r/canadaguns May 23 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

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u/BuzzJr1 Combloc connoisseur May 27 '22

I love being punished for tragedies that happen in another country 3500km away :/

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

Eh, not really. We're simply being punished for crimes that unlicensed criminals in Canada commit.

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u/Fine-Mine-3281 May 27 '22

It’s both, public opinion has definitely turned against owning firearms.

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u/IllustratorMoist8068 May 27 '22

Against private ownership of firearms. The government will still have theirs

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u/Totally-Not-The-CIA May 27 '22

With just a few weeks left in the House of Commons' spring sitting before MPs take a summer hiatus from debating and passing legislation, and other priority bills already moving through Parliament, should a new gun-control bill be presented in as Trudeau has said "the coming weeks," it's unlikely it would pass before the fall. Between factoring in the time opposition parties would want to study any proposed new legislation, and the time that may be needed to implement any regulations stemming from potential new laws, it could be some time before further updates to Canada's firearm laws are in effect.

Read this in a CTV article so it might end up just being a “hey look at us doing something, vote for us next time”

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u/AlmostUnpleasant69 May 27 '22

Its still funny to me that they get their "summer recess". Are they kids? Oh well, better anyways that they spend less time fucking us over.

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 28 '22

C-71 took 18 months to pass. I can't see this bill taking any longer than 24 months to pass and it think an 18 month timeline is more realistic. The fastest I could see it pass is 15 months. So by that metric it should pass anywhere between September 2023 - June 2024.

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 27 '22 edited May 27 '22

The name is a pretty gigantic hint as to what it may include

C-20: An Act establishing the Public Complaints and Review Commission and amending certain Acts and statutory instruments

This is not just going to be their campaign promises, it will include the recommendations from the public safety committee "study".

Edit: Actually there are 2 names

  • An Act to amend certain Acts and to make certain consequential amendments (firearms)
  • An Act establishing the Public Complaints and Review Commission and amending certain Acts and statutory instruments

The first one is the bill name and they refer to the other one as the "measure". I also think I am wrong in my initial reading and the reply to my comment is correct. I have no idea what the Public Complaints and Review Commission is though.

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u/throwa37 May 27 '22

What makes you say that?

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 27 '22

Look at the name

  • C-20: The code of the bill
  • An Act: This document
  • establishing the Public Complaints and Review Commission: Directly referencing the public safety committee "study" and importantly "establishing" those recommendations.
  • and amending certain Acts: The changes made exist acts
  • and statutory instruments: Implementation of the OIC confiscation program

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u/throwa37 May 27 '22

establishing the Public Complaints and Review Commission: Directly refrensing the public safety committee "study" and importantly "establishing" those recommendations.

I read that as they're going to be creating something called the Public Complaints and Review Commission. I don't get anything about SECU out of it.

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 27 '22

The reason my mind doesn't go there is that I have not heard any LPC member propose a complaints and review commission in relation to firearms or firearms owners. I thought maybe I forgot one of the recommendations but the closest thing to a commission in the study is a gangs and gun summit.

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u/RedditSgtMajor May 27 '22

Public complaints and review could be who red flag complaints end up with.

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u/Batsinvic888 Bats888 on YouTube May 27 '22

Ohh, I think you're on to something.