dus Jul 11 '22
Is it impossible to do a transfer now? I tried multiple times on Friday just to eventually get "we're having a system problem, try again later" and then it never even answered after that.
Trying again today, on hold for 20 mins then get the "we're having a system problem.." message again. Has anyone actually got through to CFP recently?
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 11 '22
No, you can still transfer restricted firearms.
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u/Rab1dus Jul 11 '22
How do you actually get hold of someone to initiate the transfer? After 20 mins or so, it says they have system problems and then when you call in, it doesn't even put you on hold for the rest of the day. Is there another way to do it?
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u/cheezoos Jul 11 '22
In BC - Bought P320 Restricted on June 29.
Received Application Number - Do I call in or just continue to wait?
Anyone have approval times for BC?
Thanks for Advice!
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 11 '22
Store: just wait.
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u/cheezoos Jul 11 '22
Hi Beretta
Yeah store - Victory Ridge Sports
Will continue to wait. First restricted so excited to get lol
I’ll continue to wait.
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 11 '22
Call your CFO, then your MP and/or ombudsman.
Best of luck, I am about five weeks into my wait in Ontario.
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Jul 11 '22
I don't understand gunpost's new auction system.
It says my account isn't eligible to apply for an auction, and now I can't even message the seller of an auction anymore. That means I can't even purchase this at all?
Wtf is this
Edit: and gunpost charge 3% for advertising fee? LOL WHAT IS GOING ON
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u/Afrozendouche Jul 12 '22 edited Jul 12 '22
*IIRC* You need a minimum of 5 ratings to act as a bidder, and 10 ratings to act as a seller. This is going off memory of the email they sent me.
They also warned not to try to spoof those ratings, as they apparently ban people for it plenty.
Edit: Just re-read the email and it's:
Bidder:
Minimum 3 month old account, with at least three 5-star ratings.Seller:
Minimum 6 month old account, with at least ten 5-star ratings.2
Jul 12 '22
There's a local seller that has exactly what I want, and not only can I not make a bid, I can't even message the guy.
This is serious BS. What a scam.
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Jul 11 '22
For the PAL application can I check that I intend to own non-restricted and restricted guns in the next 5 years even if I am only currently applying for a PAL?
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u/sysexecv Jul 11 '22
Can anyone suggest a good time / way to call the CFO? Does anyone know their hours? Thanks in advance!
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u/XxSpruce_MoosexX Jul 11 '22
I’ve emailed them a couple times and never heard back. Coming up to 7 months now for a basic PAL renewal. RCMP says it’s sitting with the CFO
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Jul 11 '22
What CFO? Alberta it seems first think in the morning or 12:30. Don't bother calling after 11:00am as the system seems to hang up on you at 11:45.
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u/ThatAznGunGuy Jul 12 '22
Does anybody have an update on restricted transfer times in alberta? I've been waiting for about 5 weeks now and since this is my first restricted don't know if I should call the CFO.
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u/HashinAround Jul 12 '22
So I passed my CFSC in Ontario on may 28th & still haven't received my info back yet. Its been about the 6 weeks stated & I'm wondering if I should maybe call someone to check in on it? I'd love to hear what you think & how long I should expect to wait for this portion of the process to finish, Thanks in advance.
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Jul 12 '22
took 8 weeks for me to get mine, also ontario
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u/HashinAround Jul 12 '22
Kk nice to know, I gave a call today & left a msg & should hear back within 24 hours (I wont cross my fingers) However the lady that I spoke to from the cfo line said that things are behind by about 3 months so when I do send it all in to expect a longer wait time. Hope all this info combined helps someone & I will update with my results of the phone call once received.
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u/KindaFatBatman Jul 12 '22
Anyone have experience with the IWI tavor X95? Is it worth the $2800 I'm seeing it listed as?
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Jul 12 '22
great rifle eats everything. Minute of man accuracy at 100m, you'll hit the target but spread will be pretty massive. If you are expecting precision, look for another rifle.
Rifle is 10/10 excluding the accuracy department which is a 5/10, 3-6MOA depending on what type of ammo and weight.
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u/soggycereal7 Jul 12 '22
Does anybody know if (when) C-21 comes into effect, whether or not pending transfers will be allowed to continue being processed and approved, and only new transfers will be "freezed" (ie transfers initiated henceforth from the date that the bill is enacted into law).
OR if there will be a hard seize and all pending transfers will be nullified and stores across Canada will have to pay thousands in returns/refunds, not to mention the utter disappointment of tens of thousands of new and existing firearms owners and enthusiasts.
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u/giovannigionta Jul 12 '22
I don’t think any sources have confirmed how it will play out exactly. I am assuming all transfers that were initiated prior to the law will be honoured as they did when they banned AR-15s. You also need to think of the logistical nightmare it would cause stores and people if they didn’t. Especially since many stores have since then purchased and sold additional handguns. They probably also paid suppliers what they owed on the previous handguns and took on more stock as well. This would probably cause many of those stores to go under. I doubt they will freeze pending transfers but then again you never know…
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u/Cold_Juggernaut_5676 Jul 13 '22
One of the questions on the PAL application is ever having a suicide attempt or being treated for depression. 16 years ago I had a suicide attempt and was apprehended by the police and taken to the hospital. I was hospitalized for about a week and have been treated for depression ever since with medication. Other than a couple minor relapses with the depression over the years (no other suicide attempts or anything if the sort) my depression has been well managed. Obviously I need to disclose this and need to disclose the fact that I am still on medication for depression so how will this effect my application? It’s been 16 years so I hope that plays into it that it’s been so long ago. Will this possibly be grounds for denying my application?
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u/wert989 Jul 13 '22
From what I gathered from the past threads is that if you're upfront about it, it most likely won't prevent you from getting your license.
That said it may slow down your application. I had to check off the same boxes for depression and stuff I went through >10 years ago too and so far I've been waiting closer to 8 months compared to some of the others who sent their applications around the same time, who had to wait around 5-6 months roughly.
It's also recommended that 1. You write a letter yourself to explain the situation and 2. you talk to one of the medical professionals you've worked with to get their opinion and hopefully get them to write you a letter, confirming that your past history has been dealt with and that they don't see a reason why you shouldn't get a firearm license. I've read that it prevents them from having to contact you themselves to get the information later on which would slow down the process even more.
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u/Cold_Juggernaut_5676 Jul 13 '22
Okay thanks for the reply, I was already planning on writing a letter myself but never thought about getting my doc to write one. That’s what I’ll do. Thanks.
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u/Astro_- bc Jul 13 '22
Just got my new firearms license in the mail with the .0002 at the end of it with restricted conditions attached to it. if I had already ordered handguns online with the old license (.0001) would those transfers still go through? would there be a delay for processing my new handguns? is my old rpal still considered valid? Thanks!
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 13 '22 edited Jul 13 '22
Yes transfer will be fine.
Did you read the instructions that came with the new licence? You need to cut out a section and carry it.
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u/goomba008 Jul 13 '22
TIL that's what the .0002 means at the end of the PAL#. Thanks!
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Jul 13 '22
The ".0002" just is a serialized number that increments each time they print you a new card. When you buy your first restricted and they print a new card with the Transportation Condition, it will go up. When you renew and they print you a new card, it will go up.
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Jul 13 '22
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 13 '22
*restricted and non-restricted (but don't bother mentioning NR, it's included)
No range membership required, so online input your closest or joining X club
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 13 '22
Also if you cite collector they will ask for a short essay on your collection and how the guns are significant to you.
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u/voodoopriest Jul 14 '22
You could always join Silvercore. It is $49 a year and they let you join from anywhere in Canada (Though they are located in BC).
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u/Kanobii Jul 14 '22
In Ontario you don't need a club membership to own restricted guns from a store. I assume it's the same for private sales as well.
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u/giovannigionta Jul 13 '22
Any buyers in Quebec received a transfer recently? If so, can you please provide the first 4 digits of your transfer number and if it was a private or business sale. Thanks !
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u/sysexecv Jul 14 '22
Finally got my PAL number from RCMP. Anyone seen a P320 / Colt Python available anywhere recently?🥹
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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Jul 14 '22
Select Shooting Supplies has an Anaconda, King Cobra, and a Python. Looks like someone selling a collection. Also a couple of nice S&W.
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u/throwa37 Jul 14 '22 edited Jul 15 '22
My RPAL expires in August, and I submitted my online renewal in May. I'm concerned that since the CFP is swamped with handgun transfers, they won't finish processing my license renewal before expiry and the transfers I have in the queue will be terminated when my license becomes invalid. I know we have a grace period for the guns we already own, for exactly this situation, but I don't know what they do with pending transfers. I'm going to try calling them when the date gets closer if the renewal still isn't done, but I might not even be able to get through with the call volume.
Anybody been in this situation?
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u/Fatal-Light Jul 14 '22
Best black rifle .308 or similar
I have a ws-mcr in 5.56 and ive been enjoying it for a while now and was looking to get it a big brother, semi auto black rifle in .308, or another caliber with similar ballistics to those and aswell if the parts are out there to build a new upper for my mcr to be in 6.5 Grendel would be nice too. I'm looking to take the 6.5 deer hunting and the .308 elk hunting. TIA!
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u/Fatal-Light Jul 14 '22
I should also mention I tried to look at the "cool, weird black guns" link in the faq section multiple times on multiple devices but it would not load.
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u/Jester39 Jul 15 '22
Anyone know what the timeline is for restricted transfer for a first time owner in BC? My transfer request was submitted on June 29th (#5955XXX). Sorry if this has been asked before but I could only find answers for Ontario in this thread. Thanks in advance.
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u/ggdrguy Jul 15 '22
They aren’t going in order so I don’t know if it matters that the number is. I had one in sk approx 1500 higher in number approved June 29 and still nothing on the “lower” reference number one.
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Jul 15 '22
Probably a question for the body armour subreddit, but is Ai Tactical Solutions reliable? They have a carrier and 2 ceramic level 4 plates going for $275, but that seems terrifyingly inexpensive
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u/wlit1007 Jul 15 '22
Application was received Febuary 17th and cc charged may 9th. Called the RCMP today and said it was recently sent off to the CFO. Anyone know how long that part could take and if I should call them ? I'm in Alberta.. Thanks in advance.
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u/datPMF1 Jul 15 '22
I did my renewal December 17th, payment received same day and still no approval message on RCMP website. CFO has had my application for the last 3.5 months.
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Jul 15 '22
Bought a sig320 on June 20th and got my reference number from Ronin sports yesterday 😹💥🔥
Let’s see how long the transfer takes
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Jul 16 '22
Has anyone used a Visa Debit card successfully in PAL application? Or are they not permitted? Thanks in advance for any feedback.
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Jul 16 '22
Is there some kind of cheat sheet for where one can and can’t discharge non-restricted firearms, at least related to public land? New to firearms and want a place to practice/plink. Not many options for ranges or friends with land within a reasonable distance. Tried searching on Google and digging through my PAL course handbook but couldn’t find anything really clear. Any direction appreciated.
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Jul 16 '22
Get the ihunter app, pay for the subscription. Shows all crown land, reverse land private land ext.
If you can hunt there you can shoot there, safely of course.
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Jul 17 '22
I found out I need to move in 10 days and have restricted firearms. How screwed am I for getting an ATT since the CFO probably can't be reached and is understaffed? What do?
How long has it taken others to reach the Ontario CFO via phone? Is it even possible? Do I need to drive to Orillia this week?
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u/ultra_bright Jul 11 '22
Just a quick question for the people in Ontario with restricteds already, did your first transfer take any longer than every transfer after it?
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u/knine71551 Jul 11 '22
No my 2nd one took longer than the first due to the level of demand
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Jul 11 '22
Your Transfer is slow because there have been an unprecedented number of transfers initiated since June 1st.
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u/Kurumi_Shadowfall Jul 15 '22
How long does it usually take for your application to be viewable online? The RCMP received my application in the mail over a month ago at this point
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u/chmilar Jul 15 '22
They got mine March 18th. I got issued July 4th. Still waiting for my card though
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u/investor-369 Jul 16 '22
Hi everyone Just curious if anyone tried to buy a restricted without the RPAL in hand but have the RPAL #? i was recently approved and it'll take about 3 weeks to get the card so im trying to speed it up before the freeze.
Can I buy 2 or more restricted at the same time as theyre my first, would that be a problem to register 2 at the same time? Cause i heard the first restricted they will send me another card. Thankd
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u/ggdrguy Jul 16 '22
I have never not had a retailer require a picture for a restricted. Private, I’m not sure, as long as you have the number and expiry date maybe…?
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u/investor-369 Jul 17 '22
When I tried online, they didnt ask me to upload a photo, just # and expiry date
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u/chief_robb Jul 17 '22
If it’s from a store, ask them if you can put it on layaway until your rpal shows up. I did that for my trap gun while waiting for my pal. Just paid 50% down and the remaining when I had my pal in hand.
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u/investor-369 Jul 17 '22
Thanks but a layaway wont speed up the process I guess but good idea, at least I can hold the one I like.
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u/Ill-Journalist4114 Jul 10 '22
Fresh RPAL timeline
Course Feb 11-13
Results received and mailed out March 1st
Appeared on RCMP website mid June, but said received March 23
Issued July 8th
..I appreciated reading other timelines because the long wait would have made me think something was going wrong.. Gotta pay it forward