r/canadaguns • u/AutoModerator • May 11 '26

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u/Natural_Comparison21 May 18 '26

It’s funny as the wind out of the sails can be very easily brought back by saying “How much double downing on the carbon tax did JT did that Carney just ended?”

Yea to add more nuance to what I said above you are right. They are in a strange contradictory plain of existence.

Maybe but it really depends how the media spins it. That’s one thing I have noticed.

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u/WeightedDips95 May 18 '26

I dont even try anymore. In my experience, if people are publicly defending Liberal policy, its already too late for them. I even have tried with a couple friends/ family. It always ends the same. They agree to your logic after 30 minutes of breaking it down, and then the next time you guys talk about something its like you never had the conversation. Youre going up against 10-20-30 years, even 40 for boomers of constant indoctrination. Youd drive yourself mad trying to go against that.

Even my own mother, who is depressed because all her children had to move 1000s of kms away from our birthplace because its unaffordable, still not able to break the LPC spell no matter how hard I try. And its funny cause she complains about tons of stuff that has become so blatantly ridiculous and she acknowledges the LPC caused it, but she still thinks the CPC are the antichrist or something.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 May 18 '26

As the saying goes. I don’t debate for the person I am debating I debate for the people who are watching and listening. I have been able to convince some people but not that many I admit. Generally what I do now is try to get people who want to become PAL holders help them to get there pals. As the way I see it the more PAL holders the better.

See that is painful to me and the most boomer minded thing “Okay so you know the liberals are bad but you think the conservatives are worse… Have you tried voting for anybody else then?” Which so many times I hear the argument “You are throwing your vote away by doing that.” But if you hate both parties then I would say it’s not throwing your vote away as if I could only pick between two parties I wouldn’t even vote. If I did it would be a spoiled ballet.

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u/WeightedDips95 May 19 '26

I think I kinda get what youre saying but youre validating a deluded and destructive worldview that the LPC is like the imperfect good and the CPC is the antichrist. This belief is what has taken Canada into the abyss.

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u/Natural_Comparison21 May 19 '26

Sure but if someone is calling one party the anti christ good luck getting them to vote for that party.

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u/WeightedDips95 May 19 '26

Well if everyone around them indulges their ignorance than no wonder they believe it. In any case, CPC is literally the only sane option with a chance of winning. Its not like convincing them to vote NDP is a win, unless youre being sneaky and want them to split the vote.