r/canadaguns • u/567432Gains • Jun 03 '26

Gun and gear reviews Taylor arms 9mm TC73

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Anyone have any experience with it? Came across my Facebook feed and my only negative feeling is that it’s not a DBM (or semi auto but that’s another issue) but it’s still a cool concept.

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u/tghost474 Jun 03 '26

So Karl at inrangeTV did a review on the gun and there were a lot of bad things to say about it from the quality to fit and finish. I included a link down below. Personally I was interested till I saw the video personally you’re probably better off getting a 357/38 lever gun instead.

https://youtu.be/si80mxA5dHM?si=RlrJSN765pQpX3mn

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u/mwmwmwmwmmdw Jun 03 '26

i was also very interested in these until i saw the review.

ill just wait a bit longer until the turks come out with theirs for 1/4 the price and similar "reliability"

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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down Jun 04 '26

Honestly, the whole "this 9mm levergun sucks because it's the laziest possible conversion" is the entire reason there are basically no 9mm leverguns in the first place. This is the "fuck you, here's your gun in worse .357 Magnum, happy now?" of the gun world.

Manufacturers are content to sell you designs that haven't been revised since 1873 (or 1894) because you wanted something that looks like a cowboy gun, not because it's actually any good. And this thing is, clearly, the absolute minimum they could have done. Probably took the elevator dimensions straight off a .38 Short Colt conversion kit, too.

And it's not even like you can't make a good modern levergun. The Supreme is proof-positive of that. So's the Tombstone, to a lesser degree, even though it's literally just an 1873 action with a box magazine in place of the elevator mechanism.

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u/Murray3-Dvideos Jun 04 '26

It was a smart conversion base, but like you said, they just failed at properly designing the elevator and mag tube.

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u/HappyCan7250 Jun 04 '26

The only benefit is 9mm is dirt cheap vs 357. Even 357 runs about 0.70/rd at its cheapest (if you don't reload), vs 9mm at about 0.35/rd. It costs me I think around 0.40/rd to reload for 357 with the cheapest stuff around. 9mm lever gun certainly has an appeal, I'm surprised Henry and Marlin haven't made any yet. 

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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down Jun 04 '26

I'm surprised Henry and Marlin haven't made any yet

Henry already has a 9mm "levergun". It's called the Homesteader. Legally speaking, if you can't buy a Homesteader, you can't buy a levergun either. So they won't be making a levergun because that would be pointless.

Marlin has a 10mm levergun, which I'm actually surprised they bothered to make, but since leverguns are meme guns to begin with it makes sense to chamber them in meme calibers. The 9mm "levergun" Ruger/Marlin make is called the PC Carbine. Legally speaking, same as the Homesteader (except in Canada, but we're not a large enough market to matter).

It costs me I think around 0.40/rd to reload for 357 with the cheapest stuff around.

It costs you the same amount to load for 9mm too. If you're loading the more powerful varieties of .357 then sure, it's slightly pricier, but nothing's forcing you to do that.

That's the whole problem with 9mm leverguns, actually: people who shoot enough that caring about ammunition costs is meaningful aren't going to buy this because the revolver chambering is far more flexible and 9mm is not any cheaper to load, and people who will only put 1000 rounds through the gun should buy it in .357 anyway because the cost of the base rifle in .357 + 2000 rounds of .357 = cost of the base rifle in 9mm + 1000 rounds of 9mm.

10mm is the rimless equivalent of this, which is why Marlin only offers their gun in this caliber, and why it not shooting .40 S&W is not that big a deal. Bonus points because 10mm is basically just smokeless .44-40, which is arguably the bare minimum centerfire cartridge for hunting.

Taylor didn't take the assignment seriously, obviously. But they weren't going to sell anyway so it's probably OK for them to phone it in.

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u/chillyrabbit Jun 03 '26

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=si80mxA5dHM

Inrangetv made a review of it, he was not very impressed with the rifle.

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u/Halfbloodjap Jun 03 '26

That's an understatement, I'd say he's legitimately upset at the poor quality fit and finish. Rightly so too, it's bad to the point of being dangerous

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u/chillyrabbit Jun 03 '26

Can you explain why?

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u/Q-Ball7 In the end, it's taxes all the way down Jun 04 '26

It's because he's a progressive, who is completely unaware that liberalism and progressivism are not the same thing.

He should know better, especially considering he styles himself as an iconoclast. Satanists are "the Man" now.

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u/Zlatanski Jun 04 '26

Because he believes in 2A for All? Because he doesn't gloss over the massacres and horrors inflicted by the US government or the settlers? News flash - every guntuber injects their politics into their work. Classic Firearms had Vivek Ramaswamy on their coverage of shot show, hickock45 had Tucker Carlson in his videos, but those are A-OK, not political. Half of the guntubers out there make "attack helicopter"-esque jokes on the regular.

Seems that it only ever happens to be "political" when its someone espousing anything supportive of minorities

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u/Zlatanski Jun 04 '26

Ah yes, the enlightened centrist, so above politics. I bow to your wisdom, and shall proceed to self-flagellate until I achieve that same level of being. Namaste

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u/rangedehinc Jun 04 '26

He is literally a cuck.  Opinion discarded. 

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u/picatdim Jun 03 '26

How come? All I know about him is that he used to work with Ian from Forgotten Weapons.

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u/Flat-Dark-Earth Big Bore Specialist Jun 04 '26

There's also a pump action 9mm black rifle coming soon, and it's NR.

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u/GreenMan165 Jun 04 '26

Also of note on this besides the Karl review, it doesn't seem his is an isolated case, on the r/leverguns subreddit I've seen some similar horror stories prior to his video release. They seem like a pretty lazily made gun all around which is too bad, they definitely have some novelty.

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u/Slowjuke Jun 06 '26

Just buy a citadel arms 92 lever in 357/38 special

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u/swhissell Jun 03 '26

No experience with it but I think it’s probably great. From what I understand Uberti makes “to spec” reproductions but then companies like Taylors & Cimarron commission products from them but smooth everything out. Fwiw I’ve owned Ubertis and they never had issues.

I’m always a bit worried about rimless cartridges in firearms not originally designed for them, but it is 2026 so I’m sure they’ve worked out any kinks.

Keep your chamber clean and I bet it will function flawlessly, probably holds a good amount in the magazine too. Btw, 1873 pattern rifles are super cool, like an OG ar with a dust cover and everything!

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u/Relevant_Diver_3228 Jun 03 '26

It is expensive but it is going to be better than the dypa 9mm pump in terms of fit and finish 

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u/Halfbloodjap Jun 03 '26

I'd reconsider that idea, check the InRangeTV video on it and the problems he had

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u/Relevant_Diver_3228 Jun 03 '26

I was wrong lol  I have held the derya before and it was very wiggly and did not feel like it would last for a long time but i guess this is worse 

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u/Iokua_CDN Jun 03 '26

Right?? I have a feeling cheapo Turkish pump might end up being the far superior gun

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u/TheBulletBuddy Jun 03 '26

honestly, ive been impressed with my TM22 pro so im tempted to give the pump action a try, i mean its Turk, so its a gamble either way, but the TM22 has treated me well for 2.5k rounds so far, hopefully this will similar.

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u/Iokua_CDN Jun 03 '26

I feel I hear good things about derya, and not too much negative. So I'll probably give them a roll if the dice too