r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Jun 06 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

Thanks for your reply. If I understand you correctly, the current approach to the issues are the best way to continue forward.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22 edited Jun 06 '22

I like to think so. I see where you're coming from and it's clearly a well thought out approach. I like it but I don't think it can work anymore. The opposition doesn't want to engage us in good faith so I feel like it would be moot to try and extend an olive branch to them. Shifting our narrative to a self defence / property right angle would do us a lot of good.

E: and your message about being inclusive isn't wrong either. But inclusivity just for the sake of it would be artificially beefing up the gun community with people who aren't as invested as me or you. We need to attract the right people.

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u/[deleted] Jun 06 '22

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u/throwa37 Jun 06 '22

We need them to understand :

Criminals will always own guns, no matter what

Banning them only takes them out of legal civilian hands

Only then can you maybe propose the self defence thing.

People do understand that, it's just that they don't think that our current excuse of sports shooting justifies the risk of having weapons around. Nearly every single person that I've ever argued with who refused to change their mind, didn't accept that guns are worth the risk just to keep around for sport. I've had people make a lot more concessions when discussing defensive gun use, and linking people to stories that happened here in Canada where people saved their lives, and their families lives, with their guns.