r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Jun 13 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22 edited Jun 13 '22

Some of my edit in a reply didn't go through and I figured it's worth being a standalone comment:

The opposition is predicting the next move and hopping onto the self defence argument. The toothless, and quite frankly, spineless world view of "gun owners must be nice and show that sports shooting is what we're about!! :DD" is obsolete. Me and a handful of users have already pointed out that leaning hard on this angle shoves us into a corner, where the public perceives this thing of ours as a frivolous, rich guy hobby. It just so happens that this "hobby" is dangerous - so what's stopping the government from banning it entirely?

Users here may not like that for whatever reason. Fact of the matter is, 50 years of sports shooting has gotten us nowhere. The gun community in Canada needs to change with the times and no, leaning harder on sports shooting isn't going to cut it any more.

E: reposting the article that floydsmoot posted:

https://www.dailywire.com/news/guns-must-not-be-used-for-self-defense-canadas-trudeau-insists

Dear Leader is trying real hard.

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u/[deleted] Jun 13 '22

Arguments for women's self-defense (and other weaker groups) is good, because it aligns with promoting equality (of ability to defend oneself). I think another good argument is law enforcement, as in anyone who enforces the law(aka most gun owners) is law enforcement. They may not be an officer, but if they have the strength and the will to protect others then they are law enforcement and thus disarming them is ludicrous.

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u/floydsmoot Jun 14 '22

Arguments for women's self-defense

Good luck with that

MP Kellie Leitch proposed legalizing pepper spray for women and was roundly chastised for suggesting such a thing:

"Patty Hajdu says we should just stop men from raping instead"

https://www.nationalreview.com/2016/12/canadian-politician-pepper-spray-offensive-women-men-rape/