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[u/floydsmoot]

I just hope that if PP wins a majority in the next election he does something in his promised re-write of the Firearms Act that would make it impossible to change because I guarantee you that people will get sick of him and the LPC will again run on banning everything they possibly can to gain brownie points with a naive public.

I don't know much about constitutional law, but he needs to do something like entrench private property rights and/or let the provinces set their own gun laws or we're going to go through this all again. Gun owners have been the LPC's whipping boys as far back as I can remember (and I'm old) and they certainly aren't about to give that "milch cow" up.

[u/RydNightwish → u/floydsmoot]

He needs to give full control over guns to the provinces. Its obviously not the perfect solution depending which province a person lives. However, I can see a future where this is the case and it is far easier to achieve than trying to get a unified national policy. There is simply too much division in the country. It will always be an urban vs rural, west vs east and quebec vs the rest. Any combination of these guarantee there will never be national unity on this. Quite frankly, the less ability quebec has to dictate how the rest of the country lives in all matters, the longer this country might survive.

[u/SecureNarwhal → u/RydNightwish]

so become like the States with a patchwork of different gun laws and having to choose between your firearms and job opportunities or relationships if it means living in a province that is anti-gun?

[u/GinnAdvent → u/SecureNarwhal]

That wouldn't be good tbh, I prefer to have the same thing throughout the provinces.

It would be a difficult dilemma for many people to move to a different provinces for what they want with their firearms, while there is no guarantee that future provincial government won't change.

[u/floydsmoot → u/GinnAdvent]

to move to a different provinces for what they want with their firearms,

That's what it is in the US and I'll take that over a total ban any day.

[u/RydNightwish → u/GinnAdvent]

Like I said its not perfect coast to coast but I see it as a more feasible prospect. Do you truly, deep in your soul see a future in which alberta, sask and qc walk hand in hand with black rifles protected via constitutional amendment? Again, easier through amendments to provincial constitutions since only one province has to vote.

Your last point is moot.There is no guarantee that federal govts wont change either and eventually a liberal majority will return and once again we will be here concerned about the next gun grab or ban. The precedent has already been set that a govt can just oic these things in. I would prefer not to have to put my guns away every 4 years while I wait for the conservatives to repeal the next oic's or bad gun legislation.

[u/GinnAdvent → u/RydNightwish]

I think it very much becomes a personal decision what to do when that time comes.

Meanwhile doing what I can to promote a Canadian firearm culture and educate people.

The change in government can also happen provincial or federal level and I prefer to have something that sets in stones so we didn't have to go back and forth like this and goes whatever we have slowly erode away.

Just like saying, it ain't over until the fat lady sings, so we will see what happens when we need to cross that bridge.

[u/RydNightwish → u/GinnAdvent]

Things are only going to continue to erode if all we do is wait for something to happen on the national level. We have been waiting for 30+ years and the bans, proposed or otherwise, keep coming. Meanwhile, there is momentum within some provinces that could see real change happen. Im 33 and two of my guns have been banned twice already!

In a perfect world I want to see something at a national level but with groups like poly, the bloc and toronto having such a disproportionate grip on power in this area, Im not gonna hold my breath that it will.

[u/floydsmoot → u/RydNightwish]

In a perfect world I want to see something at a national level

That's what Czechia has but that's a very small country. In a huge diverse country like Canada, what the US has is about our only hope.

You're right about Quebec and the GTA holding power in this country. Until that changes, nothing will.