r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • Aug 17 '26

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u/Cock_ball_dickin Aug 17 '26

Imagine the unholy tantrum poly is gonna throw when the SCC case is won in our favour. Perhaps I’m being too hopeful

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u/FunkyFrunkle Aug 17 '26 edited Aug 18 '26

I have a feeling that the government wants nothing to do with buying back pistols.

You can fudge NR numbers all day long. The long gun registry was killed off over a decade ago, so trying to accurately estimate how many affected NR guns there are is impossible. Restricted guns on the other hand are known. The numbers come out every year in the firearms report.

With over a million pistols in civilian possession, the government cannot escape or fudge the numbers and would have no real choice but to budget for over a million units in a buyback which is not feasible. It would bankrupt the country.

Their goal is to slowly kill handgun possession by attrition.

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u/GinnAdvent Aug 17 '26

Do you remember the amount of handgun registrations that were assigned during 2022 buying rush? I am sure it's at least over 10k if not more. Someone published it here but I can't remember the exact number.

I am sure Poly is well aware of how many handguns there are, but they don't want the negative optics spending more money to buy that back, and risk generate more negative feedback in the communities that might detail their gun confiscation scheme.

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u/FunkyFrunkle Aug 17 '26

Yep. It was a fairly large number.

They were probably told that a handgun buyback isn’t going to happen.

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u/GinnAdvent Aug 17 '26

Good, I am glad that Liberal slap some sense into them, lol.

I mean, I bought like 20 plus pistols in 4 months so I assume lots of people did similar thing.

Someone mention that JT was the best pistol salesman ever, which for 2022, it was technically true.

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u/613mitch Aug 20 '26

Do you remember the amount of handgun registrations that were assigned during 2022 buying rush? I am sure it's at least over 10k if not more.

From May 23 to September 27, 2022, there were 246 058 requests to transfer the registration certificates of handguns

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u/Dill_Pickle_Tears Aug 18 '26

It would be truly impossible to implement and could be seen as unnecessary. Even NZ and AUS - both inspirations for the buyback - have suppressors and handguns which are legally accessible to some degree.

I’m sure common folk wouldn’t care, but still. Handgun prohibition would be an exponentially larger beast than the current bans - which they clearly will be unable to execute on successfully.

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u/uberduck999 N/R Whisperer Aug 17 '26

I'm not sure if this is a joke or not, but the SCC ruling in our favour would make it much harder for the libs to try and pull something like this again in the future.

You can't just reintroduce a new bill doing the same thing that was deemed unconstitutional by the courts, thankfully.

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u/FunkyFrunkle Aug 17 '26

There’s also the very real question of would they even want to.

This is a wildly unpopular program that almost the entire country is refusing to partake in. The police are largely done with it. They have some collection points up and running in major centres but outside of that, paying third party contractors to run around the second largest country by landmass is going to cost you your firstborn child.

My guess is, IF and I mean IF the Supreme Court rules in our favour, this whole thing pretty much fizzles out. C-21 remains in place and so does the handgun freeze unfortunately, but everything else gets nullified and the government washes their hands of this.

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u/boozefiend3000 Aug 17 '26

The courts would say the government can’t ban through OIC, the government can just use their majority to ban through parliament 

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u/CenturionV Aug 17 '26

Yeah the bill is probably already drawn up if they are even remotely forward thinking. They can even throw in the few new things that have popped up since the previous bans that they "missed". They don't even need a majority, the bloc/NDP would support it either way. While I 100% agree with the challenge on using OIC's for this kind of thing because it has far farther implication than firearms, we very well could end up in a significantly worse position when the liberals just sign it all into law. Then we will need a full conservative majority, probably years or decades in the future to even ask to have it removed, and we all know how conservative politicians are about rescinding long standing firearms bans (they have never done it once FYI)

We have to essentially pray that A. We win the court case. and B. The liberals suddenly decide they don't want to touch firearms stuff again (while having the nations foremost gun grabber as part of their government) X to doubt.

The only way out of all of this is a conservative MAJORITY government who also remains strongly committed to reversing ALL trudeau-era gun regulation changes, the liberals have virtually unlimited other options for preventing anyone from ever taking one of those banned firearms to the range again until that time.

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u/FunkyFrunkle Aug 17 '26

I don’t think they will.

IF the Supreme Court rules in our favour and the bans get struck down (best case scenario), the government is going to look really shitty given how much money was spent on this and it’s likely they’ll burn up a boatload of political capital in the process. Gun bans will more than likely be too toxic to touch for a while.

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u/greasygreenbastard Aug 17 '26

this MF casting SPELLS on the SCC in our favour 😈😈💪🏻💪🏻🪄🧙‍♂️

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u/Rewindonemoretime Aug 17 '26

I think we might actually get to see Natalie’s head do a full 360.

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u/boozefiend3000 Aug 17 '26

Would be cool to see her collapse on video 

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u/Otherwise_Rub_9515 Aug 18 '26

I thought 80% of the SCC judges are liberal appointed? 

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u/I-LOVE-HENRY-RIFLES Aug 18 '26

Yes. And we won’t be winning shit. Hell they’ll probably rule that the government should send us all to Nunavut.

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u/greasygreenbastard Aug 18 '26

Not the worst outcome tbh