r/canadaguns Apr 15 '26

News / Politics / Activism Time to ban pump shotguns!!

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u/rastamasta45 Apr 15 '26

1 billion percent, I mean in 1994 they got the firearms act, then banned AR15’s, then handguns, then more rifles and then all the WW2 rifles and they’re still calling for more.

They will be coming for “rapid action” next and then eventually “single shot high velocity armour piercing death howitzers, because that one bullet is a WMD”

They won’t ever stop

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u/4r4nd0mninj4 Apr 15 '26

Somewhere, Poly is on record in the 90s, saying they would disband after this ban as they've accomplished their goal...

They were lying through their teeth. It will never end.😔

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u/alphawolf29 Apr 15 '26

Their jobs literally depend on it so of course.

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u/Flintly Apr 15 '26

Why kill the golden goose

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u/canvanman69 Apr 15 '26 edited Apr 15 '26

Donate to the anti-gun Polytechnique survivor group today and all your wildest dreams will come true. :/

When they all inevitably die of old age, will the organization switch to grifting the anti-aging fight next? It happened 36 years ago. Give it a rest at 40 or 50 please.

Or, let's start up a political lobby for the Bloody Falls Massacre of 1771. We desperately need to ban small skinning knives and the incredibly lethal assault bow's and arrows. Someone needs to think of the children.

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u/BlackElmyr Apr 15 '26

It's worse than that. I think YouTuber BATS888 nailed it a while back. They go at this like they've unresolved PTSD and we're all psychos waiting to pop. Like some fanatical crusader, for them no lie, no misrepresentation no underhanded tactic is unacceptable or too far till the threat is gone.

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u/benjy017 Apr 15 '26

Must be a good business to be in

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u/yolo_swagdaddy Apr 15 '26

How long until they start banning pumps and bolt actions because you can cycle them too quickly?

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u/ADGx27 Apr 15 '26

Wouldn’t be shocked if they bring up WW1 rifle drills about the Mad Minute to ban Lee Enfields

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u/NL1839 Apr 16 '26

They’ll start using “capable of sustained rapid fire” to ban them. Just like “assault style”, make up a word and use it so much that people that don’t know any better believe you. Just like “assault style” became just assault rifles “capable of sustained rapid fire” will just become “rapid fire” and it can cover what’s left that hasn’t been banned

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u/Longjumping_Deer3006 Apr 16 '26

Wait until they ban buckshot or shot.

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u/MilkIlluminati Apr 16 '26

"It fires 12 bullets with every trigger pull!!!!"

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u/leyland1989 Apr 15 '26

Muzzle loaders were legitimately weapons of wars!! /s

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u/M1CAustin Apr 15 '26

Yeah they were coming for bb guns before.

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u/rastamasta45 Apr 15 '26

Oh my god and their rational was that “they could easily be modified to fire real bullets and I’ve seen it” Pam Demof said that.

These people literally don’t understand how metal and physics work. Like how stupid that statement is, literally clinically stupid.

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u/MustardTiger88 Apr 15 '26

Pam Damof. I will always remember her name from the piss poor job she did under the Trudeau liberals.

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u/escv_69420 Apr 15 '26

One could much more easily make a gun using hand tools from scratch, including the powder, projectiles and ignition system, than make an airsoft gun shoot live ammo.

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u/EvanAzzo Apr 15 '26

Are you saying BB guns haven't been modified to fire real rounds?

Because, they have. I've seen it.

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u/emugamer222 Apr 15 '26

Banning guns doesn't affect anyone who's modifying a bb gun to kill someone, they don't follow the law anyway

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u/EvanAzzo Apr 15 '26

That's not what he's implying. He's implying that metallurgy and physics prevent you from modifying a BB gun to fire live ammunition. That's incorrect. You absolutely can modify certain BB guns to fire live ammunition and I've seen it done.

See the problem with this echo chamber subreddit is a lot of you neanderthals think you're subject matter experts and you go off spouting incorrect information that make all gun owners look just a dumb as yourselves.

I worked as a Weapons technician, I worked in the civilian firearms manufacturing industry, and now I work in a law enforcement capacity and I know what gets seized, I know what's out there and I actually know what I'm talking about because this has been my livelihood for longer than some people on this subreddit have been alive. While also having a PAL longer than most people in this subreddit

I'd have almost let the comment go if he hadn't declared it was the most preposterous thing to ever be insinuated when he's in fact absolutely wrong and it 100% can be done.

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u/Lumindan Apr 15 '26

By your logic we might as well ban tables because they can be used to modify weapons.

No more cars because they could be used for car bombs. Same with propane tanks.

The way to reduce violence is to get to the root of it, mental health services etc.

No need to be a jerk about it though. We have enough problems at the gate vs tearing each other a strip.

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u/EvanAzzo Apr 15 '26

I'm not saying to ban anything. Where did I say to ban things?

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u/Lumindan Apr 15 '26

No but your reasoning is attempting to justify their bans.

Just because there exists a possibility of a bb gun being modified doesn't mean bbs should be banned.

It's the same problem we're seeing now. Just because illegal guns are used in mass casualty events 30+ years ago doesn't mean we should ban ownership on semis now. But Poly believes it (or at least they push it to keep the machine running).

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u/EvanAzzo Apr 15 '26

It's not attempting to justify their bans at all.

It's pointing out he is wrong. It is possible, and to say it isn't is more stupid than people saying it is possible.

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u/BrotherLefthand Apr 15 '26

Firstly, I'm not reading all that mess. Secondly, blow it out your self-aggrandizing anus. Thirdly, just because something can be done doesn't mean it is done easily. If you're actually afraid of bandits with modified BB guns becoming a rampant problem, a problem that justifies stricter firearms legislation, you need to get off Facebook.

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u/EvanAzzo Apr 15 '26

You can't read it because you lack the comprehension to understand what's being written. Your final point demonstrates that fact.

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u/BrotherLefthand Apr 15 '26

Okay boomer 👍

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u/BoooRadley13 Apr 15 '26

I think you joined Reddit to have people that will actually talk to you. You used the word "I" far too many times, let other people speak once in a while, in the real world.

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u/99spider Apr 15 '26

Are those modifications any easier than 3d printing a frame/receiver? Essentially all of the components that will ever touch the cartridge need to be replaced.

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u/Jimbo_Slice1919 Apr 15 '26

I’ve seen a shotgun made out of one of those steering wheel clubs. Should we be banning metal pipes and nails too? Since you could technically make a “shotgun” out of those as well. By shotgun I mean a crude apparatus capable of discharging a shotgun shell which may or may not remove the hands of the one use such device.

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u/Foreign_Active_7991 Apr 16 '26

Because, they have. I've seen it.

With what, a .22 short that blows it up 3 shots in?

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u/wpgffs Apr 15 '26

They’re gateway guns, like the devils lettuce leads to hard drugs /S

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u/4r4nd0mninj4 Apr 15 '26

There's two bills in I think New York, which is trying to reclassify everything that's not a firearm (BB, pellet, airsoft, paintball) into "replica." And since replicas are required to have plugged barrels, it would end the culture of children being introduced to wholesome gun ownership and safety. Thus wiping out most new gun owners in a generation or two.

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u/wpgffs Apr 15 '26

Unbelievable. What’s next, Nerf guns?

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u/FrozenSeas Apr 15 '26

We're next to that already, airsoft and BB guns are "uncontrolled firearms" and have to be in a strict muzzle energy band to be legal. For airsoft it works out to 366-500fps with an 0.20g BB. Under is a "replica firearm" and those are illegal (or at least illegal to import, somewhat more grey in-country, but it's why we can't get stuff like nonfiring model guns), above is the same as any nonrestricted and requires a PAL.

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u/4r4nd0mninj4 Apr 15 '26

Unfortunately, any "progress" by the anti-gun establishment in either country will be used to further their agenda in both countries.

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u/BrotherLefthand Apr 15 '26

It was around the same time the UK prohibited a bunch of blank pistols that "could be easily converted to shoot live ammunition". Poly won't stop.

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u/Melodic-Street-8898 Apr 15 '26

Sad because more crimes are commited with bb guns than real guns owned be licensed owners

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u/LordRevan1996 Apr 15 '26

Reminds me of that mother in the UK that lost her son. He was murdered by other kids with katanas. Now the UK banned “ninja” swords. They let their grief blind them and others take advantage of that grief to push political agendas.

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u/sounoriginal13 Apr 15 '26

Never waste a good crisis.

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u/LordRevan1996 Apr 15 '26

Yup. It’s disgusting.

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u/BlackElmyr Apr 15 '26

It's easier on their minds than trying to fix society's ills and then realising there will always be deviants.

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u/cartman101 Apr 15 '26

Next: PolySeSouvient demands the government ban firearma from Fortnite

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u/PotatoFondler Apr 15 '26

Well C21 originally had a provision where they wanted to ban the “glorification” of firearms in advertisements. They also had to clarify that they weren’t going after any other media. But give an inch and they’ll take the whole mile.

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u/Longjumping_Deer3006 Apr 16 '26

Honestly if Poly is dumb enough to target the gamers then that would put alot of heat on them.

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u/DYTREM Apr 15 '26

Them and Wendy Cuckier from Ryerson.

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u/SandySpectre Apr 15 '26

I’ve been saying this for years and everyone looks at me like I’ve grown a seventh head. The end goal for Poly and the other anti gunners is the complete abolition of private firearm ownership in Canada. And the Liberal party fully supports that goal. They’ve been slowly working towards that since the 90s and they won’t stop.

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u/Captain_chutzpah Apr 15 '26

Lol they don't even care about guns anymore. This is just their job. But if they aren't doing something they don't get paid. If you could convince them being vegan is more important and nothing about their funding supply legally obligates it specifically to guns, you could probably get them to chase that instead.

They will never ban meat, but they can yell for the rest of their lives getting paid. Everyone wins.

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u/InstanceClean4114 Apr 16 '26

It will never end with the LPC*