r/canadaguns Apr 19 '26

News / Politics / Activism Canadian veteran sues U.S. gunmaker over career-ending injury

https://www.cbc.ca/player/play/video/9.7169145
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u/matthew_py Apr 19 '26

P320 gonna p320. This is a well known issue, the fact they haven't been pulled from service is shocking

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u/DougMacRay617 Apr 19 '26

Typical of this gov tbh

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u/IcySkyDream Apr 19 '26

They were waiting for the US to make a decision so they could copy them and save the T&E expenses.

Too bad the US procurement process is corrupt, and now the service member is permanently disabled.

The P320 and the decisions that shaped its design are a disgrace to Sig and an embarrassment to Canada for having adopted this POS.

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u/RagTagPig Apr 20 '26

So it actually depends on the P320, the issue with the going off comes from differences in parts tolerances primarily with parts sourced from Indian factories as I understand it. The CAF ones have no such parts and are thus not prone to the issue but people think P320 = P320. The issue with this case specifically is the member in question used an unapproved custom holster for the P320 that allows their finger to be in the trigger guard while holstered. I doubt they will win the case as the gun would’ve been inspected by a qualified technician and any gun issue would’ve been flagged.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

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u/RagTagPig Apr 20 '26

None of what you said changes the fact a qualified technician inspected the pistol and found no mechanical faults or reasons for it to just discharge and ruled it a user error. The issue with the sig is 100% due to the trigger bar and striker not being machined correct to tolerances due to poor quality control that doesn’t affect the C22. See Hilton Hicks report.

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

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u/RagTagPig Apr 20 '26

If you don’t trust a Weapons Technician trained on the C22 platform with the sig technical books idk what to tell ya 🤷🏼‍♂️ time will tell what happens with the law suit but I bet it gets tossed

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u/Specialist_Chard5231 Apr 20 '26

A qualified tech looked at my p320 before it blew up. I know of 4 people who have blown up handguns. All were p320s.

Ever occur to you that the qualified tech doesn't know what to look for? Just like the mechanic that could not diagnose my car?

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u/[deleted] Apr 20 '26 edited Aug 11 '26

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u/RagTagPig Apr 20 '26

Any source for that? Tried to google it but can’t find anything at all about Sig Bribery except a Reddit post from a meme subreddit which I wouldn’t take as gospel at all.

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u/MotleyBrew-275 Apr 20 '26

Do you have evidence that they have a proven defect or are you just being hysterical because you don't understand how firearms work?

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u/matthew_py Apr 20 '26

Do you have evidence that they have a proven defect

Yes the coverage has been quite extensive? Here's just 1 article about the ongoing lawsuits

https://www.police1.com/firearms/n-j-sues-sig-sauer-for-the-recall-of-p320-handguns-alleging-unintentional-discharges

Theres also plenty of videos of it happening, here's 2

https://youtube.com/shorts/Ig8OIQU7-l0?si=qSZG-ohrZTYbG4D6 https://youtu.be/OSAI_HUZDI0?si=aIw2SVEsqAUWVHNr

are you just being hysterical because you don't understand how firearms work?

I literally hold a PAL and collect firearms lmao

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u/MotleyBrew-275 Apr 20 '26

I'm aware of the lawsuits and videos but I'm not aware of ANYONE describing and replicating the uncommanded discharges. Boggles the mind why this is so hard to nail down under lab conditions...

This whole thing is deeply fascinating. 

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u/MrLucky13 Apr 20 '26

Long video but he's able to get it to go off repeatedly.

https://youtu.be/jOMQOtOQoPk?si=0VGUzLD7fW9g9-jY

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u/madblackhater Apr 21 '26

Still waiting to see it happen with a slide that isn't completely worn out...

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u/CorsicanMastiffStrip Apr 20 '26

CAF already knows it’s a problem and have issued “do not carry chambered” policies in response. It’s a settled issue that the P320 is the exception to the “guns don’t kill people” adage.