r/canadaguns • u/Traditional_Bus2955 • 22d ago
Misc Gun cabinet for the poors
Finally finished my makeshift Amazon only gun locker for my apartment. It’s obviously not built to keep a determined person or a fire out but it keeps me legal. Total cost was $320.
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u/donzi39vrz 22d ago
"poors" while having over $5k of guns and likely half that in ammo lol
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u/NoCaterpillar997 22d ago
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u/iHaVocxT 22d ago
Doesn't the ammo need to be separate? Or is it okay because they are both locked up?
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u/Agent_1812 https://youtu.be/mrAwb9ptu9U 22d ago
https://laws-lois.justice.gc.ca/eng/regulations/sor-98-209/page-1.html#h-1019943
queue debate over "it cannot readily be broken open or into; and
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition"
I would say that ammo needs to be locked up better
But it looks like all the guns have locks on them
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u/cattabliss bc 22d ago
the GRC do not care if you store it in the same locked container as your guns
if I remmber my reading, "readily accessible" caselaw has often meant just not touching the gun
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u/Agent_1812 https://youtu.be/mrAwb9ptu9U 22d ago
...if MDF qualifies as cannot readily be broken open or into in court
I have a magazine in my safe next to my CZ Shadow, usually touching but not in the gun, but it's a safe.
And never ever take the word of a police officer over the actual law
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u/chillyrabbit 22d ago
Assuming (a) and (b) are true.
The (c) clause is weirdly complex as it explains two scenarios in one sentence
5 (1) An individual may store a non-restricted firearm only if
(a) it is unloaded;
(b) it is
(i) rendered inoperable by means of a secure locking device,
(ii) rendered inoperable by the removal of the bolt or bolt-carrier, or
(iii) stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into; and
(c)it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.
Scenario one: The non-restricted firearm must not be readily accessible to ammunition. Except if the ammunition is stored together with the firearm in a container that is locked and can't be broken into. Which is okay if you followed 5(1)(b)(iii)
(c) it is not readily accessible to ammunition, unless the ammunition is stored, together with or separately from the firearm, in a container or receptacle that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into.
Scenario two: The non-restricted firearm must not be readily accessible to ammunition. Except if the ammunition is stored separately from the firearm in a container that is locked and can't be broken into
Basically the only illegal way to store a non-restricted firearm with ammo, is if you trigger lock the firearm (i), or remove the bolt (ii) and leave ammo next or "readily accessible" to the firearm.
Locking a firearm up in a container satisfies clause (c) entirely, except for the explosives act which basically states you can't leave ammo lying around willy nilly.
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u/TitusImmortalis 22d ago
If ammo is kept in an ammo box (try to be as non-descript as possible) with a lock on it, that'll likely suffice if it's in the same storage area as the firearms.
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u/Outrageous_Order_197 22d ago
With the amount of money you have spent here, you should consider getting a fireproof humidity controlled safe to protect your investment.
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u/jollygreengiant1655 22d ago
A humidity controlled fire proof safe big enough to hold that many guns and ammo will cost more than that entire collection.
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u/Outrageous_Order_197 22d ago
Nah costco had them for around 2k
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u/jollygreengiant1655 22d ago
Link?
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u/Outrageous_Order_197 22d ago
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u/Ok_Competition6823 21d ago
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u/jollygreengiant1655 21d ago
Is that safe fully fireproof? Is it humidity controlled?
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u/Sillyak 22d ago
So this is how guns get "safe kisses" 😆
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u/epnk420 22d ago
Yeah that was my first thoughts I’ve had the same issue with my 18 gun cabinet that holds nowhere near that many without damaging others lol
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u/Iokua_CDN 22d ago
I'm feeling glad, I gave a 12 gun safe, and it's actually likely going to fit 12 or even more!!!
My advice and what seems to be helping?
Scoped rifles are the biggest issue, I've heard about alternating barrel up and barrel down. Or alternate scope gun and a non scoped gun.
Otherwise, I've noticed the scopes force the gun at a wider angle with the normal slots, but if you can put in slots that stick out more, they hold the guns more vertical and can accommodate the scopes better. That's what I'm planning on doing to make mine even a little bit better.
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u/epnk420 22d ago edited 21d ago
Yeah mine only has a few slots for scoped and some of my bolts/lever are too short for the other slots so they tend to lean into each other it’s a headache so next up gun room lol realistically more like reinforced gun closet I ain’t rich hahahaha
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u/Iokua_CDN 22d ago
I feel ya! Like I'm thinking next I might hang some bolt actions above the Safe, and just keeping the bolts in the safe. That's enough to open up the Safe a bit.
You ever look into those velcro plastic rods? Like the velcro goes on top of the Safe and then the plastic Rods velcro down from there into the gun barrels. Then the long and the short ones all stay in place. I'm considering trying some of them
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u/Current_Direction595 5d ago
For your shorter barrel rifles, go to any hardware store and buy wooden dowling that fits loosely inside the barrel, cut to a length that will help support it. In the slots. No more leaning and it won't damage your barrels.
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u/Traditional_Bus2955 21d ago
I view my guns more as tools to be used. So a few scuffs or scratches gives them character and makes em mine 😂
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u/DougMacRay617 22d ago
Non of them look utterly expensive or ultra collectable so it doesn't really matter.
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u/Traditional_Bus2955 22d ago
Well my Winchester M1 Garand in the back says otherwise so I’ll be putting them into some gun socks ASAP. Just finished the build last night.
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u/Mitt_Rom57 22d ago
What kinda SKS’s you got in there ?
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u/Traditional_Bus2955 22d ago
One Tula Russian, one blade style Chinese and a French Tickler in a Fab Defence stock.
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u/Banana_war 22d ago
Very nice. The only downside is that you might need another one soon for your upcoming acquisitions 😁
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u/Iron-Iceman sk 21d ago
I would recommend gun socks. Range of benefits including bump, scratch protection and protection from the elements.
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u/SadisticChipmunk 22d ago
What's the lining you're using in there. I'd like to add it to my safe.
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u/Traditional_Bus2955 22d ago
It’s just some cheap carpet I picked up from Canadian Tire and used Spray Adhesive to stick to the sides.
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u/SadisticChipmunk 22d ago
thanks!
I feel kind of retarded for not thinking of something so simple... I could have saved some marring had I done so.
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u/Spyrothedragon9972 22d ago
I wanna see the rifle with the hellfire match on it.
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u/Traditional_Bus2955 22d ago
It’s a Tikka T3X in a GRS Bifrost stock. I’m looking to switch it out to a Whiskey 3 stock soon here.
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u/Strong-Owl-55 22d ago
Idk if it would work but amazon has some foam gun divider works awesome I have the sale set up pretty much
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u/GinnAdvent 22d ago
For an apartment, I think that's pretty good set up.
If I have a house myself, I would definitely have better set up, but only if I can sensibly install them, lol
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u/Traditional_Bus2955 22d ago
For sure! I only went this route due to being in an apartment and having a huge safe is not really feasible right now.
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u/GinnAdvent 22d ago
Lol, exactly. I have over 80 firearms, if I am doing by everyone standard, I might as well convert my whole apartment unit into an armory.
For now, 6 Yukon gun cabinets will do.
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u/JumpinJacker081 22d ago
Im pretty sure your front door being locked keeps you legal, not to late to take this down, scribble out a few spots in the pic and add your feet
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u/Previous_Search3122 21d ago
Need your stuff to be safe in the event of a fire?
No, I want the exact opposite of that.
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u/TheBulletBuddy 20d ago
How do you like that homesteader? Im very on the fence about getting one.
It seems a bit fud-ish to me, but a semi for a grand with cheap ammo seems really appealing haha.
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u/imjonjoncanada 20d ago
Mine’s that messy, but not quite as full. I think anyone getting upset with the “for the poors” comment is counting, not inspecting. I know what you’re saying, but nice safe, nice collection…and until we’re rich, I’ll always take one decent gun in every shape and calibre over a few $5k-$50k collector’s pieces. Levelling up one by one is what getting old is for. Last thing, putting all of your eggs in one basket with this government is a terrible idea anyway. You’re doing it right IMHO 💪🏼
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u/SpinachStunning5547 22d ago
Really nice but you might want to check the legality of it. Law about this are a grey area as usual but I am not sure this qualifies as "cannot easily be broken into". Here id the law: "stored in a container, receptacle or room that is kept securely locked and that is constructed so that it cannot readily be broken open or into;"
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u/Scary-Detail-3206 22d ago
Ya that exposed padlock might be pushing the envelope. The cheap gun cabinets are considered legal, but they have an integral locking mechanism. I wouldn’t want to have to argue this one in court
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u/DoYouGetSarcasm 22d ago
Exposed padlock is good enough for a safe. It was argued in court in R v barnes (2011 Ontario) which laid out that a school locker locked with a pad lock is a safe for gun laws.
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u/SpinachStunning5547 22d ago
Yeah padlock was not really the problem here. The whole construction is. You push that thing on its side and it would probably explode in pieces. Imo it is pushing the limit of what is legal. But still looks nice.
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u/NeruLight 21d ago
You can display non restricted firearms on the wall of your home with a gun lock (and no ammo displayed alongside). These people humming along to “that doesn’t look legal” are an absolute -gas-
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u/Traditional_Bus2955 22d ago
This one also has a keyed lock that comes built into the cabinet. I just put the padlock on in addition so at least it has two locking mechanisms.
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u/scottsuplol 22d ago
I can’t imagine investing thousands in firearms and not taking the time to get a quality safe. I couldn’t sit peacefully knowing they weren’t as secured
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u/Conscious_Bid_8762 21d ago
With cordless tools none of the gun cabinets and most of the safes are secure. Hate to say it but someone wants into your safe with a couple hundred bucks of tools they are in.
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u/epnk420 22d ago edited 22d ago
I dunno what cabinet prices are now but $320 might’ve got you something obviously not safe or vault quality but we got an 18 gun one cheapish and the oldest (26) got an 8 for like $100 might’ve been too long ago now since everything gun related costs an arm, leg and first born child now lol. I’d be worried stacking them all that close together, it will damage rifles pulling them in and out (I dented my wooden stock Henry 22, so I know and you have more then I do). I commend your efforts though, it also looks inconspicuous lol.
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u/woody_dub 22d ago
This isn't the flex you think it is
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u/OCTS-Toronto 22d ago
Top and bottom shelf are organized. Gun collection has decent models of all types -- storage is a bit packed but lighting is really good. Safely stores his whole collection.
Good for OP. The safe is a good work.
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u/Master-Editor2668 22d ago
That’s retarded Not even three locking points definitely easy to break into. Do better!





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u/Drasselll 22d ago
"for the poor"
Has more guns that the average Canadian gun owner.