r/canadaguns Aug 08 '26

Misc Why is the Derya TM22 so famous?

I recently purchased a TM22 Pro, and was wondering what makes it so popular? I’ve seen it in the subreddit multiple times, what’s your favourite part about the firearm?

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u/Splattah_ Aug 08 '26

Cheap, 25 round magazine, reasonably accurate, tacticool.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

Except not compatible with any Ruger 10/22 derivatives including other Turkish brands. That's a no go just for that reason. The ProMag Remington Model 597 .22 LR 22-Round Magazine is cross compatible with several different Turkish rifles including the Ruger 10/22 and same goes for all the original Ruger magazines like BX-25 series. You can also get the rotary 30 round version if you wanted to or higher.

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u/thehuntinggearguy 3gun, Mapleseed, YouTuber, SlamFire Radio, Revolver-hater Aug 09 '26

Tm22 mags are more reliable than 597s, and you need to use an adapter to use 597 mags in a 10/22.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 09 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

And the Ruger magazines are more reliable than the Turkish second tier knockoffs. Yes I have an adaptor not a big deal but as I said TM22 mags will not work on my other rifles so it's a no go. Literally have 3 other rifles all cross compatible magazines Ruger originals or Remington third party. All the posters are wrong, there is way way way more selection and variety on the 10/22 cross compatible platform and especially for magazines which are actually cheaper and move available. By the way Ruger is superior quality to anything Turkish. The RF 224 is all metal and takes any Ruger magazines. Ruger magazines are more reliable than any Turkish knockoffs sorry. What a sad state to be left getting Turkish one-off proprietary second tier guns and thinking they're great--they're not, just pure cope. All my handguns are German or American made by the way.

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u/anonyme450 Aug 09 '26

I literally can't find a Remington 597 online anywhere right now. Is this prohibited or just really rare for some reason?

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 09 '26

Just search google there's quite a few different online retailers that have them in stock including the major ones. Both the adaptor and magazines. The magazines are easy to find usually promag.

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 Aug 08 '26

It's cheap and cheerful, to build a similar 10/22 SBR, it'll cost about $1,500 -$2,000.

I still prefer my 10/22s but most people don't have or want to sink that much money into a 22LR plinker.

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u/Uncle_Ted_1942 Aug 08 '26

It is essentially the replacement to the GSG-16, which was a very popular cheap “cool” looking semi auto .22 with some modding capabilities, that scratched the itch for people who wanted to modify guns but didn’t want to spend a ton of money doing so.

When the GSGs got banned, the people who wanted a cool tactical looking .22 plinker needed a new gun to use.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 09 '26

Not all GSGs got banned. Just got a GSG 1911 Mauser 22LR that cost twice as much in the end as this Turkish toy. GSG is German made. All metal including the magazines.

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u/Uncle_Ted_1942 Aug 08 '26

I guess I was being a bit broad. When I said that I MAINLY meant the GSG-16 and the other similar models that were just a meh .22 semi that looked cool.

I’m assuming you have a ATC or something like that to get the 1911? I kinda wanted one when handguns were legal to transfer since the price point of a .45 1911 was way too high for freshly 18 year old me lol

Also still kicking myself for not being able to get my RPAL in time to buy a Tokarev TT-33 for $300.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 09 '26

Handguns are legal to transfer with an Olympic discipline 22LR exemption letter but you'll have to source new ones from the USA as Canadian retailers don't import new ones anymore. You can get pretty much any handgun in the 22LR version including the 1911. You wouldn't have been able to afford the .45 ammo anyway for regular range shooting/training. Imagine the cost of a few thousand rounds a year.

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u/strickenchips Aug 10 '26

It's a massive upgrade over the GSG*

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u/Uncle_Ted_1942 Aug 10 '26

Yeah GSGs kinda gave me the same feeling as cheap Amazon “optics” if that comparison makes sense

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u/No-Night-48 Aug 10 '26

The TM-22 is replacing my GSG-15 that I only got to use for a year. That GSG-15 was not only unbelievably accurate for what it was, it was AK reliable. My buddy and I both abused ours and they wouldn't hiccup on anything we threw into them. It wasn't until the 500 round mark the carbon build up from all the garbage we ran through them started to keep the bolt from going into battery.

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u/TheBulletBuddy Aug 08 '26

Price. Looks. And SLIGHTLY (still turk) better QC than the usual turkish options.

Its gaining a good amount of aftermarket support aswell.

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u/LumberjackCDN Gold'n Loan Outfitters & Pawn Aug 08 '26

The OG aluminium ones with the 18" barrels were often tac drivers. The new ones since distro change are still cool but from what ive seen the quality isnt the same as before.

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u/Ok-Raise-5115 Aug 08 '26

I’ve got one of those and with a shitty bipod and questionable scope I can punch a toonie 10 times at 50 yards. Good enough for squirrel hunting

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u/yolo_swagdaddy Aug 09 '26

The amount of times I’ve seen people state the tm22 isn’t accurate so “don’t bother putting anything more than a red dot”, on is wild. I was punching out centers last weekend at 50 yards, with a cvlife optic 2nd gen all aluminum 18”. It’s a fantastic tac 22. Mags suck tho lol

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u/Ok-Raise-5115 Aug 09 '26

I’ve got 3 25 rounders and 4 10 rounders and the only ones I’ve ever had an issue with are the metal 10 rounders. I find they don’t set properly up in the magwell so they don’t grab the rounds

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u/yolo_swagdaddy Aug 09 '26

My plastic mags all keep having the follower back smashed by the bolt after the last round. Couldn’t figure out why it kept rim-locking after I was making sure each round was perfectly loaded. Cut the backs down but now no bolt hold open.

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u/Big-Guitar-1979 Aug 08 '26

If we had options, who would buy this shit

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u/BrotherLefthand Aug 09 '26

Simple as that. It only survives because of our shit market.

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u/EliteDuck Aug 09 '26

It's mostly cope, but rimfires still have a place even if the bans are undone. It's nice not spending hundreds on a range day.

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u/Agonizing-Stroke1812 Aug 08 '26

With the 10/22 magazine limit there are no great options for uncapped semi .22lrs. From what I see it's basically between the Remington 597, Pietta PPS50, and then misc. Turkish guns with the TM22 being the most ubiquitous, and the Kral more recently. You can also get a magazine adapter for the 10/22 but at that point you're kind of degrading the proven reliability of the 10/22 platform.

None of the uncapped mag options are of particularly fantastic quality, so why not buy the cheapest and arguably coolest looking ones? I say that as a 10/22 purist who owns no other semi 22lrs

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 08 '26

Because if you have several rifles you want the magazines to be cross compatible with the 10/22 and this one is not and also can't take the Remington 597 adaptor or Ruger magazines of any kind.

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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 Aug 08 '26

I would prefer OEM Ruger magazines too, but the HC3R magazines run pretty well in my 10/22 once I figured out the loading method and ammo type (Federal AutoMatch). I do hate how the magazines pop apart at the worst possible time, but speed loading them is fantastic - 20 round in 5 -10 seconds.

The HC3R magazines are in short supply these days since DLASK closed down and TSC sold off a large batch in May.

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u/number75 Aug 08 '26

It has a low cost to performance floor. The cost to build out an equivalent 10/22 with similar size, ergonomics, and magazine capacity will usually cost double to triple the TM22. You can definitely make a 10/22 better shooting and more ergonomic than a TM22, but it'll definitely cost a lot more.

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u/E_Killer Aug 08 '26

I just love it and it's so fricking cool looking

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u/floppy_breasteses Aug 08 '26

Inexpensive, tactical, and reliable (sometimes). I still prefer the 10/22 but I was leaning towards the TM22 until I heard about regular fail to fire issues. Never heard any real complaints with the Ruger.

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 08 '26 edited Aug 08 '26

I didn't get one because they are not compatible with 10/22 magazines. I instead got a Ruger 10/22 modded to look like a HK G-36 and others like Adler Arms RF224 Tactical 11.7 and the new KRAL Arms KR22 Tactical. That way all the magazines are interchangeable both using the Remington 597 adaptor for 22 rounds and original Ruger BX-25 (pinned to 10). And of course the original rotary 10 rounds Ruger mags.

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u/NoGrapefruit1213 Aug 08 '26

I have the 10/22 in the archangel stock. It’s heavy it’s fun and looks cool sure but I prefer both my tm22’s the pro and the iron wolf lever action. They are lighter more user friendly and so far for me just as reliable the ruger usually just sits on the wall now. The sights that come with the nomad are awful and I can’t find anything I really like for it I have bushnell trs25 that’s okay but doesn’t look great on the rifle

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u/Curious_Joe2020 Aug 08 '26

You're supposed to put optics on the top rail on a riser. I'll take some pics and post my build later.

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u/NoGrapefruit1213 Aug 08 '26

Ahh yes Chin weld lol

I had one of these years ago that I ended up selling but it had an airsoft g36 scope in it I might pick another one up and try it out I remember it being kinda shit but held zero 🤷‍♂️

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u/Elspin Aug 08 '26

Honestly I just got mine because it was way cheaper than building a 10/22 the way I wanted it but it's been an absolute machine running incredibly well with shockingly low maintenance 

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u/CryptidWorks CryptidWorks Aug 08 '26

Cheap, reasonably accurate, compact and with an increasing aftermarket (in no small part due to Alex's Homebrew).

It's plain ol' good value once it's broken in and tinkered with a little (I had to pull my left side extractor out and now it runs like a dream)

I only run into failures to fire with very specific brands. No issues with CCI Blazer or Eley Subsonic. Didn't like CCI Quiet Semi as much.

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u/NeruLight Aug 08 '26

They have a cool design

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u/scottsuplol Aug 09 '26

I turned mine honestly into my cope gun, it’s short barrel with my fake can cool optics and mag covers. Can go to the range and mag dump a 25 without breaking the bank

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u/Dickastigmatism Aug 09 '26

It kinda looks like an AR15, that's about it.

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u/FAMOUS0612 Aug 09 '26

It's cheap

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u/EnggyAlex Alex's Homebrew Aug 09 '26

I play a bit of the role there lol

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u/SergeantSteiner Aug 11 '26

I just picked up one of the 12 inch models a couple weeks ago and will be definitely placing an order for one of your charging handle kits in the next week or two haha. Like the gun a lot, but the stock side charging handle is trash compared to the 10/22.