r/canadaguns • u/BrotherLefthand • 9d ago

News / Politics / Activism What happened to Cross Industries?

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I had been following crossmags for a long time as Cross kept teasing us with .308 coupler mags for competition shooting. They also teased 7.62x39 coupler magazines.

I went into the backrooms to find my old gear and was reminiscing about days before the great banning. And I saw them... my crossmags...

I went to google Cross Industries and it seems that all of their socials are dead. I can't find their website, and everyone is out of stock of their magazines. I'm not surprised. When all of the MSRs are banned, you lose a business built entirely on being a legal supply of more than 5-rounds.

Does anyone know if they got bought out? Who owns their IP? I would love to see the tech go to MDT. I imagine they can do something great with it.

I was so excited for 7.62x39 magazines...

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u/Spyrothedragon9972 9d ago

I always forget about the weird shit Canadians have to deal with in terms of their shooting hobbies.

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u/BrotherLefthand 9d ago

Right? The government decided 30 rounds was too much, so we were limited to 5. But pistols could have 10... and pistol rifles could also have 10 because they were pistols... and the rule applied to the magazine, not the firearm so rifles could also have 10 rounds... make it make sense.

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u/Spyrothedragon9972 9d ago

I have like twelve 30 round pmags and four 20 round 7.62 mags sitting on my desk right now. To be fair those are illegal in some U.S. states too, but it's just plastic with a metal spring lol. Imagine getting arrested and going to jail because of a $20 plastic rifle magazine.

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u/AnvilsHammer 8d ago

The more fun loopholes were magazines that were designed for a particular round, say .50 Beowulf or .458 Socom but designed to fit into an AR15. Well those magazines also happened to be able to fit 15ish rounds of 5.56 even though they were pinned to 5 rounds. You can't modify the magazine, but if your gun could accept that magazine, it was perfectly legal to use.

Iirc the Spectre ballistics Lynx had an option for the lower to accept Black Creek Labs Bison 20rd mags. 4x the "legal" limit for centre fire rifles, but perfectly legal to use.

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u/looloopklopm 8d ago

I'm using 20rd bison mags in my renegade lol

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u/BrotherLefthand 8d ago

You could use a 100rnd drum mag in your renegade if it was proprietary. Renegade is a manual action firearm.

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u/looloopklopm 8d ago

YUP.

You think I'm coming online to confess to crimes through reddit comments?

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u/BrotherLefthand 8d ago

Lol get automodded, chud.

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u/BrotherLefthand 8d ago

I think you could be ignorant of the law because it can be confusing. I don't care what you do with your guns.

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u/looloopklopm 8d ago

Then why the fuck did you respond to me?

You aren't supposed to be eating the bullets.

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u/KTMan77 sk 9d ago

In Canada you probably wouldn't be jailed just for a magazine offence but yeah point still stands that it's dumb because an aluminum rivet can pin a 30 rnd mag to 5 for it be legal. 

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u/717Luxx 9d ago

a stack like the other commenter has, especially if loaded and out of the house? maybe, who knows these days

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u/scamcitizen999 8d ago

Possibly worth noting.

The only clarification on magazine capacities was Bulletin 72 which is now MIA on the rcmp website (happy to scan it if anyone needs it). The pistols that took 223/5.56 are now all prohibited. So, it stands to reason that LAR15 magazines are firmly in the grey area leaning to possibly hassle territory if an rcmp officer is having a bad day. Just my 2c. Not advice. Do what you want.

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u/BrotherLefthand 8d ago

The restrictions apply to the magazine, not the firearm. It doesn't matter if the firearms are now prohibited. The magazines are not.

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u/scamcitizen999 8d ago

This is where it gets tricky. Take a look at the bulletin. Found a copy here. https://firearmscanada.com/special-bulletin-businesses-no-72/

You're referring to point #4. I'll explain why I don't think that applies anymore. Take a look at the other sections. Rcmp makes it exceeding clear that rifles shall be limited to 5rd. But you're right on the mag.. So back to point 4.

Lets say you roll into crown land for a range day. Rcmp approaches you. You do not have any pistols accepting 10rd mags (point 4, and you couldn't possibly have one, since they're prohib). But you do have a rifle and are holding a 10rd mag. Now how confident exactly are you? You could refer to the bulletin which no longer exists on the gov't website. Rcmp is likely to invoke similar basic logic as what I'm saying here and at a minimum give you a hard time.

Again. Keep the dream alive. Don't take my advice. Just throwing it out there. I'm not a lawyer. Just a guy who figures the rcmp will always take the least cool route.

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u/BrotherLefthand 8d ago edited 8d ago

Brother, you're overthinking this. Restrictions are on the magazine, not the firearm.

https://rcmp.ca/en/firearms/classes-firearms/maximum-permitted-magazine-capacity#s3

"The maximum permitted capacity of a magazine is determined by the kind of firearm it is designed or manufactured for use in and not the kind of firearm it might actually be used in. This means the maximum permitted capacity remains the same regardless of which firearm it might be used in."

The law is very clear that using a 10 round pistol magazine in a rifle is legal.

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u/scamcitizen999 8d ago

I am overthinking it. Good find on that page. That does look like the bulletin that has a proper home now.

Regardless. I have nothing to use them with. Sad days.

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u/conanap 8d ago

Fundamentally, it’s because laws were made by people who didn’t understand the topic they are legislating on.

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u/N1GHTSQU1R3LL 7d ago

Then the charger nuked the high cap magazines for 10/22 cuz a rim fire rifle can have as many rounds as you want but pistols are still limited to 10, so you cant have that banana mag for your rifle if it fits in a pistol.

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u/BrotherLefthand 7d ago

Except you can modify your rimfire rifle to accept those banana mags. Because that also makes sense somehow.

I have 110rnd drums for my 10/22 that I run with a magazine well adapter. They're an absolute pain in the ass to reload and use, but they're so much fun when it works. 😂

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u/N1GHTSQU1R3LL 7d ago

Yeah for sure, as long as you can't put it in a pistol, I have a few drums for an alleged GSG 15. They were half price after the rifle got put on the ban list.