r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Mar 02 '26

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 03 '26

Anybody else fucking hate most boomers in this country? Their geriatric asses ruined our nation for, what? To feel good about themselves? Not just about guns but everything. They complain they arent getting enough money from the government and then shoot down any kind of job creation, demand more immigrants for wage slavery and wage suppression, and everything else. What are we to do besides waiting for them to, know, not be here anymore? Do we actually try a youth party or something ?fight them at their own game?

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u/rastamasta45 Mar 03 '26

Boomers sold out all generations after them for the best life. Now they reap the riches and we pay for it, our children will pay for it and our grandchildren will pay for it. It’s actually wild.

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Mar 03 '26

Remember the “occupy wall street” protests and how liberals and leftist all hated investing bankers? I don’t understand how the young liberals voted for Carney.

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u/ultragigasimp Mar 03 '26

I’m in university and know a lot of obviously liberal students. Most of them go off the assumption that “Peepee” is going to ban women, LGBTQ+, abortions, and minorities. Anyone who leans right is “brainwashed” in their eyes. I have no idea why these seemingly smart people are so easy to trick

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u/Lumindan Mar 04 '26

What you’re describing isn’t that surprising when you zoom out and look at how powerful narrative control has become (which is funny because the majority of talking points used against the conservatives aren't even true lol).

Mainstream outlets like that get state funding don’t just report politics anymore, they frame it. When the same framing is repeated across television, online headlines, campus discussions, and then amplified through algorithms on platforms like TikTok and Instagram, it becomes the “default reality” for a lot of young people, which is unfortunate.

Politics today isn’t about policy nuance; it’s team sports. Red team vs blue team. If you’re on Team Liberal, then the opposing side isn’t just wrong! They’re evil, regressive, anti-women, anti-LGBTQ, anti-minority. That framing sticks because it’s emotional, not analytical. And once politics becomes moralized like that, dissent equals heresy. Say what you will about the Liberals but they have a stupidly good campaign machine and they've managed to weaponize feelings which is incredible to be frank.

The Liberal Party of Canada has been particularly effective at branding. They’ve tied themselves to identity politics and social virtue in a way that makes opposing them feel like opposing equality itself. On university campuses where social belonging matters a lot that branding is powerful. When professors, student unions, and media all lean the same direction, it reinforces the perception that there’s only one “educated” view, hell we even see it on Reddit, even folks on this sub shy from discussing firearms in real life because it's considered a 'no no' topic even though it shouldn't be.

Hell, let's take a look at a VERY relevant point, the firearms confiscation / buyback. Owners know how fucked it is, but the average joe hears about how Carney is 'getting assault style weapons off the streets' and they think "yeah thats cool". A funny thing I hear all the time is "why are gun owners all so politically charged?" and the answer is always "because we fucking have to be otherwise we get cooked".

It’s not that students / most common folks are unintelligent either. It’s that they’re immersed in an environment where one narrative is socially rewarded and the other is socially punished. That’s a powerful incentive structure. Add in algorithm-driven media bubbles, and you get people who genuinely believe catastrophic things about the other side without ever engaging with primary sources or policy details. Look how many people, even people in this very sub parroting the usual "PP BAD" points but they suddenly shrink away when asked which part of the conservative platform they dislike.

When politics becomes identity plus media echo chambers, you don’t need people to think critically, you just need them to stay loyal to the team and that isn't going to change any time soon. The one redeeming factor is that eventually the tide always turns once quality of life dips low enough, history shows that the pendulum always swings, eventually.

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u/WeightedDips95 Mar 05 '26

Thats cool and all but little PP literally didnt even have a platform! Marlaina is a fascist. Carney is a financial genius and is signing deals all around the world and our GDP per capita is sky rocketing and theres so many jobs and houses.

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u/IGnuGnat Mar 06 '26

I see it as a slightly new twist on cults. The Liberals are now a cult. The new twist is the automated nature of algorithms designed to trigger anger and emotions, so we become almost self programming, clicking from outrage to outrage.

The right has become the same sort of creature as a kind of survival tactic. In order for a political movement to compete it has to become an automated, algorithm driven cult

All aspects of life have now become political, there's no escaping it. We need a new tune in, drop out movement

I'm just going to go fishing more often and ride my motorcycle. I'm tired. I don't want to be engaged anymore. I just want some peace and quiet

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u/CountryFine Mar 04 '26

Unfortunately PP does spend a lot of time talking about gender issues as does his cabinet members. If they dropped the identity politics that only appeals to their base they would probably do better.

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u/ultragigasimp Mar 04 '26

I mean I literally am dating another dude and I don’t really think Pierre’s out to get me. I haven’t really seen him say anything I would consider “nasty” within the last decade. I think when he does talk about the genuinely ridiculous stuff going on people spin it how they want to see it, and they wanna see it as the typical “conservative = homophobe”

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u/OxfordTheCat Mar 08 '26

Usually he's just beating the drum on fiscal policy and immigration.

He's beating the drum on it now, now that the election is over, and he can go back to Twitter-tier "policy" and soundbytes.

He was silent on both fronts when it came to the election.

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 04 '26

I wish PP was this super right wing outside the current paradigm liberal/conservative hole where its 2 wings of the same bird, one going the speed limit the other hit the pedal to the floor so hard he broke it off. But PP is like, a liberal from what, 1995? 2005? Hes conserving shit from just a few decades ago. He ain't gonna take a way women's rights, gender issues whatever.  

Come get me when a conservative goes against our current cultural norms and does "taboo" stuff the boomers set up or made mainstream back in the 60s.

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u/ultragigasimp Mar 06 '26

He might not always SAY the most progressive thing, but I agree that he isn’t looking to take away rights. Like I said in an earlier comment, I’m literally a young gay dude and I voted for him. I don’t feel like he wants to do me harm, and I think the people that DO think that are either confused or just got lied to.

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u/OxfordTheCat Mar 08 '26

I mean, it can't be that hard to understand. He literally wrote a book about it to help you. Values.

He's done the MD at Goldman thing, and he advocates staunchly for where it goes wrong, and what it (capitalism) does right. He's a guy that made it to the pinnacle of the finance bro world and now has a vision to correct the mistakes of it.

There is a reason even previously staunch CPC supporters have shifted and voted Liberal.

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u/DarkenemyxXx Mar 03 '26

I can’t think of any other group who claims to love their kids and grandkids so much but are willing to burn any chance they have of a future in the name of what cbc tells them to do. The arrogant “ we’re morally superior “ attitude they carry is beyond my ability to deal with anymore. I immediately write them off as retarded and can’t take anything they say seriously anymore. ( once I find out what kind of boomer they are )

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u/Mrdingus6969 Mar 03 '26

They are literally the first generation ever that is doing better than their kids and even worse is most don't even care.

Every human generation has wanted their kids to do better than them but they are the opposite, it is putrid.

I am thankful my parents are not one of these boomers.

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u/Beneficial-Ride-4475 Mar 04 '26 edited Mar 04 '26

Is that a surprise though? There is a reason for it.

But first, some context!

The 1950s & '60s saw a boom in economic growth and prosperity previously unseen in North America. Motor vehicles became available to everyone, single family homes in ridiculously large (and notably insolvent) suburbs became the norm, refrigeration became more accessible (keep this particular point in mind), etc.

Now those things had their own drawbacks (especially housing), but a cultural shift also occurred.

Being in the land of plenty ment that waste sky rocketed, a lack of appreciation for what you had ment you simply threw away what was "old" for what was new became a prevalent social trait. If it wasn't new, you could say you were successful. If you couldn't display your success, you couldn't flex on your neighbour. Your neighbour, who had gone from community member, to being your social competition effectively overnight. The term "Keeping up with the Joneses" really saw the light of day here.

North America had become culture of excess and the showey display of one's wealth.

Good, if not the best examples of this shift towards excess in all things, actually come from cookbooks. Even in the late 40s, cookbooks still displayed recipes that were within one's means. They were modest, and simple. By the mid 1950s though, all restraint and reasoning had disappeared from cookbooks. This is, funnily enough, typified by the obscenely common appearance of gelatin, and the meteoric rise of truly monstrous abominations like the Spaghetti'O Jello Ring, or the daft Tomato Aspic were birthed into existence.

(If one wishes to curse their eyes and obtain the knowledge of true evil:

https://www.reddit.com/r/ShittyGifRecipes/comments/qyk4m7/spaghettio_jello_ring/

https://www.youtube.com/shorts/rEL9HpF__k8)

Now why was this? Simple, gelatin requires refrigeration. By serving a jello dish, you could flex on your neighbours.

But enough with the examples.

Now, other than me being a pompous history nerd and wanting to show it off, what purpose does this context serve? What does this have to do with boomers?

Well, what kind of mentality or attitude dose it take to maintain such an excessive and showey lifestyle? If you are going to say "be a proper jerk" I'll have to agree.

The environment a child grows up in, and who they are raised by, and the societal philosophy they are exposed to at an early age. Will effect their development and what kind of humans they become. Children are smarter than we give them credit for and pick up on things pretty quick, even subconsciously. If you grew up in a society that valued excess, showing off, having the newest and best thing, proving yourself to be better than your neighbors. Is it any surprise then that a child would pick up on that, and internalized some of it at least?

I'd wager that the reason many boomers are so entitled, arrogant, or selfish, is specifically because they internalized the behavior of their parents and the 1950s/60s society they grew up in. I'd wager that to them, greed, irrational selfishness, showing off, excess of material goods, and looking down on those of lesser economic status, are "entirely normal" behaviors.

To them we are probably the weird ones.

So I'd say no, it shouldn't be a surprise they behave so poorly.

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u/OxfordTheCat Mar 08 '26

The 1950s & '60s saw a boom in economic growth and prosperity previously unseen in North America

It's almost as if all the competing markets, from the UK to Belgium to Moscow to Beijing and Tokyo, had been completely devastated and ravaged by war; leading to an opportunity for unprecedented and unrepeatable growth and prosperity on a short term basis...

... anyone that is trying to sell any type of policy or thematic return to "the prosperity of the four decades after the greatest conflict in human history wiped out the traditional economic powerhouses" is selling the purest of the pure form of snake-oil.

There is a reason for the boom and the unrepeatable amount of prosperity, and short of the rest of the world degrading into catastrophic conflict which somehow leaves all of North America virtually unscathed yet again, it's never happening again.

It is an impossible task to return to the prosperity of the post-war economic circumstances that Canada and the United States enjoyed in the latter half of the 20th century. No policy or government can bring it back.

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u/Beneficial-Ride-4475 Mar 08 '26

Fantastic points!

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 12 '26

I agree overall but kneecapping our economy because ?????????? Isn't good for, well the economy.  We couldnt recreate the economic boom back then but we absolutely should be way richer than we are now with our critical natural resources we have. 

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u/mangobludden Mar 03 '26

genuine traitors bruh

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 04 '26

Erm acktually you not giving your wealth up to others like immigrants and the eldery is bad and evil and goes agaisnt what Canada stands for ☝️🤓

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u/OxfordTheCat Mar 08 '26

They are stuck trying to reproduce the prosperity of the times they flourished in, just haven't figured out that it isn't reproducable.

It's a failure to recognize and adapt, not malice.

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u/gamercast1337 Mar 08 '26

No, some of them are quite malicious.  Actually outright evil.