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[u/Beneficial-Ride-4475]

I got a kick how infuriated people were in the main Canada sub when I said I hadn't called myself Canadian in years, and I didn't feel like I fit in here. Like yeah, I don't feel welcome. When my interest in firearms apparently makes me a latent criminal in the eyes of government and certain Canadians.

Yes, I don't feel Canadian, and haven't for some time.

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Why would anyone want to be associated with this nation or most nations in fact is amusing considering besides a small handful of nations how many can honestly be considered net positives to the world and there citizens? Certainly not Canada that's for sure based on our history and the current way the state treats us the peons.

[u/Beneficial-Ride-4475 → u/InitialAd4125]

Why would anyone want to be associated with this nation or most nations in fact

Keep in mind, I went to university for humanities, of which I only learned the basics, but it was informative. And that education certainly informs my take on this.

I'm a bit of an anarchist, and certainly anti-nationalist, so I really don't understand or support concepts like chauvinism, or exceptionalism. But I do grasp why people want a place to belong. Truthfully, when I see all this Canadian patriotism going around, I grasp why it's happening, but the fact is, this new fervor is actively pushing away the out groups (subcultures, etc) even further.

This is what happens when a society starts leaning to heavily in one direction, in this case, societal collectivism or nationalism. Canada is headed in that direction, just like Japan. Japanese society places a high value on group harmony and social conformity, meaning that behavior disrupting public order or consensus (or in Canada's case, peace and politness) is often discouraged.

Which is fine if you fit in but...

On the other hand, the US leans in the opposite direction, hyper individualism, with, what I judge, to be poor results. (An unpopular take on this sub no doubt).

Society is a balance. Not one thing or the other. When society begins focusing on one thing to the exclusion of others, that's a failure of society.

Our society doesn't like like it's interested in maintaining balance anymore.

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Canada is headed in that direction, just like Japan.

No, it isn't.

Canada's problem is that it's Toronto/Ottawa/Montreal (and Vancouver) vs. the rest of the country. This has been true since about 1867.

The US has checks in its government systems against this. We do not. Witness the results.

I don't share a culture with these people (even the word "Canadian" is manufacturing their consensus), and there's no reason they should be making law for me.