r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Sep 18 '22

Weekly Newbies & FAQ Thread - Post your questions here for PAL/RPAL application, timelines, CFSC/CFSRC, references & requirements, or general new to firearms ownership -type questions

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u/Happy-Firefighter-30 Sep 22 '22

For legal reasons this is hypothetical.

Say you opened a "gun safe" that was legally a safe. But was by all common sense a cabinet.

Say this "safe" has a lock that rotates 90° to "lock". And is uncovered.

Say you put a soft bag (with ammo) into this safe after a range day to comply with laws in Canada.

Say this soft bag shifts and falls on the latch that rotates.

Say this prevents the safe from opening.

Say this causes you to forcefully open the safe with household tools in 20 minutes.

Say this destroyed the locking mechanism.

Would in this theoretical situation an external latch with a padlock be akin to a safe designed to store guns (restricted need no trigger lock) or a secure storage place (restricted firearms still need a trigger lock).

Again, this of hypothetical.

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u/jaredmn Sep 22 '22

This hypothetical person probably doesn’t want to be the test case where the courts decide what the answer to this is. This hypothetical person might be able to make some convincing arguments, but I certainly wouldn’t risk it. To the extent that the safe was “specifically constructed or modified for the secure storage of restricted firearms”, I think that stopped being the case when its lock was destroyed. At the very least, this hypothetical person will probably want to take out some firearms legal defence insurance.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 22 '22

A school locker satisfies law as a gun storage cabinet according to case law.

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u/Beretta_errata removeddit pro Sep 22 '22

Did you not hear about Jonny Sombrero and his surplus school locker?

Runkle of the Bailey on YouTube