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I mean hard to tell based on just pics, would need to handle it and test the action, but based just off visual inspection it definitely looks sturdier and better materials/build quality. Looks to be quite a bit heavier, but I’d guess significantly more durable. Again, tough to say. I guess it also depends on whether you prioritize light weight or sturdier/more durable rifle. My personal opinion just looking at pics of the two I’d definitely opt for the C22.
The TM22 pro’s are pretty sturdy, all metal and I’ve yet to have any durability issues.
This is the same idea being cranked out by the same manufacturers. At best it’s simply an alternative offering of the same thing with a bit more window dressing. Same idea, more fancy milling.
You had me at O’dell. Dealt with them only a couple times but it was a positive experience. I certainly don’t need another 22 but I’ll give this a shot if it’s designed by them.
The whole O'Dell crew and family are some of the nicest people I've met.
Hearing Phil talk today about the whole thing really showed me how much they care
Cool beans, interested to see how it stacks up accuracy and reliability-wise, and if they’ll do a 22WMR version. For some reason people were talking about 22 magnum on another post I saw about this, not sure if they have a reason to think that will be an option or if it’s just wishful thinking but it’s a nice thought for sure.
Looking at pictures posted by gun owners of canada on their facebook page there is a tab that sticks out on the magazine when the follower is at the top.
That indicates it is probably is true bolt hold as I guess that external tab activates the BHO on the firearm.
Those magazines with the sides cut out look like you might be able to load these magazines quickly by pulling the magazine spring down and pouring the ammo into it or something like that.
I believe Canuck and Derya had a bit of a divorce, based on O'Dell no longer handling the Derya lever action 22s and such and posting about it a few months ago
That's a buy once cry once proposition but still (more) expensive ban-bait in these uncertain times.
Looking for cheapass Turkish that I can use while there is an apparent moratorium on new bans and write off as rent for 6 months. If it doesn't get banned and/or continues to operate properly, I guess I win the game.
I must say grudgingly…. That will kill the TM22. Being able to pull apart or hinge open the upper, perfect return to zero after cleaning, no wacky grip angle, proper floating barrel (as it appears… I might move on from my TM22 if the price is right
What are you then or can you not say? I'm going to take a wild guess here but I think you might have somthing to do with the range that they used am I correct?
But real question, are they going to be making a short 12 inch barrel? Because I'm actively pricing out a shortie tm22 pro, but if this has a short barrel, I'd be tempted because I hate how the tm22 mags look
Would be awesome if they make a fixed stock version so that the barrel is 8" or 6" or something dumb like 4.5" lol
Fixed stock means no OAL restrictions for rimfires (and manual action centrefires). The ST22M prototype with a 4.5" barrel has a 20.5" OAL for example, and is still NR. Unfortunately SBI won't be bringing it to the market.
I didn't get to really poke about on it, we were only using their own magazines today, but he said 10/22 mags will be backwards compatible with it, I'm not sure if that will involve an adapter or what
I also think it would be fucking sweet if they offered them in 22mag! Doubt it'll be the case but maybe if we all bug Odell enough they release a 22mag too
I was at the O'Dell range day (as media) and shot it (more pics in my review). note that this one had the bolt handle swapped to the left side while the other one on the line had it on the right side. they will be shown at TACCOM and i believe available for sale in November. As i am sure others have mentioned (didnt read the whole thread) it uses proprietary mags and will take 10/22 mags but the proprietary mags wont work in a 10/22
Definitely have to keep an eye on this one. Looks cool. If it can compete and improve upon the already solid TM22 it will be a purchase from me for sure.
Looks like it might take ar triggers too which would be nice, I also spot a proper pistol grip angle. An ar charging handle would've been the cherry on top, hopefully they make some 12" barrels and proprietary drum magazines
Id argue the main thing going for the tm's is their modularity and similar look to an AR, does this even have either of those? If not then i can't see it replacing it
Here's the real question: does it have a last round bolt hold open? Or is it still manual? Also, are the proprietary 25 rounders goofy like the TM-22, comically wide like the TUF-22, or do they actually look normal like the BX-25 and GSG-16?
At least it's a left side charging handle, thank god.
I'm debating it too, I'm seriously considering getting 4 of them to use at our club for range days and ladies days.
Not having people need to decypher the 10/22 bolt release is a big selling point for nervous/fat fingered first time shooters.
I love it. Its got better AR vibes than the TM22, although at least the TM22 can be bad with a 12" barrel now. I still might grab one though, they look sexy for a 22.
It does look like a slightly redesigned TM22 though. Looks like it might have AR handguard compatability?
Looks good, less the skeletonize but that’s preference. Hopefully takes notion of the 12” barrel trend. hate seeing these barrels over 16” on tactical .22s 😭 thought someone told them 18 is only a magic number when had centerfire
Wait, so it has a true LRBHO where you can press a button to let the bolt fly like on an AR15? And is it possible to see pictures of the left side of the gun?
Am excited looks promising especially the metal construction as well as AR grip compatibility
Is there a bolt lock? Is it a floating barrel? How is the accuracy? What ammo did you use and how was the accuracy? My TM22 doesn't compete with my restricted GSG-15
I don't see it being a TM22 killers that's for sure. Another option sure but TM22 is pretty good and the accessories and mods are awesome. Looks nice but definitely not a killer
Just wait till the guys making tm22 parts/accessories get going on these.
No more having to stick washers between the bolt and buffer to prevent over travel and charging handle sheering, no more stripping the receiver, no more re zeroing optics after every cleaning, no more removing extractors to get it to feed/extract properly, no more sanding/polishing the firing pin and its bore to get it to move freely. Theres a TON of stuff that hopefully, is not an issue with these new rifles.
And even if these ones (inevitably will) have issues, Odell seems to be the king of warranty interactions, so theres a pretty good amount of positives buzzing around here.
The only thing the tm22 has going for it over this one, right out of the gate, is an aftermarket top charging handle option. Otherwise, theres nothing special about the TM22 at all, and this is coming from a TM22 owner lol.
I don't have one of these issues at all. I have the charging handle which is awesome. But my TM22 shoots amazing non-issue after cleaning. Is extremely accurate. Sorry you having so many issues but mine is extremely flawless so. I just want the gsg back. Don't care to get anymore 22s at this moment
Im with you there in terms of my personal one not giving me issues. Im at 4k rounds through it and only had to do the usual washer replacement and extractor removal. But on the TM22 group on FB, as well as posts here, theres a pretty even split between people having no issues, and people having total duds.
If this one has better QC and the warranty company they use doesnt have to recommend removing parts (extractors) or installing washers to prevent over travel (happens to every tm22 since plastic buffer will get chewed up by the hollow/sharp faced buffer tube eating the rubber dampener and allow the over travel) then theyre already ahead of derya lol.
A factory LRBHO and not having to re zero after removing the top portion of the receiver is still the biggest thing going for it though. Hope the quality is actually there though, sucks having rifles that look cool but run like absolute trash.
I just want cooler firearms. I have no enthusiasm for 22s anymore. Why cant there be more affordable semi auto rifles in more powerful calibers. Lets see a modernized sks or something
just a scarcity thing, the market for semi auto centrefires and even 22 mag is too small due to the ban and general market demand. Too many Canadians are simply scared of owning a firearm because the media brainwash did actually work. The heavy taxation and limited income isn't helping either as people would've more money to spend on hobbies like sports shooting
Its wild to me. Ive lived in a few countries and I find canadian firearms owners to be some of the most educated and responsible of anywhere ive seen and yet they are treated as some of the most irresponsible and uneducated. It only makes sense to me that the government wants more firepower superiority over its citizens because the public safety thing makes no sense to me at all.
that's what lots of Canadian politician feels internally. They definitely won't say it that way. Even though I don't think Canadian government would ever thought about using military on its people (at least not yet). But imagine a massive group of well regulated and educated gun owners is in your way (in terms of political stands)of expanding the government's power. would you be scared? Plus Canadian firearm laws are not written in constitution black and white like America, so the government is more encouraged to do whatever they want as long as the mass (brainwashed voters) are on their side, and they can slowly take everything away from you. Democracy, or you can call it “the tyrannical majority”.
Gun is great I think I was one of the first few there to fire it initially and I had no problems. Though they did run into mag related issues due to incorrect loading of the magazine from users apparently.
My kral didn’t run the best, but I went over the extractor claw. Stretched the spring to give it a bit more pressure, and made sure the claw was engaging the rim of the case and holding it properly.
Now I can dump multiple mags without any stove pipes
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