r/canadaguns • u/Business_Working_703 • Jun 22 '26

News / Politics / Activism Sks in shooting

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I hope it doesn't lead to an sks ban

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u/Complete_Ad_1896 Jun 22 '26

You have no clue what you are talking about.

Training helps but it wont turn you into a terminator with no emotions.

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u/rastamasta45 Jun 22 '26

At what point are we allowed to talk about things, I was in the army, we trained on dealing with threats, target identification and most importantly PIT (Positively identify target). Training doesn’t make you a terminator but it provides a muscle memory on rapid responses and making sure you don’t commit the ultimate mistake….killing a civilian.

No cop will ever ever say “it’s okay if it get bad and you accidentally pop someone” no the they make it very clear. You shoot a civvie, you will be charged with murder. Your bullet, your responsibility. How do we prevent this, train so you don’t panic when it happens.

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u/jeff_gzh2003 Jun 22 '26

You’re not the one under fire btw. Must be easy for you to sit in the comfort of your chair and talk about what she should have done. But in her shoes she was unable to see the shooter and she saw someone when she turned around, if she waited and double check she would have been killed just like the first one.

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u/rastamasta45 Jun 22 '26

Again I received military training, they shot at us with training bullets and one time by accident with real bullets (hell of a moment that was).

The purpose of training is that when shit gets real, we know how to act and not make the ultimate mistake. You can’t say to people “well you never got shot at so don’t speak” because in training we can’t actually shoot at each other, so all you can do is train and train and train until it finally happens (which we often pray it never does). This officer failed her training and should be charged accordingly.

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u/jeff_gzh2003 Jun 23 '26

Received “military training” doesn’t mean a thing. My time in the Canadian army taught me that 80% of the troops aren’t trustworthy with a firearm even after “training”, and don’t even get me started on how effective these training is with them blanks. Half of the troops can’t even shoot straight in their PWT1. I’m not saying she should have shot that dude, but given the circumstances it was a mistake, but training won’t let you overcome your fear of knowing you might die if you don’t kill the shooter first.

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u/rastamasta45 Jun 23 '26

Then you of all people should know, no such thing as a mistake, only negligence. This negligence cost a life

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u/jeff_gzh2003 Jun 23 '26

Sure. You’re only saying this because it was the civi that got shot, if the shooter snuck up on her like the civi and she waited because of her “training”, then she would have been dead. And let me guess, if that were the case, you again would be out there saying “training would help her to shoot on the instinct and she would still be alive”. How your military training would help.

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u/rastamasta45 Jun 23 '26

I have no idea what point you’re making and what you just said was insane dude, you don’t kill someone’s because they snuck up on you, doesn’t matter the circumstances. Killing an unarmed civilian in an active shooter scenario is the opposite of they are supposed to do. I hope she is charged accordingly

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u/jeff_gzh2003 Jun 23 '26

If the world is just full of flawless machines like you then no one would be making mistakes. Go ask your troops in the unit who actually have experience overseas and hear just how many blue on blue incidents there were. I’ve been personally shot by my own section with blanks because I decided to flank around without telling them, and when I popped out of the tree line 3 of them shot at me. I was pre BMQ so I was clueless. But even then I blamed myself for walking in front of my section and not them shooting at me before seeing who it was. Call me insane all you want but let’s see if she’s charged and she’d be sentenced.

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u/Complete_Ad_1896 Jun 24 '26

She will likely be charged as I believe that is procedure in officer involved shootings; however, I doubt she would actually get convicted.

Its an accountability thing to show people that they arent avoiding charging the officer for no reason. Even when they know the officer has a defence and a jury would likely not find them guilty.