Happy Birthday America!

[u/AdditionalLoss7274]

Felt today would be a fitting day to take out my 1976 Ruger Blackhawk.

[u/NiceLovinFriend]

‘American Liberty’

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/NiceLovinFriend]

They're free to go and buy one of these right now. Canadians are not. I'm not one to define what "liberty" is or entails, but you COULD start there...

[u/NiceLovinFriend → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

That’s a fair response. When it comes to Canadian gun ownership policy we will likely very much agree on most things, but surely we don’t a list of consumer products to function as a Liberty-metric…the corporations have enough money as it is.

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/NiceLovinFriend]

There are some others. I am not allowed to say "I don't think the residential schools were as bad as they say", for example. Whether I am correct in that statement or not is irrelevant, but I should not be prosecuted by the government for merely holding that opinion...

[u/NiceLovinFriend → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

Can you provide me with a specific example? I can provide you numerous examples of the American state prosecuting and silencing dissenting voices. Those critical of Israel and the war on Iran as a recent example.

Our government has its flaws, but at least it somewhat tries to be beholden to, and serve, us, it’s constituants. The US Gov is so corrupt it doesn’t even pretend not to be anymore. And, no, you will not get prosecuted for having that opinion about Residential Schools here in Canada.

[u/Eglitarian → u/NiceLovinFriend]

The fact that the Supreme Court seems interested in hearing the CCFR’s challenge (mostly on the merits that the Trudeau government abused the OIC and that sets a terrifying precedent for the courts and hopefully every other thinking human) at least shows some responsibility on behalf of our legal system. Canada is many things right now but not some Asian or African hellhole warzone where freedom actually goes to die. It’s not perfect but if you’re able to wake up in the morning and drive to hunting grounds or the gun range unbothered and shoot at (legal and in season) animals or targets, you’re still better off than a large portion of the world.

Yeah the current prohibitions on firearms sucks in Canada and I sincerely hope it changes, and I hope that the SCOC strikes down the usage of the OIC and that the current government is at least pragmatic enough to not waste any more resources on this, but it’s only hope at this point.

I’ve lived/visited other places in the world and other than the firearms themselves being in a state of legal limbo due to arbitrary classification from idiot politicians, the licensing and process for acquiring firearms is still comparatively easy in Canada vs many other countries where there’s either LOADS of hoops to jump through (Europe, Japan, England, Australia) or ownership is outright impossible for the average citizen (China, South Korea, Vietnam). We don’t have to give a reason why we want to own it, don’t need doctor’s notes or a psychiatrist’s approval, don’t need sponsorship from a gun club, and once you have your license buying guns and ammo is literally as banal as buying beer at the liquor store. More goes into buying a motor vehicle than a firearm.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

You're talking to a communist. Just ignore them, their opinion is worthless.

[u/trundle-the-great69 → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Lmao what in the Fox News does this mean

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/trundle-the-great69]

It means I don't value the opinion of communists.

[u/trundle-the-great69 → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

you equate socialism with communism eh ?

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/trundle-the-great69]

Which one was the USSR?

[u/trundle-the-great69 → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Communism

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/trundle-the-great69]

The USSR described themselves as being in the socialist stage, building the foundations for eventual communism. In this socialist stage they murdered millions of people.

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Yeah, I realized that shortly after...

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

He called a person defending Stalin's atrocities "based" so of course he will hate America and liberty.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

America and liberty have no business being in the same sentence. Certainly not after 9/11.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

Do you think Canada is strong and free?

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Yes. Make real points and not bs rhetoric.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

If you're free then go buy an AR or a handgun.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Just more rhetoric.

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

Bro. You're not allowed to call a transgendered woman a man.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

...yes. You are.

The fuck are you talking about?

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

I chuckled.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/NiceLovinFriend]

Go buy a handgun or an AR and tell me how free Canadians are...

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

We're smart enough to know that thats not freedom. You can easily get a handgun and assault rifle in Somalia.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

I know over a dozen Canadians who have moved to the US yet none moving to Somalia. Why is that? Owning firearms is certainly a right and an aspect of freedom. Your attitude is exactly why Canada ended up with restrictions and bans. Keep treating it like a privilege and it will be eroded bit by bit. The last 3 decades are proof of that.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

It is a privledge. The US has the worst crime rates of any developed country and they dont even use the 2nd like they claim theyre supposed to.

Their government is more corrupt than it ever has been. Blatent bribery across the board, gross nepotism, and a complete disregard for the law in letter or spirit.

A 40 year old mother was charged with terrorism for saying deny, defend, depose youre next to a rep from her insurance company.

Anericans routinely get large sums of cash removed under "suspicion" of it being profits of crime.

Their privacy laws are a joke, their personal data is legally sold to the highest bidder. Their data centers are raising water prices for locals. And protections from private companies poisoning their water tables or food supply have been stripped.

For fucks sakes theeres a dozen billionaires in the white house who make billions more every year because they get the heads up on how Trumps going to fuck the stock market next.

But hey. You can buy an AR. Not an LMG though thats where they draw the line.

Its a hit country and doesnt even crack the top 10 on the international freedom index.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

Need some spell check there, buddy. I think you're a bit angry, take a breather. Maybe some range time (just not with an AR cause you're not allowed)

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Youre all rhetoric bud.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

I'm free to buy an AR or a handgun, you're not.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Im free to not get shot by an AR or a handgun. Youre not.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

You don't think there are criminals in Canada with handguns? What an absurd statement.

[u/ThePoeticJester]

I see that abby fish and game range 5 😜

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/ThePoeticJester]

Always a good time slapping some steel (or missing entirely, as is often the case...)

[u/WeightedDips95]

Damn your post must have been picked up on the front page of Reddit or something. Lots of elbozos who have never even touched a gun 

[u/BearlyDraconic01]

Boooo. This is a Canadian sub

[u/Eazy-Eid → u/BearlyDraconic01]

Some of us aren't ready to throw out our long-standing relationship with our closest ally over the actions of one dude.

[u/snasna102 → u/Eazy-Eid]

That’s the kind of logic someone who sticks with a cheating partner has

[u/Eazy-Eid → u/snasna102]

The alliance is way more valuable to us than it is to them. Not sure we should be equating a strategic geopolitical alliance that affects hundreds of millions to a marital spat.

[u/Redbulldildo → u/Eazy-Eid]

The actions of 2/3rds of the country.

[u/No-Night-48 → u/Eazy-Eid]

If he was elected in fairly, I am.

[u/stjeana → u/Eazy-Eid]

"well he just has a bad temper"

[u/cat_owner613]

Wrong sub, pal

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/cat_owner613]

Oh sorry. I thought I was in Canada, and this was a gun. My mistake.

[u/cat_owner613 → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

Hard to tell considering you’re celebrating another country in the very title of your post.

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/cat_owner613]

I too, refuse to wish anyone other than myself a happy birthday.

[u/CheesecakeEasy8952]

That’s a sweet SSA .
Must be lots of 250 jewels up for sale.

[u/GamesFranco2819]

Hey give that back

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/GamesFranco2819]

Haha. Did I buy it off you??

[u/GamesFranco2819 → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

Nah just lazy joke lol

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/GamesFranco2819]

Lol. Gotcha. Ironically, there haven't been (yet) any buybacks proposed for handguns...

[u/GamesFranco2819 → u/AdditionalLoss7274]

Give it time. Im sure they will.

[u/AdditionalLoss7274 → u/GamesFranco2819]

Of that, I have no doubt.

[u/HealthyHollowSesh]

The best country in the world

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/HealthyHollowSesh]

You will hurt feelings with this one. Even as our government threatens them with prison if they don't allow their property to be confiscated.

[u/zeeloniusfunk → u/HealthyHollowSesh]

Yeah okay bud

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/[deleted]]

Just ask any of these America hating Canadians to go buy an AR or a handgun. Probably just jealous that they can't.

[u/Cock_ball_dickin → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

I’m 100% jealous that we can’t. But at the same time their problems are very bad too.

Due to the liberal insistence on destroying/ denying Canadian culture I see North America as unfortunately this large economic zone controlled by international capital and central bankers. The border, as opposed to signifying a major cultural divide unfortunately is a loose fence that divides our jurisdictions.

South of the arbitrary fence that divides us, at least you can get guns, BUT, your leader is a war mongering Zionist pedophile who gives you nothing in return for your taxes, hates you, and opposes your freedoms in many ways.

North of the arbitrary fence, you’re in the land of the central banker who loves serving pedophile war mongering Zionists, who also gives you very little for your taxes, hates us, and opposes our freedoms in many ways including our firearms rights.

Europe is fucked in their own way, in fact I see the west as this giant neoliberal bath, and we each have sections of this pool that are each occupied by a slightly different pollutant, but at the end of the day, it’s the same hands pouring these different pollutants into the water. International capital.

And I deeply respect Americans and their culture, however I despise their state, I despise their government. But I love the people, and I yearn for them to become free the same way I also yearn for us to become free from the bureaucratic soulless system designed purely for the top 1% and the boomer liberals.

But I choose Canada. It’s where I’m born and it’s where I’m gonna stay, because despite the liberals best efforts, I know this country does have history, it does have culture, and I’m incredibly proud to be Canadian despite how fucked our state can be.

But yes I’m jealous lol

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/Cock_ball_dickin]

Trump will be gone and Canadians still won't be able to buy handguns or ARs. The governments in many western nations are terrible but the difference is that Americans are more willing to fight for freedom and protect their rights. That is what makes America great. It is the people and the culture, not the government. Most Canadians (including most firearm owners) don't even believe firearm ownership is a right and as a result Canadians will eventually be unable to own firearms. The "privilege" will be eroded away bit by bit along with any other rights Canadians claim to value.

I was also jealous.

[u/zeeloniusfunk → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

America used to rule. The context in which their country was created is one of the most interesting stories of rebellion and liberty. During the early 20th century they protected the weak and created the greatest media giant in the world because they were so dang cool.

But America now ain’t what it used to be.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/zeeloniusfunk]

America still has the people and culture that value rebellion and liberty. I'd say the people most critical of the current American government are Americans. Canada now ain't what is used to be either, doesn't mean we can't turn it around.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

No. Trump has done too much damage. The US will never be the same again. Just look at all the supreme court cases theyve been pushing out. The president cant be held accountable for crimes committed in office?

Americans are fucked and will keep getting fucked every year.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Buddy. Gun ownership =/= freedom. In fact there is a direct correlation between gun ownership and a countries shittiness and the US proves it everyday.

You guys have crime comprable to 2nd and 3rd world countries. The highest per capita prison population, the highest rates of recidivism and a higher chance to become a victim of a crime than any 2 first world countries.

You guys dont even use your second ammendment right.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

Canadians don't even have second "ammendment" right. That is even worse.

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

Its not. The 2nd ammendment is redundant. Ill say it in caps.

YOU DON'T NEED THE GOVERNMENTS PERMISSION TO OVERTHROW THE GOVERNMENT.

Say it with me now.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

Canadians do need government permission to own a gun. How has that been working?

[u/The_King_of_Canada → u/PrestigiousStatus711]

And we have less crime because of it.

But go on. Keep deflecting. Keep ignoring my points.

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/The_King_of_Canada]

Getting upset at me isn't making any points.

[u/CloneFailArmy → u/[deleted]]

Yeah it does hurt doesn’t it. American cry babies think they’re the most free place on the earth because of gun ownership while they’re literally oppressed in every other way

It’s basically Caucasian Afghanistan. I respect Afghanistan more though because they don’t pretend they don’t hate women.

Build the wall, make them pay for it and keep those fucks out of our country and go back to pre 2020 gun bans now that we won’t have their illegal firearms and their drugs killing our citizens on the street and let their 3rd world shithole burn

[u/PrestigiousStatus711 → u/CloneFailArmy]

We aren't going back to pre 2020 laws. You can thank the Liberal and NDP voters in this subreddit for that. If you ever want to own and shoot an AR you will have to move to the US.

[u/CloneFailArmy → u/[deleted]]

Sorry nice try but I voted conservative in the last four elections. If Carney repeals all this bullshit I might consider swapping floors though since I’m not a tribalistic monkey who has evolved cognitively beyond clans. If a party offers a better deal then they offer a better deal. Until then though 🤷🏻‍♂️