r/canadaguns • u/SKSFan79 • Mar 19 '26
News / Politics / Activism Liberals quietly cut money available for compensation in "buyback" by nearly $200 million
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=6EhXUU2OV6w&t=3sAccording to Calibre Magazine looking at Treasury Board documents,, the Liberals have apparently cut the money available for compensation in their "buyback" from $250 million to $64.8 million, with no notice to current or future participants.
We tried to to tell everyone their guns would be seized and they'd get nothing.....
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u/GokuBlank Mar 19 '26
Getting my RPAL in 2 weeks, hoping to fuck that the government gets some sense and reverses some of this insane lawmaking that's happened.
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u/Murray3-Dvideos Mar 19 '26
Its the Liberals, they will never reverse it. grandfathering at best is maybe what will happen.
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u/GokuBlank Mar 19 '26
There is definitely a path to reversal, the laws are based on aesthetics and looks and not function. Nothing that is based in ludicrous rhetoric will ever be permanent.
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u/Murray3-Dvideos Mar 19 '26
Canadian gun owners have always lived under ludicrous rhetoric.... that's why for 30 years you could own a SVT 40 but not a Dragunov, a M1a but not a FAL, a BRS-99 but not an a UZI. The Liberals are physically incapable of letting it go. And the Conservatives fail to reverse things to the fullest due to PR fatigue.
There is no dimension where a liberal leader could be seen putting AR-15s and the like back on the shelves again. Best you can hope for as a new shooter is no new bans, some C21 compliant semis, and maybe suppressor legalization under a CPC majority.
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u/adhq Mar 19 '26
Suppressor legalization will only ever happen if non gun owners revolt against the forced full-blast noise from hunters' guns and "demand" that the government legalize suppressors. I would personally be stoked if they start by at least legalizing them for airguns. It still amazes me (not positively) - every time I think about it - that even airguns have to have the factory baffles removed before being legal for sale in Canada. It's friggin' airguns, you morons!
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u/Newftube Mar 20 '26
Let's be realistic lol. They won't legalize suppressors for any reason. They'll just ban hunting rifles over insert meaningless arbitrary decibel level here.
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u/GokuBlank Mar 19 '26
C21 should have been balled up and used to clean a pigs asshole years ago. I genuinely think a large part of the issue is that the anti-gun community is being headed by survivors of the Polytechnique school shooting, and with the southern example of wild West gun laws it's easy to provide fact based evidence for more gun control. However banning guns based on looks is just absolute lunacy and anyone who saw that and voted it through with full understanding should be checked for a brain worm. I am ALL for gun control and responsible gun ownership, it is just super annoying and frustrating that direction is headed. It isn't about responsible gun ownership, it's about no gun ownership. I really think that a tax stamp system would work so well here where if you want prohibited firearms you simply have to pay the government X amount of money for a stamp in order to own that and use that legally. Same with suppressors extended magazines and everything else a firearm enthusiast would want to own and use. That way it's more monitored, the gov't makes money off of the gun owners and their wanton need for tacticool pewpews. Hell I would happily pay a couple thousand a year if it meant I could go to a range and fire a gun I actually want, the way it was actually designed to be fired. I honestly think the fact that they are not monetizing it is absolute Insanity, there's a market there even if it's small and the increased taxation revenue in each province or territory would be worth it because it's going in place something that doesn't exist. Anything over a zero is a win. Although I do recognize that the people that tend to make it to higher places in government also tend to not have the most intelligent view on some things.
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u/some_guy2024 Mar 19 '26
That is one of the dumbest takes I’ve ever read here. Begging the govt to charge for tax stamps to use what we’ve already safely used/owned for years? 🤮 The fact you think that US policy gives anyone “fact based evidence” for more gun regulation up here when we’ve never had fact based regulations is just comical. When will people like you get it through your heads? The LPC hates gun owners and cares not one iota about us. They will happily regulate gun ownership out of existence, will not conoensate anyone and if you don’t comply they will ruin your life. This is what is currently ongoing, how you fail to see this is just wild.
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u/Longjumping_Deer3006 Mar 20 '26
Funny how they ban based on scary looks but yet it's perfectly legal to buy without a license a flamethrower that is absolutely terrifying.
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u/Lumindan Mar 19 '26
grandfathering at best is maybe what will happen.
Grandfathering is a trap. It's confiscation over a longer period of time
They'll get you to willingly register and you can bet your ass it won't be with use and they'll rug pull it down the road. We've seen this episode before.
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u/HankHippoppopalous Mar 20 '26
Yup. Have you seen the smoking ban in Australia ? Thats literally how they did it.
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u/Murray3-Dvideos Mar 19 '26
Indeed, but at least it gives a potential Conservative majority the chance to implement " with use".
It's not unrealistic considering it's already where we are at with handguns.
All we are left with rn is no compensation and major legal liability. Grandfathering with future use is the only realistic outcome short of full on Tin Foil Hat grade stuff.
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u/Lumindan Mar 19 '26
Indeed, but at least it gives a potential Conservative majority the chance to implement " with use".
That's not how that will work. Grandfathering closes the book on that part of ownership entirely. It'd be the final fuck you moment at arms ownership.
It's not unrealistic considering it's already where we are at with handguns.
A nebulous and death by a thousand cuts level of ownership? Yeah I guess. Handguns are mia for majority of folks and the work required to amend c21 is gonna suck.
You don't want grandfathering. You think you do but youre wrong. At least being stuck in the grey zone of extended amnesty means you can readdress the issue down the road.
Plus registration leads to confiscation and the first step of grandfathering is, guess what? Building a list of newly registered items.
The conservatives will have an easier time if we don't get grandfathering.
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u/Murray3-Dvideos Mar 19 '26
I think Carney wants closure to the matter tho. Amnesty extensions don't give him that. So I doubt we'll see it.
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u/Lumindan Mar 19 '26
If Carney wanted closure he had ample opportunities to do so. I don't understand why people keep repeating this point as if it's fact
Every single time he's had a chance to kill the program, he's doubled down on it. During the election, after the election z during the budget, during the multiple house sessions, after the leaked comments by his own public safety minister. He has committed to it EVERY single time. Hell, he was advising Trudeau on matters before hand.
At what point do you stop giving him the benefit of the doubt?
They'll keep kicking the can down the road because if he closes it, he admits that they've spent decades targeting the wrong people and doing nothing but burn tax money for votes and the illusion of public safety.
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u/Murray3-Dvideos Mar 19 '26
I didn't mean closure in our favor. I think it was an unfullfilled promise Trudeau made that Carneys election campaign saw as a valid vote gainer rather then loser. They want to try and thread the needle by appeasing Montreal enough to not lose their vote, but also not piss off tax payers by blowing billions on a proper buyback. Carneys got bigger fish to fry, hence why hes said very little regarding the matter and just left all the PR damage to big cheek Gary to absorb.
The "controversial" guns are more or less banned, the "promised buyback" ran its course (statistically, it failed and wasted a billion), but they'll rely on dodging that subject since they're experts at that. The only remaining issue will be dealing with the suspected non compliance with formally NR firearms. They'll either ignore it, or if it becomes bad enough PR, they'll look for something along the lines of "grandfathering."
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u/Longjumping_Deer3006 Mar 20 '26
Can you buy grandfathered guns or no?
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u/Lumindan Mar 20 '26
It really depends how they'd go about it.
I highly suspect they'll just rot in the safe with zero use options.
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u/bigT689 Mar 19 '26
If you’re waiting for the government to make sense you’re gonna be waiting a long time
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u/GokuBlank Mar 19 '26
I have hope that we will get someone who has more common sense into our politics to manage gun crime and responsible gun ownership in a way that makes total sense. Oh I've got my Russian all matching serial# SKS don't you worry lmfao.
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u/Unfair-Company7135 Mar 20 '26
They won't. You wasted a money on your RPAL. Its an unpopular opinion but if you didn't have it before the pistol bans, it's about as useful as tits on a turtle.
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Mar 19 '26
If they do, there won't be any inventory left. I've got a 6 figure savings sitting and waiting for the day the flood gates open. And brother, I will be feasting.
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u/LongdayShortrelief Mar 24 '26
Damn, What do you do for work?
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Mar 24 '26 edited Mar 24 '26
Millwright/machinist. I make good money. However, I'm old. My parents passed many years ago and I inherited their estate.
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u/PEWPEVVPEVV Mar 19 '26
Rug pull for those naive enough to register for buyback
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u/EvidenceFamiliar7535 Mar 30 '26
I was about to do it and say they wanted to give me 550 cad for my wk180c that’s a 2k gun after tax. So what’s the alternative
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u/yourunclegord Mar 19 '26
Wonder where they diverted all the other money
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u/Lumindan Mar 19 '26
Consultant fees, they probably didn't tender it well either.
Public safety has full time staff that apparently work on this part of the portfolio, so it's mostly government inefficiency and wasted time.
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u/WeightedDips95 Mar 20 '26
Gotta love how when faced with either paying Canadians for their legal purchased property, scrapping this whole r*garded thing, and continued funnelling of tax money to a bunch of useless glorified adult daycare make-work civil servants, they chose the latter
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u/VariousCheezez Mar 20 '26
It's an easy way for them to send some money to their friends and return some favors, they dont give a flying fuck about Canadians.
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u/dirkdiggler2011 Mar 20 '26
The next dirty trick will be to tax firearms and ammo with a new fee on top of sales tax as well as increase licensing costs.
We'll essentially be funding our own demise.
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u/thxxx1337 Mar 19 '26
3k for a couple of type 81s.
Here's your $4
Gee, why is no one declaring? Don't they know it's the only way to get compensation?
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u/Oilmoneyy Mar 19 '26
What?! Liberals lied about a policy that they had?! No wayyyy
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u/WeightedDips95 Mar 20 '26
Im not a single-issue voter. Im sure this is a one-off, and they comport themselves with absolute integrity in every other realm
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u/visibl3ghost AB Mar 19 '26
With no budget, I'll bet that means that the end of amnesty in October will have to be reconsidered.
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u/superH1pp0 Mar 19 '26
That’s like assuming the government is reasonable and with common sense, which might be too much to ask….
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u/NotCriminallyRespons Mar 19 '26
No they just steal your shit and demand you turn it over for zero or $2 lol they say thanks for telling us what you have, we made a good faith effort to pay people $2 but we are out of cash because we spent a billion paying our friends I mean contractors money to implement something they never had a clue about and was a very steep and expensive learning curve for us, now we are out of money so you better hand in for zero and comply or your in trouble ! Remember we know what you have because you told us ! They are constantly moving the goal posts but in liberal land that’s fine. lol 😂
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u/saneboy Mar 19 '26
"I'm shocked!" said no one who's been paying attention.
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u/prosper_0 Mar 19 '26
"there's a gun buyback thing? What's that?" says the 'normies' who don't care one way or the other. "doesn't affect me personally and immediately? Don't care"
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u/Admirable-Site7256 Mar 19 '26
And those are exactly the type of people that the Liberals are counting on to fall for their nonsense.
Ignorant, fearful people that are just a little bit vindictive towards anyone who isn't like them.
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u/rastamasta45 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
I’m honestly trying to figure out what the end game is here? Try to steal as many guns as possible without paying anyone and then hope all these people who have the means to be armed don’t get angry? Like how does this work without serious blow back
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u/Murray3-Dvideos Mar 19 '26
That's my thinking partially as well. They really have walked an awkward line on the matter. And to a degree that will ultimately piss off both sides in end. Wasting a billion dollars, stealing from and or incriminating literally a million plus Canadians.
With Carney being praised as a fiscal genius, and Canadas savior. Surely, with enough bad publicity this buyback fiasco could easily go down as his biggest political and financial failure.
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u/NotCriminallyRespons Mar 19 '26
Now you’re thinking like a liberal ! It’s perfect ! Everyone will comply or they are a criminal, they pay zero and score political points with a small minority in Quebec and if you don’t comply your the one in trouble who gets there life ruined by “the law”
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u/superH1pp0 Mar 19 '26
I wonder if they want to create the “participation is so high that we ran out of money” narrative when the actual number is comically low
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u/NIBLZ_HAMSTR Mar 19 '26
They never really intended to pay anyone.. especially not what the guys are actually worth.
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u/floppy_breasteses Mar 19 '26
Oh, my heavens, I am so, so surprised. What an absolute shock. Who could have guessed?
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u/Perfect_Diamond_1128 Mar 19 '26
just glad all the spineless cowards who declared their guns wont be getting shit in compensation. good.
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u/floppy_breasteses Mar 20 '26
Serves them right. Standing up to the government means we need to stand together. I hope those weaklings enjoy the pat on the head because that's all they're getting.
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u/NotCriminallyRespons Mar 19 '26
He didn’t mention how they got 22 000 suckers to submit info before they cut down the compensation to $2 if there lucky or zero if there not lol 😂
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u/AppearanceAfraid Mar 19 '26
We already knew no one was getting paid but jeezus they really are gona scam everyone
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u/willysnax Mar 19 '26
So what everyone do if you lived in Sask? My understand is you have to do the federal application first and then apply for Moe’s special storage permit. And I think its all supposed to be done before the end of March.
At first, I thought it may have been a good move on SK’s part but now I don’t like the fact you still have to sign up with the fed program. Then you’re on their “volunteer” compliance list.
Unless I’m misunderstanding something, I don’t know how I feel about that part.
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u/Maleficent_Ad_2259 Mar 19 '26
They did spent around 100 millions for putting tampons in woman and men restroom.
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u/Admirable-Site7256 Mar 19 '26 edited Mar 19 '26
Honestly, you should probably just stop with this extraneous, hyperbolic nonsense.
We're trying to fight a policy that defies all logic and common sense and these kind of arguments do absolutely nothing to help us.
Also, use some proper grammar if you're trying to make a point. Your comment is an embarrassing mess....
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u/Maleficent_Ad_2259 Mar 19 '26
Lol im gonna stay right here and keep fucking up grammar.
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u/R4ID on Mar 20 '26
We're trying to fight a policy that defies all logic and common sense
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Tampons in the mens restroom.
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u/Longjumping_Deer3006 Mar 20 '26
Might come in handy to plug bullet wounds and as a fire starter.
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u/Nilotaus Mar 20 '26
[tampons] Might come in handy to plug bullet wounds
Absolutely fucking terrible advice, this gets people injured further or even killed. Paper towels & tissues are safer for wound packing if there's no gauze available.
Modern tampons are very different from the ones made during WWI, the way they absorb blood is the exact opposite of what you need to stop bleeding in a wound and can introduce friable fibers into the blood stream. Any clots that form will be undone when the tampon is removed and will make bleeding control on the surgery table harder than it needs to be.
Anyone who tells you that wound packing with tampons is a good idea is either an idiot that should have their credentials questioned, or in the case of the Russian MOD for example, has close to zero regard for your well-being.
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u/Longjumping_Deer3006 Mar 20 '26
Thanks for the info. I do understand the stupidity of packing tampons into bullet wounds and where I first heard about this was from the Russian MOD.
I just ment it as sarcasm or dark humor.
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u/Admirable-Site7256 Mar 20 '26
Okay, and? If some people are too fragile to stand the sight of women's hygiene products, thats their problem.
Stop projecting it on the rest of us and making this community look like a bunch of incel chuds.
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u/R4ID on Mar 20 '26
I find it ironic you invent a strawman about things I never said and then claim I must be projecting....
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I can see discussing things with you involves no common sense so enjoy ur friday
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u/Admirable-Site7256 Mar 20 '26
I mean you're the one discussing women's tampons in a sub about guns sooo who is the one making strawman?
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u/R4ID on Mar 20 '26
thank you for confirming you dont know what a strawman even is. Please do some reading and enjoy ur friday.
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u/goshathegreat Mar 20 '26 edited Mar 20 '26
I have been saying that they’ll do this for months, this has been their plan the entire time…
You know you’re cooked when even liberal voters are recognizing that this confiscation program is an egregious failure, and that it doesn’t address the real cause of gun violence. I’m just praying that they don’t try to weasel they’re way out of this mess by declaring the ~30k guns seized a success, and moving on like they didn’t just make hundreds of thousands, if not millions of gun owners criminals overnight…
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u/ArcticSnowMonkey Mar 20 '26
I just got an email from the RCMP saying that March 31st is the last day to apply for the buyback money so maybe almost no one has done it so they are assuming they won't need most of that money they had allocated for it?
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u/Prestigious_Fig4800 Mar 21 '26
Of course they did. HOPEFULLY the Supreme Court gives us back our Property Rights
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u/Da_Moor Apr 01 '26
Anyone expecting a knock at the door? What would that look like? A warrant to search the house?
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u/Inner_Abrocoma8792 Apr 30 '26
I imagine this number reflects the staggering low declaration compliance. They expected 135k guns and got like 67k. Probably need the other 200 million to send rent a cops door to door all summer
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u/kingbain Mar 19 '26
No links are provided to their sources.
I think buddy doesn't know how to read year end reports. They are probably planning to spend 64.8 million for 2025-2026 year.
That's just one year.... This is a nothing burger.
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u/CalibreMag Mar 19 '26
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u/kingbain Mar 19 '26
Yup those are budgetary estimates for next next year. It's not the total cost of the program it's what they project will be spent for 2026-27 on the program.
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u/CalibreMag Mar 20 '26
Those are estimated spending authorities for the 2026 Fiscal Year, which begins on April 1st, 2026.
And the video above is not about the program's total cost. It's about the amount of available compensation being dramatically reduced from the $250M promised in January.
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u/Wolfxskull Mar 19 '26
Just scrap the damn thing already