r/canadaguns Jun 24 '26

Fix my gun Rifle Jumping.

So I am not new to shooting but have yet to experience this. And yes i k ow I sound dumb but I gotta ask.

When i am running my Ruger American Ranch, I find that the rifle "hops" after each shot. I am holding tight as I do with any other rifle. Admittedly this is my first "short " rifle. Could it be caused by the muzzle blast? Its 6.5 Creedmoor if that helps. It really not causing any issue with accuracy but is killing my follow through.

If i put it in my BOG tripod it is nearly non existent, which is why I feel it may be muzzle blast coming off the shooting table at the range.

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u/BisonCompetitive9610 Jun 24 '26

Guns do that. You can get a muzzle break for the 6.5 that will help with follow up shots. Note that not all breaks are built the same. There's enough research on YouTube that will show you what kind of performance to expect. 

I have a Ruger american predator in 6.5 and it's a very lightweight rifle. I put it into another chassis that added weight and stability. I will be adding a break myself at some point - likely one of the MDTs

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u/justforlul Jun 24 '26

I have the MDT comp brake, hellfire match would have been my second choice because I’m a fan girl for MDT

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u/BisonCompetitive9610 Jun 24 '26

Me too, went with an MDT chassis chef's kiss

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u/DougMacRay617 Jun 24 '26

Lmfao @ "muzzle blast coming off the table"

Its called recoil broski

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u/therowdyirishman Jun 24 '26 edited Jun 24 '26

PRS rifles are HEAVY. This is one of the main reasons. Also heavier = harder to shift off target during trigger pull when shooting from a less than ideal position.

Option 1- You can increase the weight of your rifle without purchasing a chassis, fancy weights, heavy barrel, etc. if desired. Most polymer stocks are hollow and can be filled with lead shot, sand, etc. A heavier rifle will reduce felt recoil, making it more feasible to spot your own impacts and/or "stay in the scope" during recoil. Keep in mind this is only wise for a range rifle, you don't want to be lugging a lead filled rig out to your hunting blind.

Option 2 - A muzze brake, look for options with some of the ports facing upwards to reduce muzzle climb.

Option 3 - A quality bipod and proper technique of "preloading" the bipod. Best used in combination with a rear shooting bag. Paying attention to your shooting posture and natural point of aim will help reduce how much the rifle pushes you around.

Option 4 - Continue shooting from the tripod, a lower/seated position with some weight hung from the center line of the tripod should help soak up even more recoil.

Edit: your speculation that the muzzle blast off the table vs open air of the tripod is incorrect. It's either because your standing behind the tripod and your full weight absorbs more recoil vs being seated at a bench... And/or bc you've actually got it clamped in the tripod which will obviously reduce movement during recoil.

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u/h3IIfir3pho3nix N E R F G U N S Jun 24 '26

New shooter discovers recoil lol. In all seriousness, this is just recoil and this is the reason PRS shooters spend thousands of dollars on their rigs.

When you're shooting from your tripod, you're locking thr gun in place, which is going to drastically minimize movement. When shooting off a bench, the rifle can move more.

You've got yourself at a bit of a disadvantage because you have a lightweight hunting/sporting rifle, so there's not a ton of modification you can do to it. The most noticeable change would be to add a muzzle break, that should cut down on a huge chunk of recoil and make for easier follow-through.

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u/DecentComposer545 Jun 24 '26

Honestly i know my set up is not a PRS rig. I am hitting within an apple sized grouping at 300m which I am happy with. 96% of that is i am messing with ammo, the rifle is new and has zero wear in yet, i am still getting used to how everything works.

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u/Whispersfine Jun 24 '26

Gun flops only affect follow up shots. If you aren’t shooting rapidly, it’s no big deal.

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u/SonOfJaak Jun 24 '26

You do have a sling on the rifle, right? And you are using the sling to stabilize the rifle, right?

Right?

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u/DecentComposer545 Jun 24 '26

Yes. I even know how to use it. Lol

Honestly this is the most jumpy rifle I have ever fired.

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u/DoYouGetSarcasm Jun 24 '26

What other rifles/cartridges have you fired?

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u/DecentComposer545 Jun 24 '26

5.56 7.62x39 .308 .22lr

I do know that rifles jump and you need to hold them inna certain way. This one just seems to have "extra jump"

Honestly it could be my form as I have no experience shooting from a bench. All I have done before this is unsupported in Standing, Sitting, and prone.

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u/DoYouGetSarcasm Jun 24 '26

If the 308 was a long ish barrel with a medium or heavy contour (or a semi auto or heavy, or a bulpup) then it definitely makes sense that this somewhat lite 6.5 (with a short lite barrel, so less weight up front) jumps more. The others are much lighter cartridges with little to no jump..

Sitting upright and standing allow your body to sway, which should show you less jump. Id expect prove and hunched over a bench to be similarly rigid.

The main thing I'd say for follow through is didn't fight the recoil/jump. Just be solid. Fighting it and trying to push back is a way to develop a flinch and need up your accuracy. If possible mix a snap cap into your magazine when your not expecting it and see if you subconsciously move when you pull the trigger expecting the rifle to fire.

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u/PizzaExisting9878 Jun 24 '26

You could bed the stock, would help

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u/FD4L Jun 24 '26

A .muzzle will jump and rise on just about any rifle, even a 10/22 will experience it to some degree.

A few devices can help; a vertical foregrip can help you keep downward tension on the front of the rifle, but it may be tough to mount on a traditional rifle stock and it'll look goofy but its a choice you can make for your own rifle.

A muzzle device; a muzzle brake can reduce the recoil of the rifle, and in turn, potentially reduce the jump, but a properly ported and aligned compensator is designed to vent gasses upward to push the muzzle down when its discharged.