r/canadaguns 19d ago

Recurring Canadaguns Politics and Debate Thread

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u/Natural_Comparison21 14d ago

https://montrealgazette.com/opinion/op-eds/opinion-a-known-gap-in-canadas-gun-laws-is-costing-lives/

This is one of the smaller yaps from the anti gun lobby. Especially a lead figure head. For those who don't want to read the news article I will put down the points.

  • The heading is of course talking about the 'sks loophole' and how it's costing lives somehow. Despite the fact that if you were to take the number of people to die from a SKS rifle in Canada throughout it's entire history in this country I would be willing to bet dollars to donuts that illegal handguns kill more people in just about any year in the 2020s. But enough from me.

  • Mentions how the shooter had a PAL which seems more to be a failure of the licensing system then the firearm itself.

  • Oh she straight up doesn't bring up the fact a cop killed somebody who wasn't the shooter because I guess when a cop kills someone it's not important.

  • She quotes a poly article for her evidence of multiple instances. Which the article literally has to go all the way back to 2014 to pull from examples. In otherwords? Like one instance per year. Which is comically low considering how many times a shooting happens with a illegal handgun in a year. One of those cases it was just suspected as well. They also bring up some shit about criminal investigations and how in one city in Canada it was the most seized rifle or some shit... Which is like "Yea no shit sherlock it's one of the most popular firearms in Canada. What next? You find a lot of Ruger 10/22s? Lot of old Cooeys in old cottages?" Oh and the number seized? Less then 100... Yea.

  • Brings up how smuggling is a valid concern but what about domestic sourced firearms? Proceeds to quote the RCMP and doesn't even give a percentage from that article just say's and I quote "suggest a significant share of crime guns are domestically sourced" That's it then she moves onto a different topic.

  • Proceeds to quote New Zealand and Australia like they are somehow W policy's or success stories (they aren't compliance was horrible in both countries.)

  • Had to add this quote for the laughs. "As an added insult to Canadian taxpayers, owners who surrender their prohibited firearm for compensation under the current buyback program can use that money to purchase a new assault weapon, the SKS, thereby injecting public money directly into the coffers of assault weapon manufacturers." Lmao. Who's making SKS's anymore? The people who make Chaisis? That I got a laugh out of.

  • Brings up the most recent shooting which the shooter only killed one person in (not saying that's bad but like she's making it out to be this Nova Scotia level shooting and 1/3rd of the deaths came from the cops 2/3rds if you count the death of the shooter.)

  • Her conclusion is utterly hilarious as she refuses to say the quiet part out loud. Sorry but it's literally the most popular semi auto centre fire firearm in Canada. I would say it's the single most popular firearm in Canada period but considering how many Ruger 10/22s and other surplus that exists that do be debatable.

Tldr? Lot of anti gunner slopper about fear mongering around the SKS and calling for a ban or in the mean time a 'freeze' on the sales.

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u/rastamasta45 13d ago

Love your deep dive and analysis, read the whole article and all I can do is this 🤦🏽

Like fuck off already Heidi, seriously fuck off, meanwhile Toronto just had 2 massive shootings….wonder what those thugs used huh

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u/Natural_Comparison21 13d ago

She can’t help herself. You can very very clearly see that she is panicking. She is getting older and is upset she might not be around long enough to get to her so called ‘promised’ land. Like she’s not that old but she is getting up there in age. Keep in mind she would have started this in her 20s and having 30 years go by with very little to show for it in her mind is not great.