r/canadaguns • u/AHangryBeaver • 6d ago
Shitpost / Memes Convincing the boss
I know there’s a lot of guys on here who say “Buy once/cry once or who buy it and sneak it into the safe but let she realistic…
How do you convince the wife, between mortgage, bills, renovations, etc. etc. to not lose her absolute mind when you want to drop $1000+ on a new firearm?
I’m trying to have a happy marriage here folks. Give me your tips/strategies
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u/Iokua_CDN 6d ago
Step 1. Be financially secure. If you are risking your mortgage payment or rent or car payment for this gun, your are doing it wrong.
Step 2. Space them out. Let's say you buy 1 gun a year, that's a far far easier pill to swallow than buying multiple guns all the time.
Step 3, make it fair. You spend 1k? She spends 1k. Easier with a wife who likes shopping, or has expensive hobbies (you ever look at the cost of good yarn??? It's wild!) Basically if you both spend the same on fun, she can't complain.
Step 4. Control other hobbies. If you are spending tons of money on cars and games and other hobbies, she is going to be less receptive. Instead focus on the guns. Instead of presents, get cash to spend on guns. Save birthdays and Christmases and extra spending cash until you can buy one.
Step 5. Look for a good sale. Wait for a great sale. With all the crazy gun prices, take the time to find a good price. I've saved hundreds by just waiting. Search websites, watch for sales, look used! Getting a 1k gun for 800 bucks is 200 less dollars you have to justify to the Mrs
Step 6. Be aware and help her be aware that your guns do have resale and if things go south, they are worth money. Something no one wants to happen, but remember that your guns likely do hold a fare amount of value. Far far more than MANY Other hobbies. Collecting guns is one of the few hobbies you can sell your stuff and maybe even make money, but at least keep 90% of it. Think of everyone with an old SKS now worth 800 bucks. The old 22 I bought a decade ago for 200 now seems to go for 400 bucks. So be aware, in an emergency, your hobby can be turned into money. This last one hit home having my dad explain how much he had spent on a truck restoration that he will never be able to make back by selling it. Meanwhile my gun collection could easily break even for what I paid, considering how many guns have gone up in price, and how many I bought on sale.
These are all things I do with my wife. It's kept the peace. I don't have a hundred guns, but I have useful and fun guns and a decent number that slowly grows over the years. And a happy wife, that's the most important part.
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u/LongRoadNorth 6d ago
Resale is a big thing I didn't realize even with her stuff. We all judge women with designer bags but damn some of those things really hold value.
Just like my n shotguns do
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u/AHangryBeaver 6d ago
I just bought her a Louis Vuitton for our anniversary so hoping for some brownie points lol
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u/shadowshooter9 bc 6d ago
Earn enough so she can't say anything 🤑
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u/Jimbo_Slice1919 6d ago
In this economy? I make substantial more then I did 10 years ago but feel I have to stretch a dollar further then ever!
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u/burgers1919 6d ago
Feel for you man.. it sucks when the government takes over half of every dollar I make to buy themselves more votes..
It is messed up when I realize I am working twice as hard as I should have to to have the life I do...
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u/irrelevant_dogma 6d ago
The top tax bracket is 48% they cant take more than half
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u/Saucy__Intruder 6d ago
Plus sales tax, property tax, capital gains tax, carbon tax... Gets over 50% pretty quick
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u/burgers1919 6d ago
Sales tax, property tax, does you don't have to pay these?
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u/irrelevant_dogma 6d ago
Ya go do the math, pretty sure you wouldn't be exceeding 50% unless you're on a crazy buying spree. Not defending the govt or canada, I like neither, just defending maths
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u/burgers1919 6d ago
13% sales tax where I am at
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u/shadowshooter9 bc 6d ago
Side hustle ways where you aren't just trading time for wages.
I'm personally earning 10-20x my old engineering salary after I went into business for my self. Hell even in this shitty economy I'm already 18x my old salary
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u/julienjj 6d ago
What’s your side hustle ? Consultation ?
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u/shadowshooter9 bc 6d ago
Buy and Sell things
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u/Jimbo_Slice1919 6d ago
So drugs, all I need to do to increase my salary 18x is sell lots of cocaine. Got it!
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u/shadowshooter9 bc 6d ago
Taylor Swift tickets work too or eagles or too late now but FIFA tickets too
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u/AHangryBeaver 6d ago
I mean I’m a construction worker so I’ve done a ton of OT but I bought a house last year so all that OT goes to emergency fund and house Renos.
Debt free besides the mortgage. Child free. Excellent credit and healthy savings and investments. There’s just always something “more” important than a hobby purchase
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u/shadowshooter9 bc 6d ago
Priorities right?
It's one of those things what's your priority?
I personally work hard AF during the week and I love guns, and moved to Florida for my hobbies and ability to aquire more and compete year long.
2 years later I'm at like 30 suppressors, 20 rifles, 14 handguns and fkload of night vision devices.
Other hobbies go hard too, and best part is my housing costs have 1/4'd compared to Vancouver
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u/AHangryBeaver 6d ago
Oh yea I’m originally from Vancouver and although I miss the crown land to go shooting, I moved to Ontario and it gave me financial “freedom”.
I have 3 guns still out west so I’m not looking for much. Going to save up for an Sks and a good ole lever action like a pre-64 30-30 or .32 special.
My dad has 30+ guns so in terms of inheritance I’ll get my hands on a few when he passes
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u/newtoabunchofstuff 6d ago
Man... I miss the days when saving up for an SKS meant collecting loose change out of your couch for a few weeks and paying the balance with a toonie.
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u/boognight220 6d ago
Easy, just mAkE mOrE mOnEy 🤪
Over half of Canadians live paycheck to paycheck...
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u/newtoabunchofstuff 6d ago
Might I suggest you discuss your intent to purchase said firearm and create a separate savings account for it? This way she knows you have a separate budget and are not spending what is being saved up for a rainy day or budgeted for mortgage payments.
Set up a recurring savings thing in your bank app that does towards a gic or something that has favourable interest rates.
Also, see what kind of points your credit card collects and see if any of it can be redeemed towards gift cards. I've bought a bunch of stuff from Bass Pro before using gift cards redeemed from Scene points.
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u/mischling2543 6d ago
A Triangle credit card can accumulate Canadian Tire money really fast if you're using the offer system in the app, and lots of Canadian Tires still sell guns. Wait until a 20% back day and you get 20% of that CT money back from the gun purchase too.
Just bought a new shotgun by doing this.
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u/567432Gains 6d ago
I utilize this method often. I’m a seasoned credit card churner and the triangle program is one of the best iv ever come across
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u/burgers1919 6d ago
I am lucky I found such a unicorn woman that she is not bothered by me spending money or saving for hobbies. But I recognize she is like 1/40 million.
I am actually curious do you guys find your wives give you a hard time about spending money on your interests or do they not care?
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u/Ev_antics 6d ago
I have my hobbies, she has hers. I never question the cost of hers, but she'll roll her eyes if gun shape boxes arrives. And question if I really needed another one.
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u/SilenceOfTheBoreal 6d ago
We each have a bank account we transfer equal amounts of fun money too each month. We control them independently as our own "judgementless spending" accounts. If I want to spend $1000+ on a firearm, I just save up a few months of fun money and then pull the trigger (pun intended).
We do everything jointly but feel we should still retain some autonomy to do whatever we want with our fun money without feeling like the other person might audit them. Just one rule: no debt allowed.
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u/Iokua_CDN 6d ago
This is the way
No debt for guns and equal spending cash.
If she wants to spend her 1k on Starbucks coffees and a few medium sized purchases, power to her. If I want to make my own cheap tea and spend all my gun money on a gun, power to me
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u/Thespazzywhitebelt 6d ago
My wife and i pay our joint bills, after that we spend whatever we want as long as we dont rely on each other
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u/TheBulletBuddy 6d ago
Mine gets pissed off when she doesn't get to come with me, guess I got lucky there.
At the end of the day, priorities. Unless your behind on the important things, enjoy the money you work hard for.
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u/Ok-Target3363 6d ago
First ill say: if you guys aren’t ahead in life and you have a sizeable collection maybe slow your roll until 1k is negligible. You don’t need 5+ guns to keep a roof over your head and savings on track.
Second: I told my wife early on I will not ask her for permission to spend my money. Likewise she doesn’t need my permission to spend hers. We discuss anything that affects OUR money.. it’s a balance you guys need to sit down and zero in on.
Communication is the answer
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u/checkpointGnarly 6d ago
I wait till my Canadian tire card has $800+ of points on it… then the gun is pretty much free
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u/cannuckwoodchuck13 6d ago
I do carpetry jobs on the side, I save up any cash I get from family for holidays, and anything I sell on Facebook marketplace goes into my gun safe.
Its not a fortune, but I dont feel bad about spending money on my hobbies and my wife doesn't care.
I have also renovated our last 2 homes top to bottom and sold out last one for doubble what we bought it for, so I have paid my dues in sweat equity over the years.
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u/Fit_Equivalent3610 6d ago
If $1k is a lot of money to you, and you can't comfortably afford every single thing you mentioned in your post, then either (a) make more money or (b) dont spend it on a firearm
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u/SpectreBallistics Spectre Ballistics International (Verified) 6d ago
Make a savings account for hobby purchases. Move money into the account when it's available. The money in the savings account can be spent on whatever hobby. Money only goes into the savings account at the end of the month is there's any left over.
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u/Debilitationate 6d ago
Withdraw the 1k, double it on a hand of bj at the casino, deposit 1k back into the account (as if it never left), and use the rest to purchase a new gun.
**this is a joke. Gamble only with money you can afford to lose.
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u/No-Night-48 6d ago
For the low price of $9.99 I'll write you a receipt for the $300.00 purchase of that beautiful rifle you bought off of me because I'm desperate to pay my lawyer bills during my divorce 😉
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u/adhq 6d ago
My collection is my business. I don't ask or stress her about any of the stuff women do to be happy (shopping, hairdresser, renovations, remodeling, whatever, etc...). We have one life, do whatever makes you happy or you'll regret it later. "Happy wife" does not mean you have to sacrifice what you enjoy. What's $1000 relative to the expensive, boring stuff?
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u/FunPhilosophy4494 6d ago
The way we do it is OT money is my money. I work over and above and I do what I want with it.
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u/22GageEnthusiast 6d ago edited 3d ago
I know 5-6 dudes that can't convince their wife/gf to even sign off on the PAL application lol
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u/hunterofsteelhead 6d ago
After good sex when shes singing , smiling , doing things around the house, telling you for days after she can still feel it inside of her thats probally the best time to buy a firearm.
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u/AHangryBeaver 6d ago
I’m never getting a gun then lmao (kidding)
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u/hunterofsteelhead 6d ago
Youre hilarious. What firearm are you trying to get?
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u/AHangryBeaver 6d ago
Ideally I’d love to own a Lever action 30-30 or .32 special (although I’d settle for the “pistol” calibers.)
Like a pre 64 Winchester or somethingAnd I’d like to own an all matching SKs. Tickler or Tula.
My dad currently owns my .30-06 and a Tula and said he’d sell them back to me for $1000 for the pair which is fair. He bought the 30-06 for $500 way back when to help me out financially.
I also own an old Cooey .22 single shot. A TM22 semi auto .22
A hinge action .20 gauge shotgun and a Winchester .12 gauge pump
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u/hunterofsteelhead 6d ago
Tell your dad to give your damn guns back and youll pay him 50-100 a week until he has 1k back. You can make an extra 50-100 at least a week doing odd jobs / scrap metal, selling things you dont need. Can buy things in need of repair at auctions or Facebook marketplace fix them up and resell them too
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u/Boring_Name1 6d ago
This isn't super helpful if you want the new gun before hunting season or something.. but I always put an equal amount as any large unnecessary purchase into my savings account. It really illustrates how much you want this new gun to a person that seems like they may not understand it and it does something to help both of your futures.
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u/scottsuplol 6d ago
Honestly wifey loves guns too so she’s just down for me to buy whatever as long as the bills are getting paid
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u/GapSouth4305 6d ago
Depends on your relationship. Throughout our entire 12 years together I've made much more money and contributed more to the household (cooking, cleaning etc) so I basically have free reign to do what I want. If she has a problem with it it's no concern to me, she'd be fucked without me.
Buying new guns for no reason other than "it's fun" should be absolute last priority. You can justify one or two guns by claiming "self defence" or "hunting" or "if shit hits the fan", but that excuse stops working after a couple of guns. Make sure you're financially well off before you go spending more money on more guns and ammo.
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u/berthela 6d ago
That's part of why I ended up a rifle off of an old one. I got a Mauser for $300, my wife didn't think that was bad. Then I ordered lots of parts for it. She didn't think that was bad. Then I ordered a custom barrel for it that costs more than the rifle. She was okay with that too, lol.
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u/billymays82 6d ago
I recommend talking to her about saving a bit every month/paycheque to put towards one, separately from any other savings
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u/donzi39vrz 6d ago
I make enough to where she doesn't question anything unless I do it too frequently. More often with guns and other hobbies is saying I work hard and to go for it.
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u/LongRoadNorth 6d ago edited 6d ago
Have a budget or allotment for hobbies and spend it as fit.
My wife doesn't care when I drop $10k on a gun cause it's from my hobby fund.
As long as bills are paid and we have our date nights can't complain.
I put x amount per week into an account just for shooting. What I spend it on doesn't matter to her as long as the only money I'm spending on it is from that account.
That said I'm of the quality over quantity. I have 6 guns probably worth more than some guys have in 15 guns.
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u/Master-Editor2668 6d ago
I just buy it and that’s that she’s mad for a bit but whatever I’ve brought home 3500$ guns and I will admit that almost landed me on the couch but at the end of the day I’m the bread winner so…..
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u/looloopklopm 6d ago
I literally started a business to earn extra fun money to buy gun shit. My wife does share my range membership and comes shooting occasionally though, so some things get to cone out of the household budget
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u/Accurate-Specific966 6d ago
Household bills and the wife have to come first you need to make more money or be happy with cheaper guns. I know how it feels I used to spend a lot on firearms when I was single but with this economy, a wife and family I had to reduce the firearms budget. A lot.
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u/NemrahG 6d ago edited 6d ago
Be clear and upfront with her that is something you want to do, and what the costs are, so she doesn’t have any surprises. Set up some sort of system so you can save up for them without hindering you financially. Make a savings account or set up some sort of budgeting system for them, and keep your wife in the loop.
I’d also like to add that guns hold their value pretty well, as long as you take care of them you can recoup most of your costs or even make a profit if you ever want to sell them, the money spent isn’t just going away.
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u/AHangryBeaver 6d ago
Unless the government decides to add them to an arbitrary prohib list
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u/AssociationJust3879 6d ago
then you can export it, but idk if you can make a profit selling it overseas or in the usa
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u/Inside-Profile-5865 6d ago
Buy her a Chanel bag. She will leave you alone for a while. Trust me, I’m a fancy lady who shoots. My husband could have all the guns he wants for 1 Chanel bag.
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u/Opening_Pizza 6d ago
Sell the things that are taking up space
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u/AHangryBeaver 6d ago
If you mean guns, I only own 4 lmao 2 .22s and 2 shotguns
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u/Opening_Pizza 3d ago
In that case you gotta pump those numbers up. Keep an eye out for sales, or let stores send you promo emails. Try to use Sezzle (or Klarna or whatever) which lets you spread out the costs over a few weeks. Some credit cards will allow you to break up larger purchases into a few smaller payments. Driving to pickup stuff can save on shipping if practical. Once you figure out what your guns like buy the ammo in bulk. You deserve a hobby.
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u/AHangryBeaver 3d ago
The sezzle payment option is very dangerous for me lmao but yes it’s definitely an option. I could do $250 every couple months and get a $1000 gun easily
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u/Opening_Pizza 3d ago
I just bought a Beretta 1301 and it is my birthday/christmas present. If people ask what you want for bday/christmas Basspro gift cards are a decent choice. Cheers
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u/Agent_1812 https://youtu.be/mrAwb9ptu9U 6d ago
My wife has a Beretta a400 and a Browning Citori Sporting
none of my guns are worth that much
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u/NoGrapefruit1213 6d ago
My wife just doesn’t ask I’ve always had expensive hobbies. She buys what she wants, I buy what I want as long as our bills are paid and there’s food on the table we’re happy. And my kid has more than she needs to
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u/Awkward_Cheetah7519 6d ago
Get a wife thats also into guns. Mine gets very excited when I bring milsurp home
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u/SlowMud2776 6d ago
You have 2 22's and 2 shotguns? Whats the use of each, and what do you want to buy? I try to sell stuff that i dont really use anymore and put the cash towards stuff i would use. That way the fiscal impact isnt that bad.
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u/RyanTheRooster 6d ago
you both should have separate savings accounts that you both get a equal amount saved into each month for example. And any spending she makes on her Savings Account, you cannot criticize, like wise anything you spend on your savings account she isn't allowed to complain about. And if there is an emergency and you need to take money out of these savings accounts, then a equal amount should be withdrawn from both accounts, and should 1 have to pay more then the other, for example you pay $140 more then she did, then in a future month $70 that would have been saved into hers will be sent to yours instead to even everything out. That way she has a spending account she can use for what she wants, and you have a spending account you can use for what you want.
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u/iching66 6d ago
Realistically, I will recommend utilizing your savings and your debts. Make sure you are making a fair return on all your savings (even GIC is better than $0 chequing account), make sure you pay the lowest interest on your debts (especially don’t carry balance on your credit cards, but also look at your car debt and other stuff), as well as utilizing your credit card cash back/travel/canadian tire dollar etc. benefits. You will be surprised how much you can save by being more financially organized.
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u/Guardian2676 6d ago
I hate to say it but it kind of sounds like you're doing it right. Take care of you and yours financially first.
That being said, if it's an issue of having the money after bills but disagreements with the spouse on allocation, you've got three options in my experience:
1) Take them to the range a couple of times and use it as an excuse for some quality time together. It'll give you some one on one time outside of the house, give you a chance to showcase a passion and may even strengthen your connection through shared hobbies.
2) Set up a "hobby envelope" within your budgeting and allocate a specific percentage of your paycheck to it. Have your partner do the same so that your investments are your own and you can spend them however you want. It's a lot tougher to complain about how someone spends money when they saved and allocated it specifically for their own personal enjoyment.
3) Get divorced. Hookers don't care how you spend your money.
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u/feelmyfullmag 6d ago
earn that money through overtime / second job for the time needed then the boss cant say anything it is ALMOST LIKE you didnt spent anything because you earned extra? that my POV
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u/armor64 6d ago
Save up separate funds for it so it comes out of "hobby" money? I save separate piles for my 2 main hobbies, outside of regular bills. Classic Car Resto Funds, and Range Funds, get topped up whenever i can, and that way it doesnt cause any paint points at all, as its "free money" after that.
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u/swift_gilford 6d ago
The fact that you are discussing it with her is already a point in your favour. She can't hit you with the "you never discussed this with me".
Honestly the easiest way imo is for both of you to have a finance conversation and each have your own personal accounts that you agree upon your contributions. This money can be used @ your own discretion.
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u/adv_biker 6d ago
My wife has a $200 hair appointment every 2 months, that's $1200/year. I shave my own head for free. I spend my hair money on guns lol. I get a free pass once a year
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u/Bambam4040 6d ago
Ya be honest if you are worried about spending a 1000 and have to think about montage and bills probably spend it on that and spend less on guns.
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u/stokedon 4d ago
I waited for a milestone birthday and said how awesome it would be to buy a high end lever rifle that I could pass down to our future kids. Now im reloading 357 and yelling yahoo regularly.
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u/Borealbound 4d ago
Just do it, how many useless things does your wife buy? My wife buys a ton of things that she eventually decides to throw away. That $5000 sectional she decided on a whim to get rid of…the like $200 at a time she spends on seasonal holiday decor, yeah we really need a plastic leaf garland hanging from our fireplace and silly wall art with scripture verses…okay I will go and drop like $600 on gun. No my relationship isn’t healthy and yes I married an American
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u/AHangryBeaver 4d ago
Mine hasn’t bought herself anything in the 13 years we’ve been together. The most expensive thing she owns is a coach bag she bought on sale for $300.
That’s the problem. Mine works hard, is very frugal and doesn’t do the stupid shopping/needless spending. She spends her money on travel and food and generally that’s things we do together.
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u/Thelynxer 21h ago
If you don't have disposable income, then don't buy firearms. It's really that simple.
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u/ArcSharkLXIX 6d ago
Well we’re a single income family and as long as all the bills are paid I can pretty much buy whatever I want haha so that’s pretty neat.
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u/StraangeTamer 6d ago
Gets easier as the collection grows. You typically don’t leave the house with all of them at once and it gets to a point they stop keeping inventory. Save up cash if you don’t want it showing on the cc or bank account.
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u/bitronic1 6d ago
There's a very easy way to convince the boss every single time. Just BE the boss.
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u/BrotherLefthand 6d ago
I make 3x more than her. I'll spend whatever amount on whatever I want. 😂
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u/GapSouth4305 6d ago
Early on in my marriage I had the same thought process but never spoke it aloud. 10 years in is a different story haha. If she wants to save more she can make more, I work 3-4x more hours than she does, it's always been that way.
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u/BrotherLefthand 6d ago
That's too bad. We got a good thing going. Plenty enough to have fun, at least. Not rich by any means.
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