r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Aug 31 '26

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u/Agonizing-Stroke1812 Sep 12 '26

Looking at recent approval ratings I'm thinking it's over for good for our hobby here. We have a shot at grandfathering what we've got and that's about it. Hope I'm wrong

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u/rastamasta45 Sep 12 '26

Buddy at this point I’m thinking you want this to happen because it’ll make you feel better that you gave up your collection that way “well it’s all banned so I can’t have regret”

Meanwhile we’re all standing strong and holding out, when we eventually win (the numbers show we will) you’ll be filled with regret that you lost things you can never buy. Enough with the doomerism, we won this battle (we did, you didn’t because you handed in everything)

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u/Reasonable_Hall2346 Sep 13 '26

The doomers are always the ones that have voluntarily complied.

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u/Agonizing-Stroke1812 Sep 15 '26

If they stay banned I got paid, if they get unbanned I can just reacquire. Win-win

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Sep 12 '26

It doesn't matter what the approval ratings are right now. The odds of us going into a election right at this moment are pretty low. Also not to character assassinate but my guy you are a 6 month old account who has pretty much only doomer posted. Like a lot of your comments I have seen you say in this thread are doomer post after doomer post with a few more average run of the mill comments mixed in. Like please instead of doomer posting do something productive. Take someone who has never shot before to the range. Help pay for someone's CFSC course. Just do something productive instead of basking in nihilism. Like I get it things suck but be the change you want to see. Help increase the number of PAL holders. I can't say this enough. Let's get the numbers up to 3 million+.

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u/22GageEnthusiast Sep 12 '26

This is the best long term solution for firearm rights in Canada. We need to create more PAL holders. Imagine if the % of PAL holders to the general population increased from like 2.5% currently to like 5%, 10% or 15%.....it wouldn't matter as to which political party was in power. The governing party would be forced to pass favourable laws or at the very least, leave the existing laws as they are.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Sep 12 '26

Funnily enough it’s not at 2.5%. Currently there are 2.4 million pal holders and let’s say Canadas population is 42 million. That would mean 5.7% of the population had a pal. What we should be striving for is atleast double that.

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u/22GageEnthusiast Sep 12 '26

My bad I guess I got the numbers mixed up. Incredible that were at over 5% already.....but again we need that number to go as high as possible. This is the best long term solution.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Sep 12 '26

Yep. Every chance I get am scooping out people both irl and online I know that would be interested in getting a pal but are on the fence about it. I tell them get a crossbow (that often times is a good starting off point.) or I go straight to it and tell them I would help pay for there CFSC. Anything to get more pal holders.

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u/22GageEnthusiast Sep 12 '26

The political situation is hopeless until Trump is out of office which will be January 2029.

However, I would wait until the Supreme Court decision has been reached until you start being a doomer about firearm laws in Canada.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Sep 12 '26

I am very curious as to how the SCC is going to rule. Will it be unanimous? More divided? Like a lot of nihilistic people would say that the SCC is just going to rubber stamp. Yet if that was the case they would have just denied the application setting precedent in that action alone. The fact the SCC has allowed for this application alone is pretty big. Do you know about many hearings the SCC are doing in 2026 both already have done and have set to do? 69 (nice.). Which in the grand scheme of things for a entire country that is very very small. They get 100s of cases in a year and choose to hear very very few of them. If you don’t believe me ask Runkle about it.

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u/RydNightwish Sep 12 '26

Im less concerned about what the SCC will do and more about what the gov does in response. We lose, things stay the same. We win, they rush a bill with thier ill gotten majority and things stay the same or get even worse.

If the PQ wins, they will burn the whole country to keep qc happy and guns are very easy kindling in that regard.

Its good to see people still enthused but its also only reasonable to let people who are mentally exhausted be able to vent. Its been a long seven years and you cant fault people who have basically checked out and are steeling themselves against disappointment. Theres no reason to believe that a loss at the SCC would cause the libs to drop this whole thing. 

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u/Natural_Comparison21 Sep 12 '26

Depends. Legislation wise they might just save it until later.

That would not be great but keep in mind chances are the PQ is only going to get a minority government.

It’s enough to argue that they would put it on the back burner for a while depending on circumstances. If the PQ somehow wins a majority? Yea then it’s a priority. If they win a minority? Little bit less so. If they don’t win anything? Even less so. If there polls start dropping? Yea probably.

The best thing we can do in the meantime is increase the number of pal holders in Canada. It’s a numbers game and the more numbers we have the better.

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u/TKB-059 bc Sep 12 '26

Ratings don't matter. There is no election.

It's just rally around the flag larp. It'll all come crashing down when economic reality hits.

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u/JerkyMan360 Sep 12 '26

Smoking that doomium pack