r/canadaguns • u/Big-Guitar-1979 • May 15 '26
News / Politics / Activism Lending Program
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u/Big-Guitar-1979 May 15 '26
What about Ontario
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u/thehuntinggearguy 3gun, Mapleseed, YouTuber, SlamFire Radio, Revolver-hater May 15 '26
It's early on in this, so far I've only seen AB & SK doing it.
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u/jmz-jmz May 15 '26
If someone can do it in AB, not sure why they wouldn’t be able to do it in ON…unless it’s up to the provincial CFO maybe?
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u/HatchingCougar May 15 '26 edited May 15 '26
You got it
The provincial CFO has to be onboard with it.
SK and AB broke the (liberal) mold for appointing CFOs and actually appointed someone who is somewhat pro firearms to the position. Where as it’s been nearly a universal rule for decades that the role was normally held by someone who was an anti
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u/conanap May 15 '26
I know we like to shit on Ontario (rightfully so), but our current CFO actually seems pretty chill? They were very reasonable with my friend’s medical stuff, and we also saw them approve the revolver 22lr a few days ago, even though logically there’s no discipline where that makes sense.
This won’t happen in Ontario because the OCFO has stated their position is that we can’t advertise to rent a pistol (but you can still do it if you find a “friend”), but they’re not as antigun as we all try to make them out to be.
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u/CanadAR15 May 16 '26
Somewhat pro firearms? I think Dr. Bryant would rightfully take that as an insult.
Dr. Bryant is absolutely a firearms enthusiast and is the Iain McCallum (forgotten weapons) of Nambu pistols. Here’s her website.
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u/picatdim May 16 '26
Ian McCollum*
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u/CanadAR15 May 16 '26
Holy crap. I searched the name on his site to verify when I wrote that comment. Turns out he has an article on his website about the author Iain McCallum who also writes books about guns but is not him 😂
Didn’t expect that!
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u/Illustrious_Gene_284 May 15 '26
I recently took the restricted course. Instructor said you can “borrow” a hand gun from your friend so long as they write a letter, temp transfer is approved, etc etc. then it’s up to your friend to keep lending and submitting approval. Does anyone know if this is true? I could call CFO but I was hopeful there was a link to read up first. Edit: I’m in Ontario
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u/macmuaythai May 15 '26
It was my understanding that this borrowing mechanism is only allowed for 6 months and can’t generally be renewed over and over
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u/rastamasta45 May 15 '26
Honestly I’m so happy and proud of these businesses finding more ways to give law abiding Canadians what they want. This is an objective good for the community, freaking love it!
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u/kookiemaster May 15 '26
But it is kind of silly that there is a need to find these workarounds or all of a sudden people joining competitive shooting, just for the privilege of being able to purchase a handgun.
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u/rastamasta45 May 15 '26
Of course I’m not happy it’s come to this, but in the fact of liberal rule for the last 11 years I’m glad this exists over nothing
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u/WeightedDips95 May 15 '26
Interesting. So it's like the Australia model more or less. Sad its come to this, but its nice for people to get a chance to play around with handguns. To be fair, with them being registered and all, its not like you ever fully owned them anyway.
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u/OutAndAboutAussie May 16 '26
What do you mean Australian model? I own and keep at home my CZ SP-01 in Australia our licensing of handguns was very similar to Canada before you guys changed it.
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u/WeightedDips95 May 16 '26
I thought yours was way more onerous. Like you have to attend a certain amount of shoots and pretty much qualify to keep it on a yearly basis. Whereas up here before you didnt need to be in competitions or ever even shoot the gun. Some provinces required a range membership and others didnt.
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u/OutAndAboutAussie May 18 '26 edited May 18 '26
So the way we could get one was the same in terms of licensing but yes you have to do a certain amount of comps per year to keep it and that changed based on state in my state its 6 comps and 4 practices a year (comp and prac are the same its just what you mark it down as) but in Qld its 6 comps and what they do is called a rolling comp where you shoot 6 bowling pins with an RO as fast as you can and that gets scored with everyone else that same week. While it sounds like a fuck around you would pretty much go and shoot 10 times a year anyway so its not a massive deal for me but it still deters people which I guess the point. You can also get exemptions to the comp requirements but that's a year by year exemption which was the case all throughout covid due to the fucked lock downs we had here.
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u/Kid-On-Reddit- May 16 '26
Yall guys get ruger chargers and put stocks on them? And, pdw kits on handguns?
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u/OutAndAboutAussie May 16 '26
Depends on the state because gun laws aren’t federal just state based unless it’s imports. QLD doing that isn’t regulated VIC you need a permit but can definitely be done. Pretty common with pc chargers now.
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u/WeightedDips95 May 16 '26
Wasnt there a couple AUGs you could buy on a pistol license?
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u/OutAndAboutAussie May 18 '26
Just the one but I've heard of some here and there. That was in my state under a Cat H Cat 2 which is for collectors, dealers, movie armorers and museums. In Qld you could own it under a club shooting Cat H but you have to be ready to challenge QPOL in court because they will denied it as soon as they realise what they have licensed it. They did it with AR15 pistols that were made in AU and a certain someone got licensed for a M1 Garand on a Cat B which is a manual action license (it was semi-auto). A guy won a court appeal to keep his handguns in Qld which included (all semi-auto) Uzi, Mac-10, CZ- scorpion, a Tec-9 and a .22LR AK so thanks to him club shooters can own them but QPOL reclassify shit they don't like as soon as they know about it. The Ruger PC Charger and Charger in .22LR are on the line but are fine for now. In Vic we don't have a lot stopping collectors from owning cool shit which is what Cat H Cat 2 is, including that the AUG was you mentioned. A lot of handgun's that aren't classed as club legal, such as an AR-15 handgun, a Sig 550 handgun and a bunch of Uzi's, MAC10's and CZ-Scorpions with a couple others I don't know about but I have heard of MP5 that were once rifles but now pistols in some collections. Our import laws stop us now from importing shit that looks cool but would otherwise be a legal handgun so what's here is here.
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u/WeightedDips95 May 18 '26
Neat. Ive always curiously obeserved aussie gun culture. Your situation sucks(ours isnt much better now), but its neat to see how people get along under such restrictions. God speed
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u/ActCompetitive1171 May 15 '26
How are they able to acquire the firearm in the first place since (i assume) transfers are prohibited to them as well?
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u/Baelnorn May 15 '26
Transfers were only closed for individuals. Businesses can still get new registrations issued for handguns. Including purchasing firearms from individuals.
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u/Hot_Cheesecake_905 May 16 '26
"Or the country"... does that mean they can do inter-provincial loans?!
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May 15 '26 edited May 16 '26
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u/FromDeepestFathom May 15 '26
Sure if you haven’t read anything about it and conjecture your uninformed opinion then yeah there’s flaws
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u/thehuntinggearguy 3gun, Mapleseed, YouTuber, SlamFire Radio, Revolver-hater May 15 '26
We had Ken on Slam Fire talking about this and giving more detail.
Youtube version (Starts at 1:04:22)
Or podcast version if you want to listen while at work (starts at 1:05:00)
tl dr; you buy a handgun, his business loans it to you for 1 year increments. You need RPAL, range membership, and IPSC membership.
More details: this is also an avenue to kinda inherit guns. ie: he buys your dead dad's handguns, then loans it to you. It's also another avenue to sell your unwanted handguns for more than a slap in the face.