r/canadaguns • u/BrotherLefthand • 9d ago

News / Politics / Activism What happened to Cross Industries?

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I had been following crossmags for a long time as Cross kept teasing us with .308 coupler mags for competition shooting. They also teased 7.62x39 coupler magazines.

I went into the backrooms to find my old gear and was reminiscing about days before the great banning. And I saw them... my crossmags...

I went to google Cross Industries and it seems that all of their socials are dead. I can't find their website, and everyone is out of stock of their magazines. I'm not surprised. When all of the MSRs are banned, you lose a business built entirely on being a legal supply of more than 5-rounds.

Does anyone know if they got bought out? Who owns their IP? I would love to see the tech go to MDT. I imagine they can do something great with it.

I was so excited for 7.62x39 magazines...

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u/Spyrothedragon9972 9d ago

I always forget about the weird shit Canadians have to deal with in terms of their shooting hobbies.

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u/BrotherLefthand 9d ago

Right? The government decided 30 rounds was too much, so we were limited to 5. But pistols could have 10... and pistol rifles could also have 10 because they were pistols... and the rule applied to the magazine, not the firearm so rifles could also have 10 rounds... make it make sense.

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u/Spyrothedragon9972 9d ago

I have like twelve 30 round pmags and four 20 round 7.62 mags sitting on my desk right now. To be fair those are illegal in some U.S. states too, but it's just plastic with a metal spring lol. Imagine getting arrested and going to jail because of a $20 plastic rifle magazine.

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u/KTMan77 sk 9d ago

In Canada you probably wouldn't be jailed just for a magazine offence but yeah point still stands that it's dumb because an aluminum rivet can pin a 30 rnd mag to 5 for it be legal. 

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u/717Luxx 9d ago

a stack like the other commenter has, especially if loaded and out of the house? maybe, who knows these days

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u/scamcitizen999 8d ago

Possibly worth noting.

The only clarification on magazine capacities was Bulletin 72 which is now MIA on the rcmp website (happy to scan it if anyone needs it). The pistols that took 223/5.56 are now all prohibited. So, it stands to reason that LAR15 magazines are firmly in the grey area leaning to possibly hassle territory if an rcmp officer is having a bad day. Just my 2c. Not advice. Do what you want.

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u/BrotherLefthand 8d ago

The restrictions apply to the magazine, not the firearm. It doesn't matter if the firearms are now prohibited. The magazines are not.

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u/scamcitizen999 8d ago

This is where it gets tricky. Take a look at the bulletin. Found a copy here. https://firearmscanada.com/special-bulletin-businesses-no-72/

You're referring to point #4. I'll explain why I don't think that applies anymore. Take a look at the other sections. Rcmp makes it exceeding clear that rifles shall be limited to 5rd. But you're right on the mag.. So back to point 4.

Lets say you roll into crown land for a range day. Rcmp approaches you. You do not have any pistols accepting 10rd mags (point 4, and you couldn't possibly have one, since they're prohib). But you do have a rifle and are holding a 10rd mag. Now how confident exactly are you? You could refer to the bulletin which no longer exists on the gov't website. Rcmp is likely to invoke similar basic logic as what I'm saying here and at a minimum give you a hard time.

Again. Keep the dream alive. Don't take my advice. Just throwing it out there. I'm not a lawyer. Just a guy who figures the rcmp will always take the least cool route.

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u/BrotherLefthand 8d ago edited 8d ago

Brother, you're overthinking this. Restrictions are on the magazine, not the firearm.

https://rcmp.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms/maximum-permitted-magazine-capacity#s3

"The maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the kind of firearm it is designed or manufactured for use in and not the kind of firearm it might actually be used in. This means the maximum permitted capacity remains the same regardless of which firearm it might be used in."

The law is very clear that using a 10 round pistol magazine in a rifle is legal.

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u/scamcitizen999 8d ago

I am overthinking it. Good find on that page. That does look like the bulletin that has a proper home now.

Regardless. I have nothing to use them with. Sad days.