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[u/SlickRick_39]

Just about to get my non restricted license and was thinking of getting the following rifles any suggestions?

-SKS(because it's cheap and has canadain roots)

-Type 81

-Some sort of AR180 variation either the...

 - Crusader Arms templar 

 - WS-MCR

 - looking at a few others (anyone know a currently in stock, fancy AR180 variant that has less QC issues than the WK180-c G2 and the MCR?)

Any input is appreciated (side note, inheritance will give me a Turkish clone M4 and a 17HMR bolt action)

[u/black_covfefe_please → u/SlickRick_39]

SKS is a Canadian tradition, but no Canadian roots....

As for the AR-180b variant, what is your price range? The G36 (not a AR-180b but quite similar) has no quantity issues, but is fairly pricey.

[u/SlickRick_39 → u/black_covfefe_please]

Yes tradition is a better word to describe the SKS and canada.

I cant seem to find the G36 in stock anywhere. 6,000 for the gun alone, without accessories would be pushing it for me. I would say my budget will be about 4000 for a gun without accessories.

[u/Beretta_errata → u/SlickRick_39]

Learn to shoot on something cheap.
Decide what your needs and wants are.
Choose gun that suits you and your budget and suitable for use at your firearms range.
Follow your canadain roots.

[u/SlickRick_39 → u/[deleted]]

What would the effective range pn a 9mm carbine be compared to s 5.56 nato rifle like a 180 variant?

[u/canuck82ron → u/SlickRick_39]

What would the effective range pn a 9mm carbine be compared to s 5.56 nato rifle like a 180 variant?

Far less. One generally opts for 9mm for cross-compatibility with handguns (many carbines take Glock mags), for less recoil/noise/flash, or simply to cope because the real deal isn't legal. 9mm is generally slightly cheaper, per round, too.

[u/canuck82ron → u/SlickRick_39]

-SKS(because it's cheap and has canadain roots)

You might grab an SKS just because it's possible it will escape tightening gun control longer than, say, the Type 81, because of how common it is. That said it's only relatively cheap, a pain in the ass to accessorize, and heavy in an awkward way (IMO). It used to be hella cheap which did a lot to offset the downsides but those days are long gone.

Got a local gun store? It's worth going in and hefting some of these firearms in real life before making your purchase list.

any suggestions?

Looks like you're missing a .22. I know the .17hmr fills a similar role (which one will you have?) but the big advantage of .22 is the extremely low cost of ammo. 17hmr is about the same as 9mm (.40/round) while 22lr is commonly .10/round.

Another advantage of 22 is that they come in all shapes and sizes: bolt-action, lever, pump, tactical replicas, etc. Good way to scratch a specific shooting itch without breaking the bank.