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u/DJ_Necrophilia May 27 '22

I agree; however, in order to win an election, we need to siphon as much support from the left as possible. Owning the prairies is great and all, but it won't win any elections

This is why I support centrist candidates

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u/DJ_Necrophilia May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Some things wouldn't be so bad to adopt such as pro lgbt, pro choice and pro environmental policies.

These are the big things that average Canadians care about

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

I can't fill up my truck and I'm forking over a lot more money to buy food than usual. I think these two things take more precedence over partisan issues

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u/DJ_Necrophilia May 27 '22

Justifiable, however once the war in Ukraine ends causing gas prices drop and inflation gets under control in a couple of years: Canadians will care more about the "partisan" issues again.

If the CPC cannot modernize, and wants to keep their 1950s social mindset then the party will be dead in the water. The other week, I made this same argument in the CCFR group on Facebook and got relentlessly attacked for suggesting that we try to be more friendly to trans individuals, and that going further right to recapture folks who crossed over to the PPC was the wrong course of action

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

I don't know where to begin with this. Conservative values are conservative values, liberal values are liberal values. Things like abortion are almost never going to be condeded on. I honestly don't understand how environment turned into a partisan issue but I'm theorizing it has to do with pipeline construction. Gay marriage and other lgbt issues are also other things I don't necessarily see conservative voters conceding on either. The party has changed, voters not so much.

As far as I'm aware, you're not excluded from getting a PAL if you're trans. I'm not going to derail the conversation any further but I think you're trying to label the major demographic of the gun community as something else. You're making an issue out of something that wasn't really an issue to begin with. The PPC vote splitting is a big factor as to why 2021 was lost. O Toole kept pandering and lost. Voters don't like that.

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u/fltlns May 28 '22

If the cpc doesn't come around to some degree on social issues and environment, they will never win again.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22

So your ideal version of the conservatives is to be what the LPC was 10 years ago? Yeah, no.
Another commenter said the CPC are going to be Liberal-lite if they keep following what O'Toole did. The CPC lost even though the months leading up to the election predicted a win. I don't understand this fascination of wanting the CPC to transform into yet another left-wing party.

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u/[deleted] May 28 '22

Yup. Selling out your ideals to appeal to a non-existent voting bloc is futile and only makes the country worse off.