r/canadaguns • u/Sad-Stop-2401 • 8d ago

Misc Will Henry Homesteader without a stock be considered a errrr... "handgun"?

So apparently, Henry Homesteader with just Nuemann Metalworks adapter and a pistol grip is very much a functional gun, sans butt-stock. It is even of NR length (27+ inches). It only misses a butt stock.

If we keep it in that configuration, will it be legal?

Picture is not mine. It belongs to /u/HappyCan7250

The only issue I see is objection is that argument can be made that since it is missing a butt stock, it has been altered to fire with one hand, ergo it is a handgun and no longer a rifle. Similar to how Taurus Judge Home Defender is considered as a handgun. This is ofcourse hypothetical argument.

Any one has insights in this?

PS: Picture is not mine. I took it from this thread : https://www.reddit.com/r/canadaguns/comments/1v52y56/neumann_metalworks_homesteader_furniture/

If original owner of pic objects, I will remove it.

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u/roguemenace 8d ago

It's still a rifle, you're fine.

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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC 8d ago edited 7d ago

As long as you don't cut the barrel and OAL (Overall Length) is still 660mm (26"), then you're good.

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u/TheSockington 7d ago

26 foot is some Iraqi supergun size

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u/Cre_AK47 Name Prohibited by OIC 7d ago

Haha, whoops!

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u/HappyCan7250 8d ago edited 8d ago

Ha, this is my photo. No worries with you reposting it.

I do have a folding stock on it now, but I got the Neumann gear super early so wanted to post the photo before the stock arrived to recommend and show it off.

I believe the rifle came in just slightly over the legal OAL without the stock, dont recall the exact length but I did loom it up and it was maybe 0.25-0.5" over i think, so it was cutting it a little close, but it should be fine.

I would recommend just going for a folding stock, i did consider leaving it likr this though. With the ambi charging handle you can always swap it to the other side if the stock interferes at all. It would also do really well I think with a buffer tube and collapsing stock.

Still loving the rifle with new Neumann furniture. Sort of reignited my Homesteader love. Also have a Vortex red dot on it now.

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u/Sad-Stop-2401 8d ago

One option that I wish to try is to use A3 Industries telescopic stock.

https://a3industries.com/modular-telescoping-stock-universal-picatinny-1913-mount/

Another option is to build a custom rail system for an actual B&T rails stock (w/o buffers) from SPC9 or APC9.

But yes, it makes a very fun PCC with stock removed.

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u/Iokua_CDN 7d ago

Very CZ 600 trail esque! Looks sweet. Perfect for a pcc

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u/Acceptable_Visit_115 7d ago

Usually they won't consider it as a handgun because it a) started life as a rifle and b) the OAL and barrel length are still very long.

If you do it to a NR shorty 870 then yeah, maybe. There have been cases of a previously NR receiver being considered as a handgun if it's pistol grip only (Dlask Shorty).

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u/BowFella 8d ago

The taurus judge home defender is considered a handgun because it has a handgun frame. If you put a 23 inch barrel on a glock making it 26 inches it would still be a handgun.

However this is perfectly legal since it is still over 26".

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u/Ustauk 8d ago

Throw a 1913 to QR sling mount adapter on the back and you could use the British Special Forces sling instead of butt stock method of firing!