r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • May 23 '22

Weekly Politics Thread

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

What take is there to have? Easily preventable, police sitting on their ass from the new reports coming out, schools should have security teams. Gun control doesn't work

Nvm I see in your replies that you don't particularly care for the OIC since you're "still able to do what you want". Absolutely ridiculous. You're already expecting garbage takes from us so you may as well have not said anything.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

correct. I am not opposed to the OIC. I would have preferred it be done with specific, objective parameters instead.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Lol dude you're asking for more gun restrictions under the guise of rationality. Won't happen. The fact that gun owners here actually ask for more restrictions is beyond me 😂

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

I'm not so keen on the proposed handgun ban. But I'm definitely not asking for them to become unrestricted or for broader authorizations to carry.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

the "slippery slope" idea is a fallacy. Policy doesn't move because it's sliding down a hill. If it's moving, it's because enough people want it to move. "Gun control" is not some new idea that's never been tried.

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u/troviinstaller May 27 '22

“Enough people”… yeah, enough people who have no stake in the issue at hand and have no knowledge at all of the process of acquiring a firearm. Ask yourself how many Toronto voters would really want to ban the mini 14 and VZ 58 if it wasn’t for the liberals milking gun control for votes?

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

I guess you better start making better arguments convincing Toronto voters how the mini 14 isn't a threat to public safety. Those voters believed the LPC's pitches and not those of the anti OIC people here. Being sour about it won't help. Or get the CPC to dump the social conservatives, economic austerity, and truck fascists that prevent them from winning elections and doing something different from the Liberals.

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

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u/[deleted] May 27 '22

it's not "sliding" from it's own inherent momentum. There's no physical process. Any govt can decide to make as large or small a move in either direction, on any point of control, over whatever timeline they choose. It's a terrible metaphor.

It's tightening because most people are convinced more controls would be better. If people are convinced that looser controls would be better, that's the way it will go.

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u/[deleted] May 26 '22

Well guess what, your thinking gives them leeway to ban handguns. You can't pick and choose when it comes to legislation. Give an inch, they take a mile. How do you not understand this?