r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Jul 20 '26

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u/WeightedDips95 Jul 21 '26

Gotta love how how Carney was elected on being a master negotiator and crisis man and 1.5 years has nothing to show for it and we’re getting ground into dust. Judging by his supporters discourse on Reddit and X, they’re in a negative feedback loop where the worse he does and the more tarrifs we get the more they’re convinced he is a god. It even seems like they’re willing to nuke our economy over this. Pretty scary shit. We’re in a mass psychosis

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u/2Puppers4Sale Boating Enthusiast Jul 21 '26 edited Jul 21 '26

There is this weird standard in which if Carney gets a good trade deal with the US, he is a master negotiator who can handle Trump but if he doesn't, that also means he is a master negotiator who won't deal with an unreasonable person like Trump, so no matter what happens, Carney is seen as a master negotiator who is smart and pragmatic and his approval sky rockets because your average Canadian is a moron who cares more about being smugly anti-American than anything else.

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u/WeightedDips95 Jul 21 '26

Perfectly put. The Liberals have managed to manipulate the informational environment into a situation where they can never do wrong and conservatives can never do right. 

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u/2Puppers4Sale Boating Enthusiast Jul 21 '26

For real, like if Pierre Poilievre was in charge instead, people would say that he folded and caved in to Trump if he got a deal and that he has no negotiation skills whatsoever if he didn't get a deal.

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u/WeightedDips95 Jul 21 '26

100%. Or if he had been calling for very specific policies for years, they would say his ideas are garbage and destructive, but if Carney stole them, they would say Carney has great ideas and that PP actually never even has any ideas lmao. 

I honestly just don’t even think Canadian democracy works at this point. We have psychopaths in control, media that has abdicated all responsibilities, and a smoothbrain electorate.  

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u/LordRaizer Jul 24 '26

I've noticed this, did people conveniently forget that this guy ran a campaign on "getting a deal with Trump" and that he was the one who was "best equipped to handle him" ?

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u/Lumindan Jul 24 '26

The goal post has shifted to "no one can deal with Trump" when it's brought up (including some interesting interpretation of elbows up).

Ironically Pierres entire point was exactly what people are now using to defend Carney, that we work around trump and diversify our resources and trade systems. (Let's also just ignore that every party in Canada stood up against trump but I digress).

The bridge debacle is really telling tbh. Granted Canadian voters have gold fish memory so I doubt it'll stay relevant (not to mention the hilarious slant by our media, don't get me started on that)

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u/Lumindan Jul 21 '26

I think it's a mixture of people not understanding basic economics (people saying we can divest from the US, which is nutty btw), people who treat politics like team sports and a pinch of "we are not American" smugness and there we are.

Combine that with the team sports mentality and everything is a personal attack.

People will turn a blind eye to the government passing draconian spy bills and running pointless gun grabs because they're "winning".

It'd gonna be a hot minute until people wake up and realize how bad they've let things slide. The one upside is that historically this always happens, just when is the concern.

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u/WeightedDips95 Jul 21 '26

I think we passed the point of no return. I don’t think Canada can be saved at this point. Ironically enough for all the new “Canadian nationalist”, they’ve all but ensured the collapse of Canada. 

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u/Lumindan Jul 24 '26

I do think the pendulum will swing back. When though? That's thats a hard answer.

Quality of life needs to dip even further tbh, historically Canadians live to vote out governments and blame their issues on previous establishments.

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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC Jul 25 '26

Quality of life needs to dip even further tbh

That or to put this in Reddit complaint terms: 1/3 of the electorate will need to naturally reach their end of life so the people who are alive and well, working, and who are actually suffering as most don't have assets or own homes, can vote in government that will work towards fixing 10+ years of Liberal malfeasance since most people under 50, are more concerned with the cost of living than some walking talking idiot down south...

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u/jwubadubdub Jul 25 '26

This would be great in a static environment with a growing domestic population. Unfortunately the same powers that rely on blue hairs for votes are importing replacements, and the levels of import remain extremely elevated.

The only thing being built at "unimaginable speeds" are ethnic voting blocs forever grateful to the party that lifted them out of the mire. Erskine-smith fell to that double edged sword.

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u/2Puppers4Sale Boating Enthusiast Jul 26 '26

Not so sure, a lot of Canadian subreddits which are frequented by non boomers keep calling the Conservatives a fifth column for MAGA and PP is the second coming of Trump/Hitler and that Carney is a genius who can do no wrong.

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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC Jul 26 '26

Blued hair communist from Reddit make a very small percentage of the voting population compared to the boomers.

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u/jwubadubdub Jul 24 '26

Wexit 🤷

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u/RydNightwish Jul 22 '26

Brother, Carney will go full belka on the country and the smooth brained masses in ON and QC will be convinced it was a 4D chess play that truly showed trump whats up.

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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC Jul 25 '26 edited Jul 25 '26

Worst part is Premiers like Ford are actively considering doing things that will fuck the entirety of Canada and not just Ontario... With the recent crap, I would not surprise me if Ford cuts water/electricity exports to New York and Michigan, all for the sake on riding on the elbows up (the ass) momentum from the low IQ electorate in the 905 and Ottawa areas, given his polling numbers have tanked... Then of course, he will likely back down when Trump threatens with even higher tariffs, or maybe the elbows up psychosis will keep him firm as the whole country suffers because of one retard in Ontario.