r/canadaguns • u/CapThePunch98 • 13d ago

Misc American here with a few questions

I'm not trying to gloat or anything like that, just genuinely curious about Canadians and how they're feeling about guns, gun rights, and gun purchases. You guys were clearly given the shaft when it comes to guns.

Question 1: I see a lot of comments here passing up on $900 SKS's or Carmel's because they're a ripoff. Why not spend a little extra to get your hands on a semi-automatic rifle since the vast majority of them are banned? I feel like I would if I were in your shoes. 22's are just cope imo.

Question 2: how sacred are guns to the average user here?

Question 3: how is morale? Do you guys have hope for the future? If a conservative PM wins, do you think he'll unban a lot of shit?

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u/Working_Brother7971 13d ago

Speaking on banning guns to "protect Canadians" 2 people were just killed a few blocks away from me today and a few more injured. Really feeling safe here with fewer responsible gun owners legally owning hunting rifles.

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u/Trilobyte83 12d ago

Guns cannot be used in self defence in Canada.

If it *happened* to be out for cleaning at the exact moment intruders came, with guns, then maybe you might get off, but still expect charges, public scrutiny, to have your guns temporarily if not permanently seized, and at least 20k in legal fees and able to put it behind you after 6 months. That’s the best case.

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u/PrestigiousStatus711 12d ago

Guns can absolutely be used for self defence in Canada.

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u/Trilobyte83 12d ago

I’m obviously not saying no one’s ever defended themselves with a gun and legally prevailed. But If it could be proven that you bought, possessed, and had at the ready a gun primarily for the purpose of self defence, and used it for that, you would be in a legal shit storm. Little different than you can’t have knives or baseball bats *primarily for self defence*.

Ppl seem to be thinking I’m advocating this or saying it’s right-I’m not. I’m stating the legal reality that if you had heaps of posts online saying “better to be judged by 12 than carried by 6” advocating for your right to self defence with firearms, and prosecution pointed to that after you shot someone trying to rob you, you could very easily end up in jail for manslaughter and be facing an uphill battle since you had an attitude of “give me an excuse”.

Anything shown that was done for purposes other than hunting or sport, like keeping a trigger locked shot gun next to your night stand or door with the keys 6 inches away would be on you to prove it was reasonable- given that you can’t do so legally for the purpose of self defence.

I’m not sure why it’s confusing. Ppl seem unable to differentiate between stating whether or not a law is just, and stating what the law matter of factly says.