r/canadaguns • u/WILD_Hawkeye9 • May 20 '26
News / Politics / Activism Rash of Recent Police Actions Against Firearms/drugs/gangs
Is anyone else pissed off by all the recent news of police stopping firearm smuggling, illegal firearms, drug busts, etc.?
Liberals have been soft on crime for their entire modern existence, catch and release, embarrassingly short sentences, and so many other policies we've complained about for decades. Well now all of a sudden they're making busts left, right, and center.
After decades of campaigning on community safety, they know their asses are finally on the line and they have to produce objective data that shows their absolute farce of a "buyback" made even the smallest dent in gun crime.
So now they're going to do all the things we've begged them for for decades, cracking down on weapon smuggling. Then they're going to attribute that reduction in crime, (that anyone with 2 braincells to rub together has known the solution was curbing illegal firearms) to taking guns away from us "dangerous and unhinged" firearms owners. Then theyre going to use that data as the basis to take the next bite out of private firearm ownership.
They're going to manufacture the data they need, by taking the steps we all know needed to be done, only to blatantly and fraudulently misrepresent that data to attack us even further....
It's just so tiresome, and predictable... and the liberal voters of this country can't be trusted to look at anything with even a modicum of critical thought.
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u/dirkdiggler2011 May 20 '26
How do you connect recent busts of firearm snuggling to more reason to turn up the heat on legal firearms owners?
You even say going after smuggling and gangs is what we want them to do. If anything it shows that we are not the problem.
They aren't cooking the numbers ffs. They just busted a string of shit rats recently and it made the news.
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 20 '26
And you trust they will be honest with cause and effect? That they won't politicize the data?
Tightening the border will lower crime, we all know this. Then i can guarantee you when we see those numbers come down, the only talking point will be about look at this steep decline in violent crime as soon as we confiscated all these guns. They won't even acknowledge changes in policing, in sentencing, the real reasons that lead to those numbers. Then its well this first confiscation worked so well we need to take it further.
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u/dirkdiggler2011 May 21 '26
You are painting yourself as someone doesn't trust the police or the government.
This is the stereotype that the non firearm owning public looks at as a nut.
You're not helping. You're actually harming our cause and I am thinking you should like not own any firearms.
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 21 '26
You're absolutely right i dont trust the government. Trust is a two way street, what has our government done in the last 11 years to show they're worthy of being trusted? How many campaign promises have they kept? They dont even look after their own voter base, how could i ever expect them to care about someone who doesnt vote for them, from a historically blue riding.
Honestly i cant imagine anyone trusting any government any further than they could throw them.
I dont know why you think i have a problem with the police. 95% of cops are great people, who genuinely want to make their communities better. Are there bad apples? Sure, there are anywhere, but thats the exception not the rule. There are lots of bad apples in the firearm community, any group numbering in the millions will have then, does that make the whole community bad?
In case you haven't noticed, we've already been labed the problem, the villains. A not insignificant percentage of this country hates us, that sentiment is entirely driven for political gain by a government who hates us.
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u/gamercast1337 May 21 '26
But hes right. The government fudges numbers all the time to show what they want. In their eyes our guns sre the same as criminals, so going after criminals = law abiding citizens guns with the buyback.
Also by November 1st all of us will also be on that criminal list anyway so, they will have even less work to make that distinction.
To them, going after a drug seller who has an illegal pistol, gets arrested (of course let out on bond with a promise not to do it again its the canadian way) is the exact same as the target audience of the most law abiding group in the country and worth spending 2 billion on, even though that drug seller with the illegal pistol cant use this gun buyback program because his pistol is illegal and he has no PAL.
The fact that YOU wouldnt think they woulsnt do this is the weird part. Its the government. They absolutely would and do.
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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 May 20 '26
I mean the police have always been busting them, it's just that the judges let them out again. Just the way the system works here.
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 20 '26
Id bet almost anything thats about to change, if crime statistics don't go down the liberals will not be able to justify the spending. I don't think they can slight of hand their way out of this reckless spending when so many people in this country are one unexpected cost away from needing to choose which bills get paid and which don't.
It was easy to justify the predatory practices and bans when it wasn't directly costing money.
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 20 '26 edited May 20 '26
Dont get me wrong, I want our police forces to be making our communities safer. Its just knowing that they've sat on their hands for decades not doing anything, how many lives/families have been ruined, waiting until it was politically advantageous to stop crime and then using that as a politcal nightstick to beat us again and again.
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u/WhatIsThisLif3 May 21 '26
Police priorities are a mix of funding and community indicators showing need. Mostly municipal government control; provincial governments can step in if they choose to, or if it's a provinical police force. The federal government has no control over local police or what Police Chiefs put their resources into—exception being the RCMP in their federal policing capacity and CBSA.
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u/cumbrad May 20 '26
It’s not more busts, it’s more news coverage. They’re desperate.
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 20 '26
This is the bane of the majority of our country's issues, a national media thats nothing more than a political rag. That will happily be paid off to report whatever the current government wants reported.
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u/Enough_Challenge7264 May 21 '26
Wait until November when everyone with an OIC prohib dumps it on the black market. The cops think they have problems with 9mm Glocks...wait until these peckerheads get ahold of real rifles.
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u/TarkovSundays May 21 '26
That’s their plan all along… gives them an even bigger reason to come after us. they can’t reasonably expect people to just lose thousands and thousands of dollars so what are people gonna resort too. I was planning on selling a couple of my guns before the ban and got “stuck” with a couple although im not too mad I’d honestly rather have fair value but I would never hand my gun into the government for compensation. Ever. Morally I would rather take the loss of money. They were offering $400 less on each gun as well. All of this has been set in plan for years. digital ID. Mass migration. De arming of the populace. Look at UK,AUS,GER,FIN pretty much all the “top” countries. Gonna be crazy to see what the world will look like in 10 years
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u/samwisegamja May 20 '26
Your “critical thought” has a lot of assumptions. Its a problem to fight crime now to you because they are a liberal government? The police have been around regardless of the political party in power they are doing their job. Quote me an article that attributes these recent busts to the OIC’s.
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 20 '26
Thats... not even remotely what i said...
I said they're going to start a tough on crime policy to justify their unfettered spending on a project entirely crafted to buy votes in quebec and toronto.
Then when the solutions that every police chief, security expert, or any decently competent citizen in the country has been advocating for for decades works, they'll pat themselves on the back that their gun policy is the sole reason that violent crime statistics drop.
Then if it "worked so well the first time", why wouldn't they campaign on taking it further during the next election cycle?
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u/samwisegamja May 20 '26
So whats making you assume that they will solely attribute their gun policy as the reason that violent crime stats dropped? Are they patting themselves on the back with the recent busts that these happened due to their gun grabs?
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 20 '26
Whats changed all of a sudden that would give them a reason to suddenly crack down the border smuggling thats been a plague for decades?
Trade issues with the us? Thats been going on since the first trump administration (usmca debacle)
A new majority government? The liberals had strong majorities before, and tougher borders was never going to be an issue that would be a wedge issue between any of the political parties. They all wouldve supported it in some form, if they wanted it done it would've been done.
As for patting themselves on the back, the confiscation hasnt happened yet, but believe me the voters they're trying to target will have long forget all about this uptick in arrests at the border by the time the liberals need to pull out crime statistics to campaign and justify their spending.
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u/WILD_Hawkeye9 May 20 '26
I want our police and our legal system to work, i want criminals to fear our justice system. I just wanted them to be doing it for the last 3 or 4 decades too, not just now when it feels like its only being done to satisy political reasons.
Cutting down on crime is a good thing, it always will be, i would never say otherwise
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u/KAYD3N1 May 20 '26
It's also because the US is calling Canada out for being weak on all it, including border security.
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u/FireteamOrcale May 20 '26
I mean the government was already asked for data on how the gun buyback would affect crime by the Canadain Tax Payers Federation and public safety came back and said there isn’t any data that they have that shows it will. Also most police chiefs are saying that all these guns are illegal guns that are coming over the border and pointing to that as the issue and how easy it is for them to be smuggled over instead of just blaming gun owners. It seems like things are slowly starting to change and regular people are starting to realize legal guns aren’t the issue. It’ll take time but slowly I think more people are waking up.