r/canadaguns • u/Revolutionary-Owl576 • Jul 28 '26

Shooting Pure freedomšŸ‡ŗšŸ‡ø Trip to the usa

Honey badger 300Blackout suppressed

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u/spicymeatmemes Jul 28 '26

While they have different laws that allow this, depending on who you are, its far from free.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

sure as fuck more free than this dump

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u/theweepingarmadillo Jul 28 '26

Get out of here then boss we wonā€™t stop ya!Ā 

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

I come when I can! haha

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

Ah dang, I pissed off the elbows up crowd it seems lol

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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

My concern with ā€œit sucks here I want to leaveā€ is that itā€™s very anti-patriotic. While I love firearms and this community, I love my actual country - the landscape, culture, and core values - even more than that.

Iā€™d prefer stay, contribute my productivity and taxes, participate in my civic duty to vote, and ultimately try my best to engage politically to improve this place rather than leave. I also believe thatā€™s the patriotic thing to do.

More power to you m if you want to leave, especially if youā€™re not interested in permanent residency or citizenship but I definitely think itā€™s a bit misguided to leave simply due to the status quo politically. This is especially the case given the current legislative changes being made in the US. Trump isnā€™t exactly pro-2A and many states are actively harming their gun communities much like here (like Virginia, cali, etc). We actually have less restrictions here than some specific states.

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u/TheSpagheeter Jul 29 '26

Thank you man put my feelings into words. People will have 1000 things to be grateful for in this country and then name an obscure incident that doesnā€™t even affect their day to day lives as to why itā€™s a evil fascist country or something

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u/gimmedatneck Jul 28 '26

Canada is fuckin awesome.

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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Jul 28 '26

My dude šŸ¤œšŸ¤›

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u/Objective_Estimate21 Jul 28 '26

Depends who you ask. Obviously it's a great country relative to most others. But there's a decline in quality of life for people my age. The good thing is, once we get a government who actually cares about the people, we can be very prosperous. We should be one of the wealthiest nations in the world with all the energy and rare earth minerals we have. They do us no good while they're in the ground tho

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u/Thegiant98 Jul 28 '26

*was fuckin awesome. We need to take our country back and make it awesome again.

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u/handen Jul 29 '26

"We need ta take are country back!" From who? Be specific.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

I get what you're saying but I don't necessarily agree. I've been a Canadian citizen since 2005. Back then it was something to have pride in. And I don't chalk it up to the status quo, considering I've watched and did my so called civic duty of voting just to realise it does nothing it's all an illusion and a joke. At least 3rd world despots admit to it unlike here. I don't care much for Mr.Trump either so don't throw me into that crowd. I'm just a pragmatist if anything.

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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Jul 28 '26

I can respect your perspective! That said Iā€™m trying to engage more beyond voting myself, and we definitely need reform since our first past the post system isnā€™t really great IMO (Iā€™m interested in what a real coalition government could do for us).

That said, voting still matters. And things can change in basically any country you go to so at some point settling down and giving back to wherever you land does have benefit.

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u/classicfroger420 Jul 29 '26 edited Jul 29 '26

Meanwhile, Trump has been the most 2A-friendly president compared with his predecessors. And even in the most restrictive states, people can still access ar15, although with more restrictions.

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u/The_King_of_Canada mb Jul 28 '26

I never understood why patriotism is shit on by people like you. Guns dont equal freedom.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

I'm loyal to the land, not the the government. Big difference between that.

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u/Cager_CA Jul 29 '26

They actually doĀ 

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u/Panjaab1 Jul 28 '26 edited Jul 28 '26

Agreed. As a Canadian that was born and raised in this country, I have definitely seen the dwindling of our freedoms, in recent years, especially with recent legislation.

The USA definitely has its fair share of problems but I will never understand dismissing positive aspects of their legal frameworks/society to compensate for the downsides of our state of affairs.

I mean I think as gun owners we have all seen the law turned against us by our own government. If we had legislative framework/charter provisions to prevent this, it wouldā€™ve never happened in the first place.

Edit: to those who are downvoting, is anything I am saying genuinely wrong or incorrect? I donā€™t understand how as Canadian gun owners, on a Canadian gun sub, we have neutered ourselves into thinking our current state of affairs is remotely ok if it means we are morally superior to the US.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

I've lived in 4 different countries, been a legal gun owner in 3 of them. Im an immigrant to Canada and have watched this country deteriorate first hand. I try to make the best of what I can here like all of us do with guns, but its dishonest to say that we have more freedom than USA or that our situation isnt straight fucked.

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u/greeenappleee Jul 29 '26

Yemen has even more unrestricted legal access to firearms than the US, guess they are actually the most free country if thats your only metric.

Freedom has more aspects than access to guns. We certainly have issues but to pretend that just because we have less access to guns we are worse off is wild.

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u/coniferslav Jul 29 '26

And when the fuck did I say that was my absolute metric? You throw some Islamic 3rd world shithole into the mix as your argument? Talk about disingenuous.

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u/Lord_Space_Lizard Jul 28 '26

The Human Freedom Index disagrees with you that the USA has more freedom than us.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

Oh sorry, you said Human "Freedom" Index? What governing body came up with that metric and who funds it?

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u/The_King_of_Canada mb Jul 28 '26

Its an NGO. Google is free.

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u/CryingHardly Jul 28 '26

This guy gets it

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u/The_King_of_Canada mb Jul 28 '26

Its an NGO that measures every country on various metrics. This guy gets a lot of propaganda in his socials.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

I don't do social media. I travel and have a job and education that requires me to travel to foreign lands. You don't even try to one up me there pal.

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u/lolingcats Jul 28 '26

Easy mistake to make, assuming a guy making points contrary to presented evidence is fueled by social media. Guess rephrasing is needed: "Guy thinks his anecdotes are above evidence." That more palatable?Ā 

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

Yeah. As a matter of fact, yeah. My lived experiences or anecdotal evidence is much more real than what others say it is. And I'm tired of pretending otherwise. Call me a fool all you want, but I see the world person by person, place by place, experience by experience.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

The HDI doesnt mean shit. I speak from my own experience.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

There will be no middle class soon. I had the same opinion as you 10-15 years ago. Had a job with benefits lined up in Arizona and turned it down to stay here. What a mistake that was.

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u/Panjaab1 Jul 29 '26

Thatā€™s good and all. I honestly am so thankful for being in a place where I donā€™t have to worry about water quality or air quality too much where other people have to fight for these things. You are definitely right that preserving that environment allows freedom of health and other often more ā€œintangibleā€ freedoms for people.

That also doesnā€™t mean we should settle for the governments bullshit in the name of good enough and firearms rights are part of a multifaceted package.

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u/coniferslav Jul 29 '26

I've lived in Arizona, Vietnam and Pakistan. You haven't been humbled enough.

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u/coniferslav Jul 29 '26

Mine came after the fall of the USSR. What of it?

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u/The_King_of_Canada mb Jul 28 '26

Good God no. Go smoke a joint down there and youll see how free they truly are.

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u/coniferslav Jul 28 '26

Been there and done that. UP Michigan, no issue.

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u/22GageEnthusiast Jul 29 '26

This mf really made the "duuuude but weeed" argument lol